Wait until we show you what happened this weekend. Joe biden and donald trump held dueling rallies and held drastically different visions for the country. I will let you guess which one happened and Marjorie Taylor greens district. Governor wall is a ally and i will get his reaction to all of it. Plus on friday donald trump posted a 91 Million Dollars bond in the carroll case. 4 hours later it seemed like he defamed her again. I will ask a law firm if trumps task should be going up. Also today katies response to the State Of The Union was really something and she was back on the air this morning. We have a response to the response. Later he was a Secretary Of State and the climate envoy, now my old boss appears this the boy from government we sit down for his exit interview. If it wasnt clear before, and it probably was to you, the events of this week cemented it. Joe biden and donald trump will be the Major Party Nominees this november. Lets get it out of the way and say for whole host of reasons this will not be a regular election. For the first time in 70 years americans will get a rematch of a president ial race. For the first time in 100 years americans will have a president and former president on the ballot. For the first time in history one of the candidates will be running under criminal indictment. You know the one. We have seen both of these guys before and we know who they are. For the first time in a very long time a president ial race wont include a splashy outsider change candidate who is introducing himself to the public. And yet that seems to be how donald trump wants to sell himself the New York Times reported according to trumps advisers and allies he will again seek to change the claim mantle. Leave it or not the trying to position him. Yes the guy who was president less than four years ago, as an outsider. He is not an incumbent, he is an insurgent. Now at this point i have some real questions about calling donald trump an outsider. He has essentially become the Republican Party. Setting that aside change can be a winning message. Its how Ronald Reagan won in 1980 and will clinton in 1982. Its how barack obama ran and one in 2008. Even how donald trump won in 2016. Its a simple story, change versus the same. Even one democratic strategist put it, if the choice is you rather stay the course or change i would always take change in the world we are in. Here is the problem with that shorthand political strategic repair we need to be clear about what change would mean under donald trump. Donald trump is not a normal candidate and we shouldnt talk about him like he is. Hes not running a normal message of change. Donald trumps and magas vision of change is forward looking and not progressive. Joe biden made that in a speech, hes been on quite a roll. Trying to lay out clearly what the change would look like a world that is friendly to autocracy and against the rule of law. A world where Reproductive Rights are stripped of women and immigrants are dehumanized. I understand if you dont want to take joe bidens remarks as gospel but donald trump has no problem speaking for himself when you compare the two side byside the contrast is something to behold. It tells you a lot about the person he keeps coming with. Yesterday he was hosting at his club victor or von. Who said he doesnt think democracy works. Calling him a fantastic leader. I had dinner last night with the great gentlemen from hungary. The prime minister, Victor Orbach. Very, very tough. Some people dont like him because he is very tough break celebrate the immigrants to the economy and thou shalt call them vermin i will stop the invasion. I will stop the killing. I will stop the bloodshed and end the agony of our people. The plunder of our cities and the sacking of our towns, the violation of our citizens and the conquest of our country. We all know donald trump sees a different america. A story of resentment and recognition. Thats not me, thats not you. We have a very corrupt country. I fired a lot of bad people that i did not know it run so deep. We will get rid of the rest of them and i know who most of them are. So is donald trump for change . Sure he is. For change your democracy into an automatic rate state like Victor Orbach demonizing migrants and normalizing the language of adolf hitler and abusing the power of the presidency for retribution above all else. By definition that would be a whole lot of change. Lets be clear about the kind of Change Donald Trump is saying he wants to inflict in his second term. Sharing thoughts today is minnesota democratic governor tim walz. Ive been look forward to having him on for a while. The chair of the democratic associates. Thank you for taking your time. I want to start with my thesis. Even democratic strategists will say trump has an advantage of sorts because he is running as the change candidate. What i was curious of you, youre the governor of minnesota and were very popular. You talk to voters a lot, when you go out there voters say i dont want more of the same, i want someone who mixes things up what do you say to them . Well, good morning and thank you. I think your comparison and contrast is exactly right. This is a Binary Choice. You want someone who wakes up whos competent and compassionate or someone who creates chaos. Conspiracy theory and all the things you hear. The short clip should terrify a lot of folks and the good news is the majority of folks minnesota do believe that. We lived under Donald Trumps presidency. That meant people were dying of covid and he was saying it would be gone in a week. We saw joe biden come in and tackle the tough issues and outputting a positive vision. Donald trump has been a minnesota a lot. He does a big rally and doesnt deliver a thing. Joe biden comes out and gets 1 billion for the most important bridge connecting wisconsin and the great lakes where trade matters, jobs matter. We will get out there and tell the story. This week watching some of the media colleagues wake up and say look at this, its a new joe biden. No its not, its the same competent joe biden who has been delivering. Governors understand because we have to do it every day. Doesnt deliver a thing. Someone is making close on teachers. I think its a Point Of Independence Pride And Street but in 2017 candidates picked up over 5 of the vote in the state. How concerned about you of the impact. We are fully in and of third party candidates. Rfk junior, jill stein or others hurting the president in minnesota. Yeah, we do have an independent streak. One of them was a wrestler in jesse ventura. Its out there so i think people are hearing what youre hearing and i appreciate your framing. This is not a normal election, quit treating it like a horse race using the normal metrics. Every time donald trump is on the ballot democrats win. We saw win in kentucky with a message of job creation in that state. We see special elections go whether its up in new york. I know folks are going to be out there. I know at this point in time we are abroad party we dont wear the same stupid red hats. We have a lot of ideas and theres a tendency to look. Joe biden is consolidating that the message is clear and the results are obvious. We move closer to november the Binary Choice between a trump absolute chaos and slipping away of democracy versus a guy who gets it done. That was apparently the State Of The Union. The new ad is spectacular and tells the story. You will see more and more of that. Doesnt keep you up at night that a thirdparty candidate could take a bunch of the votes from joe biden and helped trump in your state . Oh yeah, well i think they should be worried even in my state where we had folks expressing a deep desire and dissatisfaction with the state in gonzo. But trump lost more votes than the president on that. I dont know if you will consolidate its Mad Max Beyond Thunder Dome Vision of america, thats not whats there. At the end of the day its not a protest vote. We dont have the luxury of thing i wish we had a perfect candidate. This is a Binary Choice and it could not be clearer. The third party folks, Rfk Junior Nonsense around vexing denial is not going to go anywhere and our own homegrown candidate has stone support behind the president and i think that bodes well. Youre also the chair of the democratic governors division. You have a full plate, fair to say. One of the alarming things that happen this week was in carolina. The democrats have a great candidate in josh stein. Lieutenant governor Mark Robinson is the nominee on the republican side. Is probably more conspiracy addled than anyone. Donald trump loves him and referred to him as Martin Luther king on steroids which is a bizarre thing to say. What im curious about your per spec is how do you use the extreme nature of Mark Robinson to drive out more votes in North Carolina. To put that in the win column for joe biden and of course josh stein . I think thats right. Governors are delivering. Folks across the country know if you have it democratic governor your Reproductive Rights are protected. Theyre leaning around the issues of Climate Change and you sound in North Carolina. Eight years of roy cooper faulted North Carolina to the top job creation state, expanded medicaid protection and womens right. Josh stein delivers that making North Carolina save and prosperous for all. And you have Mark Robinson. I dont know what to say. A holocaust denier, someone who mocks the survivors of school shootings. Continues to go down this road but this is systematic. This is the party of donald trump, of no vision. How is that rhetoric going to make anyones life better . He says teachers are evil people. I will take this personal im up Public School teacher that i ask listeners to think of fun memories of your fourth grade teacher and with your children with the care they are shown at school. To say those are evil people whose desire is to destroy Public Schools the message will be strong. In every election, i dont care where the polls are, every election since donald trump has been on. 18, 20, and 23 special elections we will be there. Mark robinson we will make sure people get to know him. Will make sure hes very clear. Use his own words its all we need but the contrast is this, compassionate Visionary Leader of josh stein following the incredible leadership roy cooper provided. Folks in North Carolina know life is better when you have a governor who actually cares and is not in these weird, bizarre conspiracy theories. Looking forward to it and we will do it across the country. From washington to new hampshire. We will show people when democratic governors in charge, Family Issues matter and compassion rules the day. Governor tim walz i think people will learn a lot more about the Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina. It is a race to watch for sure. Thank you for joining us. And coming up donald trump just posted a 92 million bond in the aging carol Defamation Case and he might have the same last night. After the break i will ask about all of it. Were just Getting Started today and we will be right back. Id rather work on saving for retirement. Or college, since you like to get schooled. Thats a pretty good burn, right . When moderate to Severe Ulcerative Colitis takes you off course. Put it in check with rinvoq, a oncedaily pill. 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Just a Reminder Trump is on the hook for more than 466 million in a separate civil fraud judgment. That amount is growing by 112,000 per day in interest. How does trump pay up . What could they possibly gain from trump if he returns to the white house. Joining me is our inhouse law firm, neal and the former acting general andrew wiseman. The former council of the fbi. Also the coauthor of a brand new bestselling book, the trump indictment. The historic documents of commentary. Okay, andrew i want to start with something you tweeted. Trump made someone like elon musk cosigning the trump bond so the bank is comfortable being on the hook for the judgment. Same could happen for the bond with the 450 million adjustment. Can you explain what that means and how that works and what you think is happening here. Sure, listening to the first segment about whether donald trump will be successful in running as an outsider, this is an example of his running as an outsider but as an outlaw. And not stress the criminal cases but you have the civil cases where he has judgments. He has two up to 91 million in the e. Jean carroll case and 400 million in the new york fraud case. The concern in the civil cases, civil judgment, is who is the candidate the holden to . Is he somebody who is going to be making policy and being differential to people who have put up money . Theres a simple way of looking at this. He has 450 million reasons to be differential someone else is putting up the money or cosigning. For example elon musk im not saying he is a cosigner but he has said ive not given up money but thats not the only way you can help donald trump get a bond. You can actually cosign it. That issue of who is actually behind them is something people who are voting should know. Is sounds very clear what andrew is talking about but its important for people to understand why that matters. It sounds like trump is beholden to someone and we may never know who it is, maybe we will but regardless what dangers does that pose especially since he could become president again. Some few dangers, not every day someone posts a 92 million bond. Thats important to remember. Is not even close to the biggest bond he has to post this month. Theyre raising the point if someone is guaranteeing the bond besides trump, the way a parent might cosign a lease for their college kids apartment, that can make them indebted to that person and give a whole new meaning to the term political dark money. When you have a National Security position, you go through a Background Check and one of the key things they investig