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And the u. S. Is not calling for the resignation of the Prime Minister. Instead calling for a transition. They are being careful and they have said they are not intervening they are specific about their words saying they are evacuating the personnel. Which we talk about the evacuation our understanding is flights have been canceled and people are stranded. We are trying to confirm. And we know for people trying to get in and out its difficult if not impossible without evacuation which we saw with The Americans being evacuated. Thank you for that breaking news update. To ban or not to ban . On the issue of tiktok in just a few minutes. Good day from ma World Headquarters in new york welcome to the report. We are beginning looking ahead to the first full week of campaigning with the unofficial start of the general election under way. President biden and former President Trump attacking each other duelling rallies in georgia saturday. Celebrated contribution of immigrants to our country our economy and our communities. Donald trump calls them ver mon. Poison the blood of america. Do not doubt where my heart is. Unlike donald trump. He was an Inlegal Ailient he was an illegal migrant and he shouldnt have been in our country. And biden should be apologizes for apologizing to the killer. The president s Campaign Says it brought in 10 million in fundraising after the State Of The Union and an abc poll shows 29 of The Americans Thought Biden performed better than expected. And he told ma in an interview saturday. Here is what he said if he has a red line when it comes to israel. What is your red line with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. . Do you have a red line . Would invasion of rafah which youve urged him not to do would that be a red line . I will never leave israel the defense of israel is critical. There is no red line i will cutoff all weapons. They dont have but theres red lines if you cross them and if you cannot have 30,000 more palestinians dead. And just a minute, jonathan will join me to talk about this interview. It comes amid criticism to develop a corridor to ship aid into gaza. The efforts to build a pier in to get aid in that way are not exclusive. The president and others continue to urge israel to open up more corridors into gaza and crucially within gaza to make sure their systems to deliver that aid. So you have to do a lot. The air drops are another piece of this. But its part of a larger strategy to get more aid into gaza. Lets go to alley with the president in delaware. We have the president hitting the Campaign Trail already and we did get insight into the appeal that holds with his interview. Talk about things he said in that interview . No shortage of headlines out of this interview between jonathan and President Biden while in georgia yesterday. And several of them as you laid out were related to the israelhamas war. The president continuing to use the sharper language when talking about Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahus handling of the war and the ongoing humanitarian crisis in gaza. The president saying he is hopeful a that a Sear Fire Deal would be able to be reached by ramadan which is very, very soon. He talked about being willing to go to theness set to peek with israelis about the humanitarian crisis in gaza and weve seen since the war began this war becoming more and more of a political vulnerability for President Biden. Especially as the general Election Campaign really kicks off in earnest. The president talking to jonathan about the reelection efforts. Here here is what he had to say. The only time i get out of the cloiter of the white house where i look people in the eye and listen to their argument ps and the pain and see the pain in their face and what they need to have relieved. The president and his team are preparing to fan out across the country to build on that momentum from the widely praised state of the Union Address and try to get that messaging out on the road. We expect the president to go to New Hampshire he will be in michigan and wisconsin. And the Biden Campaign telling nbc news that the 24 hours after the State Of The Union speech they raised 10 million the largest 24hour Fundraising Haul since last april. Thank you for that from delaware. Right now we will bring in my colleague who conducted that terrific interview, jonathan host of the saturday and sunday show here on ma. Welcome. Nice get. Lets talk about the soundbyte that gave us a glimpse were the president may be running again what was your takeaway about the approach of the interview in demeanor and the mood of the campaign and how engaging was he on your questions . So in terms of the mood of the campaign, the mood is how should we say, its buoyant especially after the president s very strong very well received state of the Union Address. I think in the clip that you played you could hear me you love campaigning and its clear. He loves being able to get out of washington now that the campaign is on, he is very excited to get out and prosecute the case for why he should get a second term and why donald trump shouldnt be president of the United States. He views this as not so much of getting him another four years he views this as protecting american democracy and the countrys standing in the world by preventing donald trump from getting into the white house again. So he is in a very good mood. He is looking forward to getting on the Campaign Trail. In terms of answering my questions, as you recall i interviewed the president in October Of 2022 and we had a nice back and forth this back and forth, alex, was a lot more brisk before the interview he said to me listen if i go on and on in an answer, feel free to cut me off. Im serious. I asked him 14 questions in 13 minutes. I went back and koumented the questions i was able to, yes, yes. So this is a man who is incredibly on message and disciplined. But also wants to be able to say all the things he wants to say leave enough time to get to the next question, because the mans got a lot to say. He has a record he wants to run on and he wants to talk about why donald trump doesnt need to be in the white house again. Sounds like a blistering pace. So, i know that you asked about the president about the backlash against his support of israel and the belief what is happen something a genocide. Lets listen that. What is your response to that widely shared sentiment . It is not widely shared. You make judgments you are not capable of making. That is not what the people said. They are upset and i dont blame them from being upset. People are dying they want something done about it and joe, do something do something. But the idea that they all think its genocide is a different situation. Look, weve heard from voters who do hold this view he is funding a genocide. How much is he aware of the level of backlash and how much risk does it pose to his reelection . He is very well aware. The administration is very well aware. The campaign is well aware. And everywhere they go, there are protestors. The motorcade was pulling in to the rally spot there was a knot of protesters loud and vigorous and waving their signs and chanting as the vehicles went by. Talking about palestinianians and gaza and wanting the president to change policy. And you know, its interesting political europe is reporting that Benjamin Netanyahu has said he will plan to invade rafah and as you played, the president said that innovation of rafah would be one of the red lines and the distinction the president was making is because in the question that i asked it was is there a red line for his support of the Prime Minister . Not for his support of israel. And he made it clear. When it comes to israel i will do everything to protect it. When it comes to the nations Prime Minister, ive got limits from innovation of rafah to seeing another 30,000 palestinians killed. I think were about to see a big clash between the leaders of these countries. This brings me to this question because you asked it. The one about the hot mic moment at the State Of The Union and saying he and Benjamin Netanyahu will have a come to jesus meeting. You asked him what it looks like. Here is what he said. He has a right to defend israel, a right to continue to pursue hamas but he must, must, must pay more attention to the innocent lives lost of the actions taken. He is hurting in my view, he is hurting israel more than helping israel by making the rest of the country what it it stands for. And it is a big mistake. Look, that statement was heard in israel. Benjamin netanyahu pushed back against that. How much private frustration do you sense in the Biden Administration over israels actions Benjamin Netanyahu actions inside of gaza . Oh, they are not private so much anymore. They are becoming more and more public. And what is interesting and this is why i asked the question about whether he would how some people said he should go back to israel and address theness set. The Israeli Parliament and my Shot In The Dark Question but i was surprised by the response when he said flat out yes. He would like to go back to israel. He would like to go back to speak and what would make it interesting, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahus standing within israel is very low. He is incredibly unpopular now. Remember, one of the ministers in his work cabinet more popular than Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was in washington met with the vicepresident , met with the National Security adviser was in europe in the middle part of the week. If the president of the United States were to be invited to israel to speak to theness set and he goes, you can only imagine the speech he would give to the israeli people about the United States support and his view on their Prime Minister. Well see if he gets that opportunity. One more question. You talked about the president s confrontation the aMarjorie Taylor greene. Do you sense he enjoys engaging with her and with the other rightwing republicans . Does he like this combative and clever back and forth . Oh, absolutely. He absolutely loves it. One, he is a people person. And he loves interacting with people but he loves interacting with adversaries especially when he knows he has the upper hand. With greene she is so easy to read she is so easy to bait and she is so easy to run circles around for him, you know, its fun. I got to tell you, you are the man of the weekend and then some. We are playing the interviews for anybody who wants to see more, you can see jonathans interview on The Sunday Show 6 00 p. M. Eastern here on msnbc. Thank you. A tiktok ban is not all talk. My conversation with Congressman Ro Cana next. We are back in 60 seconds. It her schedule. Woman you must be pascal. Tech nice to meet you. Tech vo we got right to work, with a replacement she could trust. Tech were all set. Woman wow. That looks great. Tech schedule now at safelite. Com. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. Meet the jennifers. Jen x. Jen y. And jen z. 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First its because of tiktok and allies lobbying members of Congress Hard on the Free Expression that taking away tiktok would take away americans freedom of peach and the impact it would have on the people that use the app. Think about the chefs, the Lifestyle Creators and the Dough Medians that have not left their jobs because of how successful they have been doing and financially making on this app. It could go either way. Here is what members of congress have to say on meet the press. Do you support banning tiktok . The goal is to make sure that american data that tiktok collects doesnt fall in the hands of the Chinese Party interest i have not supported a ban on tiktok when it comes to a platform or vehicle for speech we need to look for the least restrictive means of meeting our objectives. The house will vote this week and then it goes to the senate for action there. The president signalled he will sign . Joining me i have democratic Congressman Ro Cana. Its the first time we have met. Im excited to be in sued yo. Lets talk about this situation regarding tiktok and what is happening on capitol hill. First of all, how do you feel about this . Would you also support this ban and do you think there are serious National Security concerns through tiktok for the United States . Im leaning to vote no. I dont support a ban on tiktok for First Amendment reasons you have the left and the right on a platform that is antiestablishment that is offering views that you dont often hear in the mainstream media. Is there a concern about our data taken that could get to the Chinese Communist party . Yes. Its on platforms that sell to data brokers why we need a bill of rights to address that problem. How about your constituents how they would react to a ban on tiktok . The younger folks are opposed to it. And people who used this for making a livelihood are opposed and used it for political expression. There are concerns about data not getting into the wrong hands. But then the answer should be tailor legislation to address that issue. Do you think that will be forthcoming . I voted for a bill of rates in 2017 and we have not passed something that protects our data. The question is if you are going to tiktok your data shouldnt get into the wrong hands then address that. We dont want the 170 million on the platforms to have a say. Lets talk about the war on gaza. After the president s State Of The Union speech i want to read the quote you gave to the new york times. You cant have a policy of giving aid and giving israel the weapons to bomb the food trucks at the same time. Talk about the tensions that you are seeing within the Biden Administration as it looks the this war. President biden was strong in the State Of The Union on gaza. He was strong over all but this is the most he talked about palestinian suffering. He you had said 30,000 palestinians have been killed. And said that the killing has to stop of civilians and calleded for a ceasefire on the condition of the release of hostages. We cant continue to give weapons. Its reported over 100 times the United States has shipped weapons. We cant be giving the weapons and trying to get aid when israel is launching the weapons on the people trying to give aid to. Were you aware that the United States was delivering the hundreds of times of giving military aid to israel . We you had it was conveyed to congress in a classified briefing but were you aware . I was not. And look, i heard im on the Armed Services committee i heard the interview with the president and he said what is the red line . And he he wants to give iron come. We support iron dome. Most of the 100 shipments were offensive missions the missiles israel is using to kill people in gaza that is what needs to stop. Into a sound by the that he gave i will give the quote that the president gave to jonathan and he said that an israeli invasion of rafah would be a red line but he would not cutoff all weapons so they dont have the iron dome to protect them. Should there be a red line . Yes. You cant define the United States and create more of a humanitarian catastrophe with 500,000 people are starving and babies and children being malnourished and killed that should be clear. No weapons offensive weapons for launching strikes. That d