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MSNBCW Ayman July 4, 2024

He falsely claimed that mexico was sending drugs and rapists and this type of rhetoric moved from the fringe right to the mainstream talk points with the socalled invasion of the Sojourner Border and now with trump vying for another bid at the white house, this rhetoric has only gotten worse in recent months as he promised the largest deportation and to scare voters is the spread of the rhetoric, but the data shows us something different. It shows that trumps claims against the migrants are baseless including with the comments of the should crime wave. The nbc news review of crime data in blue cities where migrants are bussed and flown with Texas Governor abbott shows crime dropping, in fact, immigrant Crime Research over the past 20 years have shown that immigrants commit fewer crimes than nativeborn americans, but despite the facts, antiimmigrant and racist rhetoric is foundation and Fear Mongering for many of the policies like in arizona where a bill passed up the statehouse that allows citizens to shoot and kill anyone trespassing on their land is being pondered now. A phoenix democrat said the bill would allow, quote, open season on migrants, but tribalism is part of the fabric and antiand in the state of the union, president ial debate used the word illegal when describing an undocumented man that killed a georgia student, lincoln riley. No human being is illegal. Biden has received pushback from some fellow democrats and migrant advocates. Yesterday, biden attempted to rectify this by apologizing for using that word to describe an undocumented immigrant with a exclusive with jonathan capehart. Why does this matter, its a word, who cares. This language matters and the words we use to describe each other matter and just like trump, biden realizes that our border words can reshape our world and have consequences. This is ana garcia, from the Power Campaign and a veteran Campaign Manager and former white house senior advisor. Thank you so much, i appreciate it. Thanks for having me. I appreciate you joining me with this uplifting topic. Lets start with this idea that donald trump is using the very same rhetoric that he was using during 2015, during 2016, but its been eight years since then. How effect is that today . Well, what i think what were seeing is that over and over again for nearly a decade now, he has been spreading this racist garbage of a message, and its starting to have an impact on the American Public. Voters do perceive immigration to be a to be issue, but as youve mentioned, this has been studied by many people over many years at many institutions and every single time, it shows that crime rates in undocumented populations are lower italian crime rates in native born populations, so what is this truly about . This is about donald trying to soften the ground for his rise as an authoritarian leader. When he sits on the interview with shawn handy and says from day one, im going to be a dictator. Hes talking about immigration, because he thinks hes won the argument to use the military to round people up, but we were going to be foolish if we think he would stop on day one and foolish to think if he would stop at immigration, so thats why its so critically important the democrats actually get on this game in the issue and present an alternative vision that is inclusive of the people that need a pathway to citizenship. You cant just meet him where he is on this issue, because its a cycle of lies. Right, you mention the democrats, so what can democrats take into consideration that this situation the migrant crime wave has been powerful and this conversation over immigration is dominated by fox news and the g. O. P. What can democrats effectively do to counter that . Well, one thing is we need to remember who donald trump was as president. This is a man that rescinded daca to try to take down dreamers with their stability in their life with Work Authorization and deport them. This is a man that took children out of the arms of their mothers. This is a man who tried to pass policies to send us back to the racial quota laws of the 1920s. One democrats the democrats have is four years of Immigration Policy that was remarkably unpopular by donald trump. He lost in the 2018 election pushing on immigration. He lost in 2020, and so thats why its important that democrats dont just meet him where hes at on this issue. They need to walk the American Public away from the fear of the Brown Bogeyman and into a Policy Vision for the future inclusive of hope and in states like nevada and arizona, as well. So i have to ask you, because, you know, we started the show by underlying this idea that language matters. What were your initial thoughts when donald trump said illegal since he has rectified. What do you make of that . Well, it was hurtful, and i think there are a lot of people who want to make sure that the american process is one and that center lip is one that believes they should be a part of the process, and when we use language like that, you erode a sense of belonging, so i know for me and my peers, we were rooting for the president. He was crushing it. The group chats were all flames, but then when that happened, it was like, oh, no, how did this happen, because it was hurtful. I have the privilege of being a United States citizen, but i have . Friends undocumented who felt the president was not speaking to them at t and he understands that was a mistake, and hopefully we wont experience that again. Alita garcia, thank you for joining us. Winning the primary race for 34th Congressional District that sits on the Rio Grande Valley center the u. S. Mexico Border and becoming the first latina to represent congress before losing the election to vicente gonzalez. They are set for a rematch who years later and joining me now is mayra flores, thank you for being with me tonight. No, thank you. So you recently just won your republican primary wondering over 80 of the vote, but im thinking about the viewers that are listening to you tonight, right, and i think one of the things that many are still sort of wrestling is this idea of, you know, how can a mexicanborn people, the daughter of Immigrants A Young Latina from a border state back up a party whose leader says immigrants poison the blood of our country. What would you tell our viewers . Do you believe that only people star far left, only democrats should come to this country. You dont believe that conservatives should come to this country, as well . Because i was raised with conservative values, the values i fight for are values that were instilled by my parents and grandparents, and just because i came here to the United States, it doesnt mean i should forget the values. Those values are for important than any political party, and in my opinion, its the Biden Administration values that are poisoning our culture, because he does not represent our values of god, of family, of hard work. That is just who we are in south texas, and i know the majority of the Hispanic Community are strong in faith, in Family Values ask also very hard working. You make an important point, which is the idea, yes, there is a large segment of latinos that are conservative, that do believe in the principals that youre espousing in your campaign. Its relating to the idea approximating yourself as a latina, as a hispanic to trump precisely because of the language he uses, precisely he refers to undocumented immigrants as poisonous, people carrying diseases, mentally ill people. So my question to you is do you condemn that kind of antiimmigrant rhetoric . I condemn the Biden Administration and what he has done to our community. He has hurt our community tremendously here in south texas. Its because of him the majority of the American People are hurting tremendously living paycheck to paycheck. The majority of americans are making serious sacrifices. Theyre not able to spend family time with their children why . Because they have to work, and we feel all we do is work and work and work. Were not able to enjoy life, why . Because everything is so expensive. Were not able to take that family vacation. That is our top priority right now, securing the border, strengthening the economy, thats whats hurting our community more than anything. But im asking about the language that donald trump uses, and ill ask you One More Time . And im talking about the actions. Im talking about the actions. You want to represent a district where 90 are latino, with mixed families in the Rio Grande Valley and at least one person is undocumented, so im asking you One More Time, do you condemn that type of really dangerous antiimmigrant rhetoric where people in your district are being called poisonous and terrorists . No, nobody is being called that, so dont mix up the words. Donald trump hasnt said that . Absolutely. Nobody has called them that. Youre making up words. Youre making up words. Are you saying the people in south texas are undocumented . Are you saying the people of south texas undocumented . We are americans. We stand for god, family ask hard work, and that is who we are in south texas. Its not about words. Those are words that donald trump has used. You mention the border, so lets talk about the borders, obviously, the border is extremely important in your district, its extremely an important issue very important. President biden has pout this endorse biden the National Council and endorsed by . Senate republicans, its a bill that Even Amnesty International called the post extreme antiimmigrant proposal this country has seen in 100 years. Why dont you support the bill . It still allows over 5,000 people to cross illegally into this country, and its sending billions of dollars to ukraine. That is not Border Security. There is nothing compassionate about illegal immigration. Do you know what happens to these women and children that ive personally spoken to them . Ive spoken to women who have multiple times raped and abused on this dangerous journey. I have seen children that were abused, as well, on this dangerous journey. We need to stop encouraging illegal immigration, which is also funding the cartel at the southern border, which is also hurting people in mexico. Millions of mexicanamericans cannot go to mexico or dont go as often because theyre afraid. Stay cant visit their loved ones. Illegal immigration is funding the mexican cartel. We need to stop illegal immigration but instead focus on legal immigration. No one is talking about the millions of people waiting in line right now. What about them . What about the people waiting five, 10, 15 years that the Biden Administration promised to do something about . We need to focus on illegal immigration and helping those people that are following the law. These people should not be a top priority. The top priority should be the American People, the people that voted for them to be in that position that theyre in, thats who were supposed to be putting first. To be clear, the National Border counsel council, represent 18,000 agents, they say the bill put forward to a bill, they said it will drop illegal Border Crossings nationwide and allow our agents get back to detecting and apprehending those that want to cross our border legally. So again, in this conversation the Border Patrol agents are desperate right now. Those are in fact words coming from the Border Patrol agent . Im a Border Patrol wife. I understand. Mayra flores, thank you for joining us. God pless you. Thank you. After the break, well hear from a latino candidate running in the district right along the Rio Grande Valley. G th Rio Grande Valley. Oticed symptoms, which kept coming and going, i should have gone to the doctor. Instead, i tried to let it pass. If you experience Irregular Heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, or lightheadedness, you should talk to your doctor. Afib increases the risk of stroke about 5 times. When it comes to your health, this is no time to wait. Okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. Yay woo hoo ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. And ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. bobby my store and my Design Business . Were exploding. With 30 grams of protein. 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Back in november 2022, the states 15th Congressional District sideouts monica cruz and Michelle Vallejo had a platform based on Progress Policy and in the last segment, we spoke with mayra flores running in the 42nd Congressional District and the 14th and the 15th, those sit on the Rio Grande Valley where the debate over the Border Security and immigration has ramped up in the recent month. As a reporter put in texas molly said, the dualling and congressional democratic candidate Michelle Vallejo joins me now. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. I want to start with your reactions to the conversation i just had with republican congressional candidate mayra flores. I dont know if you were able to listen, but if you were, what was your reaction . So im a Small Business owner, a daughter of immigrants fighting for the hard working families. Im in this fight to make sure we get access to quality healthcare, to make sure that women have the right to choose when it comes to their own choice asks reproductive care, also making sure we get goodpaying jobs and the a good education for our children and families here in south texas ask what i heard is more excuse and more blaming of folks instead of taking responsibility for the results and the solutions that our families in south texas very much need, so i know that i am bringing that voice, especially in this fight and representing south texas already as the democratic nominee of the only swing state that we could flip from red to blue, which is texas 15, and for me also this fight is about honoring my mothers legacy, so my mom lived with Multiple Sclerosis for 15 years since i was very, very young, and often times, we had to travel as a family outside of south texas into mexico to get the care that she desperately needed, so i know that our families are experiencing things that are very, very challenging, and the fight for access to healthc

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