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MSNBCW Katy July 4, 2024

Official who joins me in just a moment says theres no need to hyperventilate. Put down the paper bag says jen psaki. Shes here with us. First, lets get to our reporters with what the president is expected to talk about tonight and how democrats and republicans will react. Joining us now, nbc news correspondent garrett haake, and chief White House Correspondent and political analyst, peter baker. Peter, bring us into the planning from the white houses perspective. What should we expect . I think youre going to hear the president talk about a few things. First of all, hes going to talk about his accomplishments. Hes going to try to remind the country of how things were when they were in the country when he took other the period, in the middle of the covid pandemic, lockdowns, social unrest in the streets. There was of course the January 6th Attack On Congress and the economy was in free fall. I think hes going to try to remind people how things have gotten better over the years, and take as much credit as he can. Hes going to talk about reproductive rights, freedom, hes going to expand on the issue of abortion to say not just abortion but other rights like ivf and possibly samesex marriage and gay rights are at stake in the election. Hes going it talk about of course democracy and what he sees as the stakes of the election, former President Trump threatening to come back in many ways, mr. Bidens view, threatened the enormous and traditions of an American Democratic system. This morning, Speaker Mike Johnson spoke to cbs, and he talked about his expectation, what he wants to hear or what he thinks he should be hearing from President Biden. Lets play some of that. This president is projecting weakness on the world stage. When President Trump projected strength. From the reagan years, we maintain peace through strength, were doing the opposite, and its dangerous. We have to take care of our priorities first, and take care of securing our own border. If you dont have a border, you dont have sovereignty, security. Were actively looking at the options on all of that, the supplemental that you hear so much about, the supplemental funding. This is Speaker Mike Johnson trying to come out and say, the reason im not passing aid to ukraine or israel is because of immigration, even though there was an Immigration Bill that was out there that he didnt bring to the floor. Garrett, talk to me more about how this is going to play with republicans. Over the last several years, we have seen the State Of The Union morph into something more analogous to question time than the House Of Commons in the uk. The people who were supposed to be sitting there listening, would be more participatory in nature. If and when President Biden brings up the border or Border Security bill that republicans asked for, only to tank at the behest of donald trump. That seems like the kind of thing almost guaranteed to bait House Republicans into a response. Which johnson we have been able to report has told his members not to engage in. Theres not a lot of love lost between the Congressional Republican conference and President Biden, and i do expect this to have perhaps more of a conversation tonight than were traditionally used to seeing, and it might be in the best political interest of those republicans who might be better served to let the president say his piece and use it again him later. Prime minister question time is more interesting. Both sides have to get up and debate each other. Youre the Foreign Correspondent, katy. Ill leave that to you. I wish that we had a version of that here. I think it would be really ill elucidating. Going forward, theres a feeling he has to adjust for his polling right now. Which is not so great. The americans dont believe the economy is doing as well as it is. Does the white house believe that the president can make a difference on nights like tonight. Its one speech, obviously, and nobody should attach too much importance to a single speech. Its the Largest Television all of a sudden audience hes going to have all year. The State Of The Union is when people check in. Its his chance to reset the expectations and the understanding and basically the fact set. Youre right about the frustration that the president hasnt gotten more credit for an economy with almost record low unemployment, strong job growth, you know, record stock markets, wages on the rise, and so forth. Inflation obviously remains an albatross for this president. It has come down to about 3 . Lower than it was, unfortunately for him. Prices havent come down, and a lot of people are still trying to pay at the Grocery Store larger bills. Hes going to try to take credit for that. Hes going to try to begin a month of campaigning. I think youll see him get out on the road, philadelphia tomorrow, atlanta on saturday. Cabinet is going out on the road, his vice president. In a way its really the starting gun of the 2024 General Election contest just two days after trump sealed the republican nomination. Peter baker, garrett haake, gentlemen, thank you very much. Joining us former White House Press secretary and host of msnbcs inside with jen psaki, i want to go inside your head. The title of your show is perfect, especially for today. You tweeted people should put down the paper bag, dont hyperventilate. There are a lot of people worried about the outlook of the coming election. Democrats are worried. Why are you not one of them . Everybody should be a little worried. The polls are not good for the president , the white house. There are also some things that are challenging for President Trump, former President Trump. Good lord. Former President Trump. That i think people dont talk about or focus on enough. Right now, one, if you look at the results from tuesday, 2 3, a third of voters in virginia and north carolina, two important states coming up in november said they would not vote for trump. Will they vote for trump in november . Got to do some work in bringing together even his own party. Thats one. Two is he has a huge money problem. Hes way behind on cash in hand. Hes Spending Money on paying for his lawyers. The biden team and the dnc has a huge money advantage. They also have an operational advantage because they have been working with state parties. The state party system for the Republican Party is in complete disarray. Just look at michigan. I tweeted that because i think theres a lot of paper bag breathing. Some of that is healthy. Democrats should be breathing in a paper bag a little bit for sure. There are operational things. You need money. You need an operation to run a campaign, and he has work to do bringing his party together. Its a much more professional campaign than 2016. The outreach, the effort, the organization on the ground looks a whole lot different. In 2016, they relied on donald trump being out there and getting his message across to the American Public either through the Campaign Rallies that were covered nonstop. I understand theres a lot of anger about that. We dont have to have a therapy session about that right now, and also directly through social media. Hes not using twitter any longer. These are two men the American Public knows. How much does money matter. Money does matter because money helps you organize and it helps you operationalize your message. For joe biden, the fact that he has a ton of money. What has happened since 2016, a lot of things obviously but an insurrection has happened. Is that still on top of peoples minds. I know it is for a good portion of the population. Time does make things hazy. Protecting democracy son peoples minds. If you look back, i read a bunch of old state of the Union Speeches so no one else had to, i suppose, but if you look at how the president ended the speech last year, i expect it to be something similar. Basically, were at an inflection point. It wasnt an attack. It didnt name trump. I dont think hes going to name trump tonight, its not his style. Who we are as a country, the fundamentals, the systems we want to protect. People do believe in that. Im surprised by how much it moves people in elections but that has happened over and over again. I dont think that should be urn valued. President bidens performance, his delivery, the way he gives this speech, are you looking at that . Yes, i love that youre almost whispering. Everybody should be looking at his performance. Look, i think going into tonight, theres a couple of things you look at if youre sitting in the white house and you cant control all of them, including performance. You want to tell a story. President biden loves a listical, he is also a good story teller. The performance, everything from how he walks down the aisle. Were all going to be watching and talking about who he shakes hands with, is he energetic, how is he walking, how does he interact with mike johnson, everyone, right . But its also does he have stamina, and does he have a strong ending to the speech. Do people feel it is an energetic delivery. This is always a thing. Anyone who tells you differently is not being honest. Going forward, tradition is that the nominee of the party gets an intelligence briefing. The nominee thats running for president. Donald trump got his intelligence access revoked after he left office. He was seen as a security threat. Donald trump is going to be the nominee, and there are plans to once again start those intelligence briefings, again. Heres what john bolton said about it on another network. I would not give him access to classified materials. No other candidate has been under indictment for allowing classified information to be compromised and given the pend si of that indictment alone, i wouldnt give him the briefings. This is his former National Security adviser saying that. I mean. So why is he getting these briefings . Is there a reason to forego tradition in this circumstance . I think there should be, here we are in 2024, what ambassador bolton said makes a whole lot of sense. I have had him on my show a lot of times too. That makes a ton of sense. Theres a traditionalness. I dont know if thats a word. Theres a traditional aspect of Government Agencies for good reason, and i dont know if theyre requirements or things that put them in a place where they have to deliver it, but yes, all things being equal, it doesnt make sense for a person who has been indicted for Sharing Information from classified documents to be receiving intelligence briefings. Did you describe the white house, talking about being indicted, theres a chance currently that if the Supreme Court knocks down the Immunity Case and sends the Election Interference Case back to judge chutkan in june, say, that this will go to trial in september, potentially. Is that a good thing or a bad thing for former President Trump . Does the white house see him on trial right ahead of the election as a problem for them or as a benefit . They will tell you, they dont think about it. Of course they think about it. I think its a good thing for them if that happens. They cant control it obviously. Jack smith, as you know, and you said many times, as others have, the guideline doesnt apply to this case. Also the judge can decide, and the judge is not beholden to that guideline. Heres why, especially in that case, the Election Interference Case, which you could argue the new york one too. The january 6th case, when that is front and center for people, that is the case that has the most political power. Our friend Claire Mccaskill argued it would be good for donald trump to be seen on trial. He would campaign entirely from the courtroom and make it look like hes a victim. He might, but that doesnt mean that works with independent voters or democrats who might sit at home. Whats different between now and 2016 is theres a lot of people in the Democratic Party and independents who absolutely really hate donald trump more than they did in 2016. This is just a reminder of the role he played. There are more people who hate him in 2024 than 2020. I think so, yes. Turnout, we saw turnout in 2020 for donald trump and President Biden. He had more, which is why he won. Do you believe that those same voters, the same number of voters, the same enthusiasm that we saw in 2020 exists for 2024. And if so, where does it come from . Is it just all because people are terrified of donald trump . Its not all donald trump hatred, though some of it is. This is why its been clarified for the electorate, including people who are just not that enthused about engaging this year. When theyre reminds donald trump is the nominee, its not changing. Nikki haley is not the nominee. Thats good for the biden team. Its also abortion rights. Whats happened between now and 2020 is of course the dobbs ruling. That was a big motivator in 2022. It pushed out what people call surge voters. People who voted because of that. I think the biden team is betting on that. Its incumbent to remind people of whats at risk. Its so good to have you. Especially good to see you in person. Please come back as often as possible. I would love to. Jen, thank you. And still ahead, what americas first ivf baby thinks about the alabama ruling that halted the procedure. Shes headed to the State Of The Union tonight, but shes going to join this show first. And what is a better indicator for november, Public Opinion polls or past elections . The two are in conflict. Which can you trust. Plus, what is going on with Donald Trumps finances. He just asked for yet another stay on his e. Jean carroll bond. We are back in 60 seconds. One of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, Nurtec Odt May help. Its the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. Treat and prevent, all in one. Dont take if allergic to nurtec. Allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. Most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. Relief is possible. Talk to a doctor about nurtec odt. [cough] honey. Honey. Nyquil severe honey. Powerful cold and flu relief with a Dreamy Honey Taste Nyquil honey, zyrtec allergy relief works fast and lasts a full 24 hours so dave can be the. Deliverer of dance. Ok, dave lets be more than our allergies. Zeize the day with zyrtec. To the sound of clicking cameras, 3 day old Elizabeth Jordan carr met the press today along with her mother and father, judy and roger carr. Elizabeth was the first baby conceived by the in vitro technique in which the mothers egg is fertilized in a Laboratory Dish with sperm from the father. Elizabeths pediatrician, dr. Frederick werth says shes doing famously. Shes terrific. Shes an alert baby. She fixes with her eyes. Right now shes a little bit sleepy, and all of this clicking is lulling her to sleep. Mrs. Carr was asked about criticism of In Vitro Fertilization from right to life groups who worry that doctors may one day play god, destroying less than perfect embryos. I just hope they, you know, understand that we have our child and thats what we wanted, and they have their right to their opinion. Thats on the nose. Elizabeth carr entered the world on december 28th, 1981. As a 5 pound and 12 ounce modern miracle. Americas first ivf baby. Now shes one of many millions, but the procedure that brought her and so many others into life is now under threat by the American Court system. Joining Us Democratic senator from virginia, tim kaine, and his special guest for tonights State Of The Union, you see her right there, elizabeth carr. You were a very cute baby, elizabeth. Thank you. Very well behaved. I was impressed how well your mom was moving three day after birth. Tell me what you think about the current debate right now and this Alabama Court ruling . Whats so interesting about this debate right now, when i was born 42 years ago, essentially the same debate was happening, but then i was born and many people realized that i was just a normal baby like everybody else. So while the ruling was devastating to the ivf community, im hopeful that through efforts like those of Senator Kaine and duckworth that we can move forward to actually protect ivf on a national level. Whats your message to those who argue that an embryo should have the same rights as a child, elizabeth . So i think its critical here that people understand the science of ivf and understand that one embryo does not equal one baby, and it takes many many chances. Ivf is sadly not a magic bullet, so really, it takes a lot of effort and a lot of eggs and embryos to actually end up with that live birth. I think thats a critical piece that many people have overlooked. Senator, why was it so

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