On this new our of ayman, politics and rhetoric go hand inhand. These days, so does the truth and misinformation. Tonight we clear out the lies being told about immigration and crime. Plus, the powerful payoff of loyalty. We read Between The Lines of the new position. Us says children dying from starvation in gaza is a warning like no other. The president and ceo joins us. Lets get started. We know that immigration has become one of the top issues of this years president ial race. According to a recent poll, it has emerged as the most important issue for the First Time Since 2019. More than half of those surveyed said quote large numbers of immigrants entering the United States illegally is a critical threat to us interests. In other words, theres a general sense of fear around immigrants right now. Polls like these show us there is a massive gap between perception and reality. Yes, you may feel unsafe, but the truth is very different. That gap is in great part due to decades of gop Fear Mongering. Remember, we saw this anti immigrant Rhetoric Flareup when donald trump announced his run for the oval office in 2015 where he falsely claimed that mexico was sending drugs and over the border and then in the races of 2022, this type of rhetoric moved from fringe rights to mainstream republican Talking Points decrying a so called invasion at the southern border. Now, with trump vying for another bid at the white house the rhetoric has only gotten worse in recent months as he has promised the largest deportation in American History and mass deportation camps to scare you, and to scare voters is the point of this rhetoric. But the data shows us something different, that trumps claims against migrants are baseless including when it comes to comments about the socalled Migrant Crime Wave. The nbc news review of crime data where migrants have been flown by Texas Governor abbott, shows overall crime actually dropping. In fact, immigrant Crime Research over the past 20 years has shown that immigrants commit fewer crimes than nativeborn americans, but despite these facts, rhetoric has become synonymous with the Republican Party and Fear Mongering has become the foundation for many of their policies. Look at arizona where a bill passed in the state house which would allow citizens to shoot and kill anyone who was trespassing on their land, is being right now. One democrat said the bill would allow quote, open season on migrants. But tribalism, xenophobia has always been a part of the dark history of america and our social fabric and anti immigrant language can sometimes be so pervasive that it can make its way into the back door of progressive liberal spaces. During his state of the Union AddressPresident Biden used the word illegal when describing an undocumented man who allegedly killed a georgia nursing student. To be clear, no human being is illegal. Biden has since received pushback from some fellow democrats and migrant advocates. Yesterday, he attempted to rectify this by apologizing for using the word to describe an undocumented immigrant. During an msnbc exclusive. You may be wondering why does this matter . Its just a word. Who cares. Language matters. The words we use to describe each other matters and unlike trump, biden understands that words can shape our reality and that they can have realworld and dangerous consequences. Joining me to start off is the founder of twin impact which is dedicated to powering campaigns in her organization and is a veteran Campaign Manager and a former white house senior advisor. Thank you so much. I appreciated. I appreciate you joining me tonight with this very uplifting topic but lets start with this idea that, donald trump is using the very same rhetoric that he was using during 2015, during 2016 but it has been eight years since then. How effective is that today . I think what were seeing is that over and over again for nearly a decade now he has been spreading this racist garbage of a message and it is starting to have an impact on the American Public. Voters to perceive immigration to be a top issue. But as youve mentioned this has been studied by many people over many years at many institutions, and every single time it shows that crime rates of undocumented populations are lower than crime rates in nativeborn populations. So what is this about . Its about donald trump trying to soften the ground for his rise as an authoritarian leader. When he sits in that interview with sean hannity and says on day one im going to be a dictator, hes talking about immigration. Because he thinks that he has won the argument in a way that will allow us to give him a Permission Structure to use the military to round people up. But we would be foolish if we were to think hes going to stop on day one and foolish to think that hes going to stop at immigration. So thats why it is so critically important that democrats actually get in the game on this issue and present an alternative vision that is inclusive of the millions of people who are built into the fabric of this nation who need a pathway to citizenship. You cant just meet him where hes at on this issue because its a cycle of lies. You mentioned democrats and that is the question. What can democrats do taking into consideration that this crime, Migrant Crime Wave rhetoric has been very powerful, that this whole conversation has been dominated by fox news, by the gop. What can democrats effectively do to counter that . One thing is, we need to remember who donald trump was as president. This is a man who rescinded dac a to try to take down dreamers and their stability and their lives with Work Authorization and deport them. This is a man who took children out of the arms of their mothers. This is a man who tried to pass policies to send us back to the racial quota laws of the 1920s. One benefit that the democrats have is four years of Immigration Policy that was remarkably unpopular by donald trump. He lost in the 2018 election pushing on immigration, he lost in 2020. Thats why it is important that democrats dont just meet him where hes at on this issue. They need to walk the American Public away from their fear of the brown boogie man and into a policy vision for the future, one that is also inclusive of hope and of the people in important states like the state of nevada and arizona as well. Alida garcia, i have to ask you because we started this show by underlining this idea that language matters. What were your initial thoughts when you heard President Biden say the word illegal, which of course he has since rectified and apologized . What do you make of that . It was hurtful and i think that there are a lot of people who want to make sure that the american process, and their leadership, is one that believes that they should be a part of the process. When we use language like that, you erode a sense of belonging. So i know that for me and my peers we were rooting for the president. He was crushing it. The group chats were all flames but then when that happened it was like, how did this happen . Because it was hurtful. I have the privilege of being a United States citizen but i have many friends who are undocumented who are just as equally built into the fabric of the nation who felt like the president was not speaking to them at this moment, and in fact was being harmful. So im really happy to have seen his interview this weekend because i think he understands that that was a mistake and hopefully we wont experience that again. Alida garcia, thank you so much for your insights and for joining me. I want to turn to a republican who just won the primary race for texas 34th Congressional District along the Rio Grande Valley. Florez won during a special election in 2022 becoming the first republican latina to represent the state in congress before losing in december 2 another democrat. They are set for a rematch two years later and joining me now is mayra flores. Thank you for being with me tonight. Thank you. So youve made history in the past, you recently just won your republican primary, winning over 80 of the vote, but i am thinking about the viewers listening to you tonight. I think one of the things that many are still sort of wrestling with is this idea of, how can a mexican born person, the daughter of immigrants, a young latina from a border state, back a party whose leader has said that immigrants poison the blood of our country . What would you tell our viewers . Do you believe that only people that are far left, only democrats should come to this country . You dont believe that conservatives should be able to come to this country as well . Because i was raised with conservative values, the values that i fight for our values that were fulfilled by my parents and grandparents and just because i came here to the United States does not mean i should forget those values. To me, those values are more important than any Political Party and in my opinion its the Biden Administration values that are poisoning our culture because he does not represent our values of god, family, of hard work. That is just who we are. And i know them has majority of the Hispanic Community are strong in faith and Family Values and also very hard working. You make an important point which is this idea that yes, there is a large segment that are conservative, that do believe in the principles that you are espousing in your campaign. I was referring to this idea of approximating yourself as a hispanic and latina to trump precisely because of the language that he uses and because he prefers refers to undocumented immigrants as poisonous, terrorists, people carrying diseases and as mentally ill people. My question to you again is, do you condemn that type of anti immigrant rhetoric . I condemned the Biden Administration and what he has done to our community. He has hurt our community tremendously here in south texas. Its because of him that the majority of the American People right now are hurting tremendously living paycheck to paycheck. The majority of americans right now are making serious sacrifices and are not able to spend family time with their children. Why . Because they have to work. And right now it feels like all we do is work and work and work. We are not able to enjoy life. Why . Because everything is so expensive and we are not able to take that family vacation. That is our top priority. Securing the border, strengthening the economy. Thats what is hurting our community more than anything. Im asking about the language that donald trump uses and i will ask one more time. And im talking about the actions. I ask you about the language because you once represented a district where over 90 are latino but there are many mixed status families just in the rio grande mixed status families just in the rio grande pl. , coming from families were at least one person is undocumented so one more time, do you condemn that type of really dangerous, anti immigrant rhetoric where people that are in your district are being called poisonous and terrorists . No. Known as being called that in south texas so do not make up words. Absolutely not. No one has called the people of south texas that. Absolutely not. Youre making up words. Are you saying that the people of south texas are undocumented . We are americans. We stand for god, for family, and hard work. That is who we are here in south texas. Words are important, those are, in fact words that donald trump has used. You mentioned the border. Obviously the border is extremely important in your district. Its extremely important issue at the national level. President biden, as you know, has put forward this i partisan Border Security bill that has been endorsed by the National BorderPatrol Council. It has been endorsed by many conservative senate republicans. Its a bill that Even Amnesty International has called the most extreme antiimmigrant proposal this country has seen in 100 years. Why dont you support the bill . It still allows over 5000 people to cross illegally into this country and it is sending billions of dollars to ukraine. That is not Border Security. We should not be encouraging ilLegal Immigration. Theres nothing compassionate about ilLegal Immigration. Do you know what happens to these women and to these children that ive personally spoken to . Ive spoken to women who were multiple timesand abused through the dangerous journey. I have children that were abused as well in this dangerous journey. We need to stop encouraging ilLegal Immigration which is also funding the cartel at the southern border, which is also hurting people in mexico. Millions of Mexican Americans Cannot Go To Mexico or dont go as often because they are afraid. I cant go visit their loved ones. IlLegal Immigration is funding the mexican cartel. We need to stop encouraging ilLegal Immigration. We need to instead focus on Legal Immigration. Known as talking about the millions of people waiting in line right now. What about them . What about the people that have been waiting for five, 10, 15 years that the Biden Administration promised to do something about . We need to focus on Legal Immigration and helping those people following the law. These people should not be a top priority. The top priority should be the American People, the people that voted for them to be in that position that they are in. Thats a we are supposed to be voting for. To be clear the National BorderPatrol Council themselves, who represent more than 18,000 agents, they said that the bill that has now been put forward to a vote, theyve said that it will drop legal Border Crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our borders illegally. So again in these conversations, words and facts matter. Are desperate. Order patrol agents are desperate right now. Those are in fact words coming from Border Patrol agents. Im a Border Patrol wife. I understand. Thank you for joining me tonight. Its good to have these conversations. After the break we will hear from a Latina Congressional candidate on the other side of the aisle in texas also running in a district right along the Rio Grande Valley. 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