Tonight. Thanks. That is our show for this evening. Now it is time for the last word with lawrence odonnell. Good evening lawrence. Good evening. We have a democratic nominee from the president ial campaign. Joe biden has officially made it so we will be covering some of that. But also a lot of trump coverage to get to. It is a big night. The General Election is on. Have a good show lawrence. Thanks alex. Thank you. Well, it was not a good day for the Trump Fanatics on the republicancontrolled House Judiciary Committee and it was not a great day for their star witness. Republican former u. S. Attorney robert herr conducted the investigation of joe bidens possession of classified material after joe biden left the presidency. That investigation found that he did not commit any crimes at all. And we learned today in the hearing that robert h are rs report about joe biden was not accurate. In his description of joe biden. As an elderly man with unusual memory problems. And you will remember, that bit is the big news of that report. The news that was heard around the world about that report and it is false. Today, the Attorney GeneralMerrick Garland released the full transcript of President Bidens five hours of under Oath Questioning by robert hur. In his report, robert hur claimed that President Biden could not remember when his son died. That is not true. And the transcript, President Biden says what month did beau die . Oh my god. May 30th. And then someone else in the room, and President Biden says it was 2015. And it is now easy to understand joe bidens anger about robert hurs false characterization of the president s memory. Congressman Eric Swalwell found Something Else in the transcript released today of joe bidens testimony. About joe bidens memory. That Robert Huredlyr deliberately did not include. I want to turn to you on the transcript. Day one, page 47. You said to President Biden you have appear to have a photographic understanding and recall of the house. Did you say that to President Biden . Those words do appear on page 47 of the transcript. Photographic is what you said. Is that right . That word does awe peer on page 47 of the transcript. Never appeared in your report though. Is that correct . The word photographic . That does not appear in my report. Carson swalwell zeroed in on a possible motivation for robert hur to slant his report against joe biden in every way that he could. A lot has changed since 2018. For the person who appointed you. Former president trump. Since you were appointed, he was impeached for leveraging 350 u. S. , 350 million u. S. Taxpayer dollars over ukraine to get dirt on President Biden. He was then impeached a second time for inciting an insurrection. He was charged for possessing classified documents and obstructing justice. He was charged for paying for the silence of a porn star. He was charged in georgia for his role in january 6th. He was charged in the District Of Columbia for his role in january 6th. He owes 400 million to the state of new york for defrauding the state through his taxes. And he has been judged a rapist. You want to be perceived, understandably, as credible. So i want to first see if you will pledge to not accept an appointment from donald trump if he is elected again as president. Congressman, i dont, i am not here to testify. Seems like an easy answer. Considering what i just laid out. Im here to talk about the report and the work that went into it. But you dont want to be associated with that guy again do you . Congressman, im not here to offer any opinions about what may or may not happen in the future. So it is fair to interpret that what you just saw, obviously means that what may happen in the future is that robert hur would accept a federal judgeship from the indicted donald trump or serve as the indicted Donald TrumpsAttorney General. Republicans on the committee kept trying to suggest that robert hur would have recommended criminal charges against joe biden if President Biden were just younger. That it was simply joe bidens elderly faulty memory that would make him hard to convict in a courtroom. But the truth of the hur report is that it does not at any point identify a single criminal act that could be prosecuted against anyone at any age. It did not identify a single thing that joe biden did that anyone has ever been prosecuted for and the only classified material that joe biden knew he possessed was exactly the same material that president Ronald Reagan kept when he left the presidency and the Justice Department at that time believed that what president reagan did was perfectly legal and they justified it. President Ronald Reagan kept daily notes during his time in the white house and Vice President joe biden kept similar daily notes during his eight years as Vice President. Those notes would inevitably contain possibly Classified Information. And those notes were deliberately kept by joe biden following the legal precedent set by Ronald Reagan and the Justice Department when Ronald Reagan deliberately kept those same notes. And so the simple facts of the biden case are there was no criminal prosecution because there was absolutely nothing that was even close to a criminal act. Democrats used the hearing today to remind america what it is like when the possession and handling of classified material is criminal. In your investigation, did you find that President Biden directed his lawyer to lie to the fbi . We identified no such evidence. Did you find that President Biden directed his lawyer to destroy classified documents . No. Did you find that President Biden directed his personal assistance to move boxes of documents to hide them from the fbi . No. Did you find that President Biden directed his Personal Assistant to delete Security Camera footage after the fbi asked for that footage . No. Did you find that President Biden showed a classified map related to an ongoing Military Operation to a Campaign Aide who did not have clearance . No. Did you find that President Biden engaged in a conspiracy to to obstruct justice . No. A scheme to conceal . No. Each of those activities describes what donald trump did in his Woe Mishandling of Classified Information and attempts to deceive the fbi. Congresswoman madeline dean forced robert hur to make the case against donald trump by reading what the report says about the trump case. Unlike the evidence involving mr. Biden, the allegations set forth in the indictment of mr. Trump would present serious aggravating facts. Keep going. Congressman, im happy to have you read the words. It is your report so they are more fitting you lead them. After being given multiple chances to remove the documents, mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. Keep going. According to the indictmentings he not only refused to return the documents for many months but obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and lie about it. And we have new information about Donald Trumps handling of government owned documents and classified documents from the witness who special prosecutor jack smiths indictment identifies as trump employee number five. That employee, bryan butler said in a cnn interview that he helped trump codefendant move some of the boxes from florida to new jersey. We got to the airport. I ended up loading all the luggage i had and he had a bunch of boxes. You noticed that he had boxes. Oh yeah, they were the boxes in the indictment. The white bankers boxes. Thats what i remember loading. Did you have any idea at the time there was potential u. S. National security secrets in the boxes . I had no clue. He explained why he is speaking out now publicly. Well, i mean, it has been almost a year since fbi agents showed up at my house when my wife was at home. And you know, over the course of the last year, emotionally it has been a roller coaster. The judge says he will release the names of the witnesses. You know. You go from highs and lows in this. And, instead of just waiting for it to just come out, i think it is better that i get to at least say what happened. Then it coming out in the news. People calling me like crazy. I would rather just get it out there. And bryan butler offered this account of donald trump sharing Classified Information with an australian billionaire. I believe it was april of 2021. There was a member, anthony pratt, who, he was coming. He flew in the night before. He is an australian billionaire. He finishes his meeting with the former president. Gets in the car. And his Chief Of Staff says how did the meeting go . Pratt without saying just says he told me and it would be, you know, u. S. Military Classified Information of what he told him about russian submarines and u. S. Submarines. And that is really all i remember hearing and i went what . Im thinking this. Im in the car. Im like, did i just hear that . So it wasnt like oh the meeting went well. He went straight to the point. He told me that the u. S. Subs and the russian subs, and something that would more than likely in my mind be classified. Leading off our discussion is Congresswoman Madeline Dean and congressman swalwell. They served in the second Impeachment Trial of donald trump. Congresswoman dean, one of the things that strikes me about the hur report that i find so unrelentingly strange is that he keeping referring to a possible presentation of the evidence in this report to a jury. And how a jury might perceive it. When in fact, there is nothing in the report that could ever possibly be present today a jury. And this notion of how a jury would perceive President Bidens memory or understanding of how he was handling the documents. Just could not be more absurd with an Evidence Base that never comes close to rising to a chargeable offense. And that is exactly what he says in that report. Im so pleased to be with you. But also with eric tonight. Eric, you and i have been comrades on the Judiciary Committee for a few years now and i am luckier to know you. In terms of the language of the report, and lawrence, i think you will enjoy this. And i bet you paid attention to it. Did you notice that when ever mr. Hur got caught in something, he slipped to passive voice. So for example, when eric said to him about photographic memory, or whatever the exact word was, he said that is the language of the report. Not his report. Not his language. So im somebody who pays attention to that kind of thing. But lets remember where this all began. Where it began was the very first sentence of the entire more than 200 page report. Quote. And this is mr. Hurs language. We conclude that no criminal charges are warranted in this matter. And lawrence, you saw in the report, that same statement is paraphrased over and over and over again. Sadly, i think the report has very little credibility because beyond that, the evidence wasnt there. What was mr. Hur trying to say . And congressman swalwell, the use of the word willful. That President Biden willfully possessed classified documents. It is such a misleading thing for the general public to get only that and not have included in that, that the only documents that he willfully possessed, that he knew he possessed, that he deliberately possessed were his own handwritten notes which is exactly what Ronald Reagan did with his own handwritten notes and that was considered when Ronald Reagan did it by the Justice Department to not be criminal and they made no attempt to get those notes back from Ronald Reagan. And that is very telling, lawrence. But also, when you read the transcript, you see, you know, the president has a clear handle on what was unaccounted for and he explains it as his staff, you know, were largely responsible. Is he such a kind person, he said aim not trying to throw the staff under the bus here. But my notes, the only ones i handled. And i think this is such a perfect side by side of two people. So put aside, you know, what you believe Donald Trumps intent was to take National Security marked material. Different than handwritten materials. These are marked as National Security materials that he possessed. Take away what you believe his intent was. We have two individuals who have classified materials at their property. One of them does everything to return the materials. Allow it is fbi to search the house just to be careful and safe. Sits down for five hours of interviews over two days. The other person does everything to conceal, directs others to lie and obstruct about it and even if he did all of that, that he can do it anyway because he believes he is a king. It is a real test of character and how both individuals handle it. Lets listen to the demonstrations of Donald Trumps memory that the democratic side of this hearing was able to put in evidence in the hearing today juxtaposed to what the hur report says about President Bidens memory. Lets listen to this. Your next wife was a woman by the name of marla maples. Right. And, sitting here today, do you recall what years you were married to ms. Maples . Um i would have to get the exact dates for you. You married your wife in january of 2005. James webb. I dont remember the name. I dont remember the name. You dont remember . I dont remember that. I remember you telling me. But i dont know that i said it. Congresswoman dean, evidence like that along with the revelations that were the night before, that cnn interview of mr. Butler about loading boxes to get them to new jersey and all the other incriminating information that he revealed that we did not know until he revealed that, all of that coming together at the same time as this hearing. It is really very sad. We could be all kinds of emotions. But, it is sad the former president has come out as such a person of lacking of any decency. Certainly his memory is slipping. He has been under a 40count indictment for all of the things he has done in terms of the documents at maralago. So the contrast is extraordinarily striking. And mr. Hur in his record alone, he himself, and that is why i asked him to read part of his report. Points out the stark contrast between the two gentlemen and how they handle documents. Donald trump cannot tell you when he married any of his wives or how long he was married to any of his wives or how long he has been married to his third and current wife. He doesnt know that. That is not information he knows and you can be absolutely certain there will never be a headline anywhere about that failure of Donald Trumps memory. And lawrence, he referred in a clip i played to september 11 as 7 11. He stumbles all the time. And the difference between joe biden being asked the day after israel is attacked about something that happened years ago, and having a clear memory of most things, so clear that special Council Called it photographic, and donald trump, not only does donald trump have memory issues, he is dangerous and he is under indictment and he is a narcissist. And we cant hammer this point home enough for the American People. Representatives madeline dean and Eric Swalwell, thank you very much for joining us tonight. My pleasure. Thank you. Good to be with you. Coming up tonight, joe biden easily secured enough delegates for the democratic president ial nomination. He did that before donald trump secures the delegates for the republican nomination. Simon rosenberg will join us next. Ination. Simon rosenberg will join us next. Migraine attacks, all in one. Dont take if allergic to nurtec. Allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. 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