Tonight on the reidout and remember this, remember this, joe biden is a great threat to our democracy. Hes a tremendous threat to our democracy. Trump over the weekend doing his best George Orwell trying to turn the tables on his own autocratic plans by claiming joe biden is a threat to democracy. Meanwhile, the selfprofessed billionaire apparently doesnt have enough cash to secure a bond in his civil fraud case. Also tonight, the family of a liberal icon was furious that an award given in her name is be handed to the likes of elon musk and Rupert Murdoch, and tonight theres an update on this story. Plus, Nikole Hannahjones at the table tonight on how the right has hijacked the term color blindedness, not to advance racial progress but rather to reverse it. But we begin tonight with a sad and terrifying reality that we face in america. Namely that a mad man is running for president. And too many people are pretending that that is not the case. Americans seem to be numb to the ramblings of a man who quotes adolf hitler approvingly, vows to terminate the constitution, and open Migrant Internment Camps on u. S. Soil and who is promising to throw the doors open to the d. C. Federal prison and release thousands of violent criminals who ransacked our capitol, Smeared Fichies on the wall, and violently assaulted Police Officers on january 6th, 2021. Donald trump opened his Campaign Rally this weekend with republican hopeful Bernie Moreno who may or may not have a profile on an adult website. With this new Creepily Fascist Version of the National Anthem. Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the horribly and unfairly treated january 6th hostages. Oh say can you see oh, but please dont do the black National Anthem or kneel or the magas might go nuts. Trump did more than just salute these criminals. That is not all he did. He also promised those pardons for these lawfully incarcerated insurrectionists. You see the spirit from the hostages, and thats what they are, hostages. They have been treated terribly. And very unfairly. And you know that. And Everybody Knows that. And were going to be working on that sooner, the first day we get into office, were going to save our country, going to work with the people to treat those unbelievable patriots, and they were unbelievable patriots and are. Than came this word salad. Were going to put a 100 tariff on every single car that comes across the line. And youre not going to be able to sell those. If i get elected. Now, if i dont get elected its going to be a bloodbath. Thats going to be the least of it. Its going to be a bloodbath for the country. Theyre not going to sell those cars. If this election isnt won, im not sure youll ever have another election in the country. Which led to a weekend of useless speculation whether he meant real blood, which is kind of beside the point at this point, since he is actually being prosecuted at the state level and at the federal level for fomenting an actual insurrection that caused a lot of blood. That actually caused the deaths of at least five people. There was at least one person who testified, a Police Officer, that she was literally slipping in pools of blood on january 6th. So the question of whether he meant actual blood seems a bit besides the point at this point. But whats much more important is what this maniac is actually vowing to do if elected again. On day one, my administration will terminate every open border policy of the biden administration. We will begin the largest domestic deportation operation in american history. Larger than that by far of dwight eisenhower. You know, eisenhower had a similar problem, but peanuts by comparison. What he isnt telling you is eisenhowers plan was actually labeled with the iconically racist term operation wetback. It actually led to a lot of Human Rights Abuses and actual deaths. And that is what trump is promising us in 2025. A mass roundup targeting anyone who looks like an undocumented migrant, and trumps minions like Stephen Miller are gleefully bragging trump will unlease the military in chicagos like new york and chicago, or maybe hell get creative and deputize his gang affiliates and the proud boys, the oath keepers, stand back and stand by. Am i right . Who better to spot suspicious looking brown people. If you are or look hispanic, heads up even if you are a citizen and even latin maga. Enrique tarrio, if i were you, i would be doubly careful so you dont wind up where you started and also deported. Trump is also threatening to round up and Deport Anyone who has participated in protests against israels siege of gaza, which is something to note. And this mad man whose brain is clearly addled and little more than a ball of smooth clay at this stage of its deterioration makes these promises to feed chum to a base that has been drilled by rightwing media to now care more about stopping migrants even if they themselves live thousands of miles from the southern border than about the economy or inflation or literally Anything Else, according to gallup. We are literally becoming hungary, and continuing to entertain his super fans and keep their Blood Pressure sufficiently high, that theyll run to the polls on the single day of voting he has decrees in november, he has added to his previous naziisms about vermin and poisoning the blood of the country, the idea that black and brown migrants are not even people. I would do the same thing, if i had prisons that were teeming with ms13 and all sorts of people that they have to take care of for the next 50 years, young people, theyre in jail for years, if you call them people. I dont know if you call them people. In some cases theyre not people in my opinion. These are bad, these are animals. And republicans in washington have literally nothing to say about all of this. Other than to defend his violent rhetoric, like polly pocket Speaker Of The House mike johnson who not only said about legitimizing the authoritarian demagogue also known as his boss, he repeated the language. Its now down to mike pence of all people, who trump tried to get hanged on january 6th, 2021, to have the guts to say he wont support him. Pence along with four dozen of trumps former Cabinet Members plus liz cheney and the never trump republicans are trying to tell you not to let this man anywhere near the oval office again. And they would know because they actually know him. And this madman, donald trump, seems to view threatening civil war as the backup plan to avoiding prison if he loses to joe biden again. Joining me is michael fanone, former d. C. Metropolitan Police Officer and author of hold the line, the insurrection and one cops battle for americas soul. And stuart stevens, political strategist and Senior Adviser to the lincoln project. Michael fanone, thank you for being here. Lets talk about this, because there were a few things about this that literally infuriated me as i listened to donald trump in ohio over the weekend. But one of the most galling was his promise to release into American Civil Society hundreds, and at this point, more than 1,000 incarcerated january 6th defendants. Let me play what you said about those people and you confronted one of them who is now incarcerated for trying to assault you. This is how you testified before congress. On that day, i participated in the defense of the United States capitol from an armed mob, an Armed Mob Of Thousands determined to get inside. Because i was among the vastly outnumbered group of Law Enforcement officers protecting the capitol and the people inside it, i was grabbed, beaten, tased, all while being called a traitor to my country. I was at risk of being stripped of and killed with my own firearm, as i hurt chants of, kill him with his own gun. I could still hear those words in my head today. One of the men who did that to you is named daniel rodriguez. Hes serving 12 years. 12 years and seven months behind bars. Trump says hes going to let him out. What do you make of his plan to do that . Its outrageous. But again, i think we have all said the word outrageous, disgusting, disgraceful so many times when it comes to donald trump and the things that he says and does. I just think its important that we reiterate to americans potential Trump Supporters who these people are, who the individuals incarcerated for their crimes on january 6th are. These are individuals who violently attacked Law Enforcement officers at the capitol. If thats something you support, is the release of those individuals, i think you have got more issues than just your supporting donald trump. I mean, you served as a Law Enforcement officer. You were doing your job. It actually wasnt your job. You were a metropolitan Police Officer, not a capitol officer. When you hear donald trump, hes now changed the National Anthem. He doesnt play the regular National Anthem or get something to sing the National Anthem. He plays those people who are locked up for assaulting you and other officers. He plays that as the National Anthem and then does this announcement about the wrongfully incarcerated hostages. He uses the term hostages. Just as a former Law Enforcement officer, how do you feel when you hear that . I mean, it pisses me off. Again, i think we have to look beyond donald trump and his rhetoric. He says these things because it resonates with his base. And who is his base . You know, i think these are americans who do not appreciate or understand democracy. They dont care about our constitutional republic. These are people who believe wholeheartedly that the ends justify the means. They want to win. They dont care about the diverse opinions of other americans, their fellow countrymen. Their only concern is winning and forcing their view or their idea of what america is on the rest of us. Yeah. Stuart stevens, the other piece of this is that it is incredibly ironic that people who are claiming that millions of undocumented migrants are coming over the border, specifically to commit crimes and murder people, when those people literally are desperate for work and a lot of them are paying smugglers so they have to work, so they have to look for jobs and doing all the Construction Work and all the agricultural work. Theyre now cheering the idea that actual criminals who are on tape and who were dumb enough to live stream their crimes, who were caught in some cases because their own Family Members turned them in, who beat and savaged Police Officers and were proud of it at the time, while waving the trump flag with the american flag. I guess they dont know which one is the Actual National flag, those people would then be released to the the general population. I recall thats what happened in haiti. The gangs in haiti, the first thing they did was open the jails and release 3500 of the hardest core members of their gangs. The most violent members of their gangs, and put them in the street to terrorize people. Donald trump is saying hes going to do that. And this is supported, i guess, by the Republican Party leadership. Yeah, first, i have never had a chance to thank michael. I would just like to do it personally. That was extraordinarily courageous stand that you and your other officers took. And if you havent read his book, it really is a hell of a book. And everybody should go out and read it. It is. You know, i joined a party that said it believed in law and order. Thats just a farce now. You know, michael is right. Its really not about donald trump. Its about the whole Republican Party and the people who are supporting trump. And you cant say that these people dont have information. They dont have they have to listen to fox or they have to listen to some lunatic on oan or go down some rabbit hole on the internet. They have the same ability to discern, to make decisions. Theres a lot more information out there now than any time before in the history of the country. And yet, its really about values. And this is why i call this book i wrote it was all a lie because i dont know any other conclusion to come to that you say all these things we said in the Republican Party, character counts, law and order, support the blue, all of these things. They were Just Marketing slogans. And when push comes to shove, most Republican Leaders have just either supported it or quietly stepped aside, which is the same thing. What do you think theyre getting . What does Mitch Mcconnell get out of endorsing this . What do any of those people get . Mike pence, he was the most Sycophantic Trump supporter there was, even he says its too much. What do they think theyre getting out of this . Its extraordinarily important question. You know, one thing you can say about most politicians is they have really big egos which doesnt bother me. So do musicians, actors. You think they would stop and think, how are they going to remember me in history . You cant say Mitch Mcconnell is doing it to win his next primary, yet he wont even say Donald Trumps name aloud. He could have brought an end to this, if he had supported convicting the president of impeachment, he would have been convicted. And he went out and gave that speech. I think its sort of a complete collapse of a party that has convinced itself that there is some other evil that is worth sacrificing their own values for. And they get together and they all you know, mobs like comfort. And they tell themselves this is what we have to do. And you know, it takes i have to give pence credit, i have never been a mike pence fan, but you know, hes done the right thing here. And just not many other Republican Leaders have. Yeah. If mike pence is braver than you, youre in trouble. Just as a former Law Enforcement professional, walk me through what happens when people who have been convicted of violence crimes, not just regular crimes, not just trespassing, the people in prison, theyre the most violent of the insurrectionists. What does it look like when theyre free as a bird and pardoned . First of all, it sends a message to anyone who has committed acts of violence on behalf of the former president that you will be supported and ultimately pardoned or released from prison. So its carte blanche, if you want to go out and commit acts of violence as long as youre doing it for donald trump, you have got no, at least no criminal culpability, no fears of prosecution. I mean, as a former Law Enforcement officer, someone who was there on january 6th, the message that it would send to me and to the Police Officers like myself that responded that day, our country has betrayed us. And that your sacrifices are not valued. And you know, its not the first time that i have encountered those feelings as a cop. But having it sanctioned by the president of the United States, to me, is a bridge too far. Not something that i can live with. Would you feel safe knowing that members of the proud boys, oath keepers, Three Percenters and Boogaloo Boys have been accused of directly shooting Police Officers, would you feel safe with those guys looking for migrants in a city you lived in . Absolutely not. These are vigilantes. I think its important, too, we go back and look at the makeup of many of these individuals. These guys like the guys that assaulted me, daniel rodriguez, kyle young, albuquerque, they had criminal histories before they went to the capitol that day. They werent lawabiding citizens. Many individuals had prior convictions for Domestic Violence abuse, assault, you know, drug trafficking, narcotics crimes, possession. All of these different crimes. These were not upstanding lawabiding citizens to begin with. So the idea that you would have them playing a role as Law Enforcement officers in this country is outrageous. And that is one of the two major candidates for president is promising to do. 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