Time to consider the charges against donald trump and make up your own mind, what we tried to do in the book, in our commentary and insider tips and the cast of characters is made this is easily digestible and understandable as possible for lawyers and nonlawyers alike. We understand that there are various rationales for the decisions that were made by prosecutors and we tried to reveal those in this book. And again, as part of that educative mission we have tried in this hour to explain some of those choices and the implications of all of these delays in their we are so grateful to all of you for joining us for this hourlong special. We really appreciate it. I am melissa my. I am Andrew Wiseman. Good night. Am Andrew Wiseman. Good night. A good evening once again. I am stephanie ruhle. We are now 200 85 days away from the election and you are in luck. Tonight we have a very special nightcap we are going to get to in just a moment featuring an amazing lineup of student journalists. First, we have to break down some news of the day, starting with Fulton County da willis. She will remain on the trump Georgia Election interference case. Today a judge ruled that she could stay if nathan wade, a special prosecutor willis had a relationship with, stepped down. Hours after the decision by the judge wade did in fact just that. Here is my colleague, blaine alexander, with more. Reporter he was front and center when willis announced her criminal indictment of donald trump. Tonight, nathan wade, the man leading the prosecution against the former president for allegedly trying to overturn georges Election Results has resigned. The culmination of a monthlong spectacle after one of trumps codefendants, michael roman, exposed a romantic relationship between wade and Fulton CountyDahi Fani Willis who hired wad on the case. Roman accused fani willis a financially benefiting from her relationship with wade after the two went on vacations together while working the case. In a ruling today scott mcafee said while he did not find an actual Conflict Of Interest in the case he did find a significant appearance of impropriety that infects the current structure of the Prosecution Team and gave willis an ultimatum. Either she and her office leave the case or wade. In a letter wade writes today he is resigning to move this case forward as quickly as possible point for willis, todays ruling is a legal victory but a professional blow following the stunning to our testimony. It is a lot. It is a lot. Judge scott mcafee scolding what he called her, unprofessional manner, on the stand. While not dismissing the case pr out right as the defense had asked mcafee takes willis to task over this tremendous lapse in judgment. Tonight trumps Attorney Says he will use all Legal Options available as we fight to end this case. Lets get smarter with the leadoff panel today. Michelle joins us. Luke broadwater, congressional reporter for the New York Times. And harry litman, former u. S. Attorney and former Deputy Assistant attorney general. R lets start with you. Willis stays on the case. What are your big takeaways . Thats the number one take away. But the number two take away is she really absorbed some real haymakers from mcafee and thats not going to go away. Mcafee and she together have given trump and company, but Georgia Republicans in general, its a real mixed brew of politics down there. A club to beat her with and they will continue to do so. Nt you may have the feel from the opinion that kind of puts this n to rest. I dont think it does and i think we are going to continue to hear trump and others shouting from the rooftops about the soundbites that mcafee has supplied. Db the owner is not afraid of it as much as it would appear. You agree with Andrew Wiseman . Even though she can stay on she can voluntarily recuse herself to get all of this noise out of the case. Did he say that . He is one smart guy. The truth is, i do. When you think about it from the Vantage Point of the case, im not phoning her professionally. Shes done an awesome job with the case. A lot of this is unfair. At least overplayed from what she has done. But if you want to say whats best for the case now, removing herself from it would be best for the case now. I know a lot of people will think that is unfair. And maybe it is unfair. If the focus is on moving the case forward it would be better off. She could stay in the chair but turning it over to her staff to handle and staying outside of it i think with the the smartest move. I agree with andrew. What are you hearing out of trouble tonight . We just heard from alexander. Trumps lawyer said he will be sa staying on this, all over this. Im guessing they are already raising money off of it. Of course this is a Split Decision. You have the vision of impropriety. Lets remember, as much as this is a legal argument this is a Split Decision legally. When it comes to the politics it is really, does this look bad . They are essentially saying this is a win for us and that this looks as though fani willis did something that is at least not smart. Directed on a case that is of course dealing with the former president. In the trump world, and in the former president s mind, this looks like something to say we can rally people around this and say this is part of a big witchhunt we can say this is a woman who is at least unprofessional at best. And at worst, unethical. Of course they will continue to call her ethical. So the judge said. Especially when there is that part that says she was in last judgment essentially for her to have nathan wade on this case, it really place to this idea that shes not the best person for this case. Of course when it comes to legally she can stay on this case and trump can continue to say she is someone who should not be leading this case. I think in some ways the politics here really almost outweigh the legal findings here, which is that she can stay on the case. If you are in politics and thinking about this from the lens of that, this just doesnt look good. Harry, new topic. Today thery judge in the Hush Money Trial here in new york delayed the case by a month. What you make of the situation . It seems like almost everybody associating with is frustrated. Starting with the judge. The number one issue is how much time does trump need to process these new papers . Thats a straightforward question that really doesnt have anything to do with how this all happened. And that seems to me there seems to be a little bit there but not a lot. 30 days should do it. Ay but obviously the judge is hot and bothered about this and thinks maybe the u. S. Attorneys office, maybe the da wasnt totally above board. I dont know. There are good reasons that the fdny could have withheld the ny request, which is what they first got from the das office before submitting the subpoena to trump. But he wants to get to the bottom of it and hes obviously peeved. I think that should really give way. The question before him should i be, what does trump now need for due process to process the new stuff . That roshould be a focus. I think a month from what we h know ought to do it. Today sounds like annoyed judges friday. The Election Campaign is now fully underway and all four of trumps criminal cases are delayed for a variety of reasons. What does it all mean for november . Right. My view is if some of these cases are not resolved, and it looks like some of them may not be by the time we get to the election, that that is really a loss for the voters. The voters do not have the ability to analyze all of the evidence in all of these cases. Theres too much information. So they do need to the juries and judges to do that for them. So we are going to go into an election where we dont know whether a potential new president will be guilty or innocent of the crimes that he has alleged to have committed. Thats the situation donald trump wants. He wants to delay. He wants to be elected president again. He can then move to get rid of the federal cases and protections for president s from criminal prosecution. That in his interest. The voters will be going in blind as to whether or not donald trump is in fact guilty of these crimes and will have to make a decision. Luke, are they blind . Do you see a bloating floating voting block out there . I think hes corrupt, but im not quite sure. And i need a Court Decision to help me decide one way or another. You really think there are voters out there in that camp . There arent a lot of these voters. But there is some limited polling that shows that a conviction would move a small amount of the electorate. I agree with you that most people are really locked in on donald trump. Hes either really bad guy or r some sort of hero. There is some small portion of moderate and swing voters who may conviction could affect their votes. Or an acquittal. But i do think, generally speaking, its to everyones advantage to have the fax looked at and vetted by impartial people, by judges and juries and are really here. Where these charges legitimate . Is he guilty new york . Is he guilty in georgia . Is he guilty in Federal Court . Or are these bogus charges . I think you should probably have an opinion on that. One thing i have learned from covering courts over the years is there is nothing like a real good vetting of the evidence in a trial to really get to the bottom of the truth. For sure. Heres some different news. Today mike pence, trumps former vp, went on fox news and said, very clearly, that he would noth support his former boss. Lets take another look. It should come as no surprise that i will not be endorsing donald trump this year. Donald trump is pursuing an articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years. Thats why i cannot in good conscience endorse donald trump in this campaign. Se logically, it is not a surprise. When you think about tim scott, ted cruz, Mitch Mcconnell have lined up for trump. And mike pence, he was his former vp. Is pretty big. Do you think . It would be big if this is a conventional sort of political situation. But mike pence was running for his life in the capital with a crowd of people who were shouting, Hang Mike Pence. Its pretty clear former President Trump had really turned their attention and anger toward him because he would not steal the 2020 election on behalf of trump. So i dont think its that surprising when you look at the set of facts that mike pence is having to deal with. Far apart from the Policy Decisions and the Policy Differences that they may have. You have mike pence, who i think is personally still dealing with the aftereffects of donald trump turning on him. Lets remember, mike pence was a very loyal vice president. He was someone who has had no o daily on him. Trump for years, and years, and years did things that were scandalous. Things that looked like mike pence would naturally disagree with him. But when it came to stealing election thats when they finally found the straw that broke the camels back and he could no longer support him. Its interesting that hes not endorsing him. Its interesting that hes on fox news and willing to say this. Its deftly not surprising. Mitch mcconnell is someone who is poignantly criticizing donald trump. At the end of the day he was, at least for now, still leader of republicans in the senate. So he feels a different way in terms of the future of the party. Like pentz is saying, look, im not doing this. This is not someone im going to back anymore. Its very interesting but not surprising. The phrase, Hang Mike Pence is where he found his redline. Thank you all for starting us off. You at home, dont go anywhere. When we come back it is time for our nightcap and i promise you, weve got an Incredible Group of young journalists. We will talk social media and why Y The Congress Crackdown On Tiktok is just scratching the surface. Later, with information running wild online we will get into the importance of journalism with some of the industry future stars. We will end the week on a high note. If you believe the youth is the key to our future we have stars. The 11th hour is utjust getting underway on a great friday night. Scout is protected by Simparica Trio and hes in it to win it Simparica Trio is the first chew with triple protection. 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With that lets bring in our nightcap. And i could not be more excited about who is joining. The future stars of journalism. Stars across the country who have done amazing work and they havent even graduated college yet. The oh baker joins us. Former spot like Investigations Editor for the Stanford Daily and the youngest ever recipient of the prestigious award. Of the Student Newspaper at the university of North Carolina , chapel hills. Shes here in new york not just to a visit us on the 11th hour but to receive the press association award. Tommy perrone is back with us. His oped team got National Attention for its position on harvard president clotting and Natalia Wilson is here. News and politics reporter for the hill top and howard university. Some of her recent interviews include Stacey Abrams and fani willis. Natalia, what do you think about the potential band . I think this potential ban will have a large impact on Voter Turnout in upcoming elections. I saw firsthand, i entered on the hill, for a lot of offices they are receiving a lot of calls from young voters and also teenagers asking to avoid the ban. I think its important to note that when we are considering what would be important for young voters and how president ial candidates should implement that into their campaign if they want to garner that vote. Do you think those young voters realize why the ban is potentially being put in place . Its not because they feel like the kids are going outside to play baseball because they are on the tiktok, the issue is over National Security. Do you think the young voters realize that . I would say that probably for the most part they are not aware that it is an actual reason thats on the floor. Its kind of unfortunate that they are not aware. I would just hope that they looked further into the issue so that they are able to make an informed decision. What you think about this . Listen, social Media Companies dont use data well. I dont that this is Breaking News to anyone. Of course there is the overtone here. I dont think you mean they dont use it well, they are not using it for good purposes. They are using it very well, very sophisticated. But they are not doing so for ends that many people would deem good. But its not just tiktok. Its not just tiktok. On one hand, i get it. Its a Chinese Company and that plays into a greater narrative that has legs to it. At the same time, im sitting here thinking facebook has more data, uses it with greater sophistication and historically we have many more cases in which they have used it poorly. Thats not to say that tick tock is in a National Security threat. But it is to say, and there was a great piece in the atlantic from jonathan last week, about what social media and phones in general, digital life what it has done to childhood. That, to me, is obviously one of the prime causes of the Youth Mental Health crisis and a variety of other pressing issues. That, to me, is what i would like to see congress thinking more deeply about. Weve had tons of hearings about how big tech uses monopoly power, how big tech makes people selfconscious of their bodies and their appearances. This goes so much deeper than just selfimage. Its fundamentally about the way that childhood works and how we relate to one another. Its a little bit hard to listen to people rattle on about ticktock when there is this fundamental crisis in american childhood thats producing crises in American Adults now. But of course those hearings are just great big ente