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MSNBCW Jose July 3, 2024

Good morning. Happening right now, tensions are es escalating on College Campuses across the country. We saw clashes in madison, wisconsin. Joining us now, cat carol, managing editor at the badger harold, joining us from the University Of Wisconsin campus. Good morning. What happened there this morning and what is it like right now . Good morning, thank you for having me. Around 7 15 this morning, police officers, Law Enforcement from the university police, the Wisconsin State Patrol and state and county and Madison Police that the encampment would be taken down and they remained on site until about 9 00 a. M. They left all tents. They left tables up with supplies and water for protesters. All tents were removed. Over a dozen individuals were arrested. And the police have left, some Campus Police are patrolling the area, but there are a couple of tents that have gone back up since police left. And so, cat, this when did this intensify. I understand that a lot of those students and the protesters have been there since at least monday. What is it looking like now . Yes, so it is definitely intensified this morning. It has been peaceful, it was peaceful all day yesterday, and on day monday, protesters stayed overnight monday night and tuesday night and then this morning around 7 15, thats when officers came and thats when things intensified. And so, you were saying that the police, the majority of them actually stepped back. What can we expect for the rest of the day . Yeah, well, University Spokespeople have not yet given information about what the rest of the day will look like. But the encampment is gone and thats why university why Police Stepped back, so im not sure what the rest of the day looks like. Looks like police are patrolling to ensure safety, but protesters have said they put up new tents. Cat carol, thank you for being with us this morning. Very much appreciate it. Thanks. Thank you. And overnight, in Columbia University, in new york, police entered the campus and cleared a building that had been occupied by protesters. We should note the school said the occupation of Hamilton Hall was led by people not affiliated with the university. In los angeles, protests turned violent on counterdemonstrators clashed with propalestinian protesters at the university of california. Joining us from Columbia University is nbcs rehema ellis live from the university of north carolina, sam brock joining us from ucla, liz kreutz. What is it like on campus today . A very intense overnight. Reporter yeah, like night and day, quite honestly, jose. Behind me is one of the entrances to Columbia University from Amsterdam Avenue and there are no drums, no bullhorns, no chanting, no screaming. It is an orderly flow into that campus and out of that campus. People have to show their campus Identification Cards in order to enter the campus. And it is very different from what it was a few days ago. You point out that nypd officers were invited on to this campus after the University Officials say that they had been engaged in talks with students. The students broke down and it was the occupation of Hamilton Hall which is right behind me and that led to them saying that there had been vandalism, trespassing and they were afraid there was going to be some sort of physical harm to students on campus. So, they invited them in, mayor adams talked about what it was like going in as the president of Columbia University said this operation had been coopted by outside agitators. Mayor adams says something very similar. Take a listen. Many people thought that this was a just a Natural Evolution of a protest, it was not. These were professionals that were here. Reporter he says professionals that were here. According to the mayor, he says there is a movement to radicalize young people and it is happening with influences from outside forces. We should tell you that once the occupation of nypd officers began yesterday, in the evening, about 9 00, it was over in about two hours, police said. According to the mayor, there were no major injuries and no violent clashes. He says nypd is trained for years to engage in these kind of events, and they were able to execute this in an orderly way and without involving students in major injuries. What have they been charged with . Trespassing, criminal mischief and burglary. Were told there are about 300 arrests from the campus here at Columbia University and City University up the street from here, about 40 to 50 people, were told, were taken out of the Hamilton Hall, which is behind me. And according to the university, theyre asking nypd officers to remain on campus for the next few weeks as they try to get through the graduation ceremonies. Jose . And, liz, so lets go to the west coast, after a violent clash overnight at ucla. How are things today . Reporter well, hey, jose, yeah, i mean, things are really calm here right now compared to what it was like overnight. It was absolute chaos here as counterprotesters showed up and tried to make their way into the encampment here, violent clashes broke out between these two protests and we saw images of some of these counterprotesters allegedly throwing fireworks into and around the encampment, some students here said they witnessed pepper spray and tear gas being used, some students hitting each other with poles and sticks and the number one thing were hearing from so many students on all sides is why did it take so long for any kind of security or Law Enforcement to come and break this break up the groups . It took hours before finally police arrived. The mayor of l. A. Tweeted, okay, were bringing in lapd, lapd showed up, chp and the Sheriffs Department and there is a heavy Police Presence here now. They did not come here, though, to tear down the encampment. That is still allowed to remain as of now. It is day seven here. These students were told by Ucla Last Night before this altercation that what theyre doing is unlawful and essentially said youre going to need to leave, but did not give a timetable for it. So as of now, the encampment remains. Ucla has been trying to allow them to be here to not bring in a Police Presence like we have seen at other campuses, but in turn then we have seen these clashes like we saw overnight. And so the question now is how long are they going to let this stay here. Will they let the students stay here overnight and if, so, how are they going to make sure it stays safe, jose . And, sam, yesterday we saw violent clashes at chapel hill. Reporter unlike what liz is seeing now on uclas campus, there is no encampment here. Days of friction on the campus led to a boiling of sorts yesterday. It came after the University Said you have advanced warning, were going to dissolve this encampment that was in effect for five days. You dont see a single tent. The only vestige of what happened yesterday that is still left is this barrier erected along the flagpole here and that, jose, is because propalestinian demonstrators had taken down the american flag, and replaced it with the palestinian flag. This went back and forth, several times over the course of hours. As far as detainments and arrests, there was a total of 36 yesterday. Of the 36, 30 of them were cited for trespassing and released on the spot. But of them, ten were unc students, 20 were not, as we talk about that dynamic between how many of these protesters are actually students versus folks coming in from the outside. Then you had another six people that were taken to the local magistrates office, three of them were formally charged with trespassing. I want to read you a statement from the Interim Chancellor here, lee roberts, who spoke after the situation calm down, about what the upshot of all this is. He said, no one has the right to disrupt Campus Operations materially nor to threaten or intimidate our students nor damage or destroy public property. Previous protests this year have concluded peacefully and without arrests. That changed sunday evening when protesters back tracked on their commitment to comply with the policies. We must consider the physical safety of all of our students, faculty and staff. In addition we are alarmed at the rising accounts of Antisemitic Speech and we categorically denounce this and any other incidents of prejudice. Things are calm on campus. Im standing in the middle of the quad. It is the balance and fine line that so many universities are trying to establish, not just between freedom of speech versus public safety, but also the idea you walk around campus there is families here and students taking their graduation pictures. Theyre getting ready for final exams. Juxtapose against the chaos were seeing on campuses across the country and it continues. Sam, the u. S. Is the flag that is flying right behind you . Reporter sure is. And i would add, jose, when they restored it for a second time, there were just quite a striking moment, chants of usa, usa, dozens upon dozens of students locked in arms as this went back up and the universitys Interim Chancellor was out here as well, overseeing that process. They wanted to make sure there was not going to be another example of this flag coming down again. Rehema ellis, sam brock and liz kreutz, thank you very much. Joining us now is jessica schwab, a junior at Columbia University, jessica, thank you for being with us this morning. You were there and you actually filmed when protesters broke into Hamilton Hall. You were there last night. Take us back to, well, that first series and then what you saw last night. Yes, so i arrived at Hamilton Hall not really knowing what to expect until i saw a crowd accumulate and then i saw students who were already inside Hamilton Hall, they seemed to have, like, sleeping bags, bags that made it seem as though they were going to be staying inside Hamilton Hall. And then i saw a student bash the windows in with a hammer and then proceed to put a bike lock around the outdoor door handles and then zip tie the other door handles of the second door at Hamilton Hall and then students were Shoving Furniture up inside to barricade the inside, and then shoving tables, very heavy metal tables with groups of propalestinian protesters, and they were putting them as an Outer Barricade and then taking more tables, zip tieing those two together and just to compound that barricade and using human chain as a third barricade. So, jessica, a few times you said i saw students breaking in, i saw students moving this. Are you certain that the ones that were actually breaking and entering were students . I noticed some of them were students, their faces did look familiar. And there were certainly people there who were not students, they almost seemed like professional burglars, which made it even more scary because they dont have anything to lose, and so, when youre dealing with a situation like that, there is so much unpredictability, and they dont care for the safety of the university or the sanctity of its property. So, that just heightened the level of fear. Jessica, how do you feel at columbia . Do you feel safe . Have you felt safe . Recently this past week i have not felt safe. It has been a very tense, very scary atmosphere. However, last night, when i noticed that the tents had come down, it felt like i could breathe deeply again knowing there wasnt this Constant Space of animosity and, like i said, unpredictability about how people were going to view you, if you werent wearing a mask and you should be allowed to wear whatever you would like without being antagonized for your beliefs and have equal access to the spaces on campus that we all pay for. I just how do you feel, how do you process this as a student, you know . Youre studying, this the 15th of this may, 1st of may today, some students are going to be graduating, what is it like . It is very tough. It is extremely distracting. I was speaking to one student and she was trying to study for her mcats and said three protesters came into Butler Library with a megaphone, yelling free palestine, and, you know, we could have noise canceling headphones, but their chants, you can hear very, very clearly, it is extremely disruptive, and, again, a lot of the jewish students on campus, they have decided, some not to come, and some to take their classes virtually and others they deal with the fear and choose to remain on campus because they dont want to reward these protesters scare tactics. It is an extraordinary State Of Affairs that were living through. I want to also congratulate you, jessica, the work that youve done, what youve been filming, the way youve filmed it, it all has been very, very important and i thank you. Thank you for being with us today. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Up next, one of the countrys most restrictive Abortion Bans go into effect today in florida. Why that will shut down Abortion Access to millions outside the state as well. Overseas, new details about negotiations over a ceasefire deal in gaza as israels Prime Minister meets with Secretary Of State blinken. And later, a look ahead to tomorrows gag order hearing in trumps criminal hush money trial. Were back in 60 seconds. Youre watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. Youre watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. Nothing dims my light like a migraine. With nurtec odt, i found relief. The only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. To those with migraine, i see you. For the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of Episodic Migraine in adults. Dont take if allergic to nurtec odt. Allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. Most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. Its time we all shine. Talk to a Healthcare Provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. 15 past the hour. Today, a controversial abortion ban is officially in effect in florida. Further restricting access for millions of patients across the south. It bans abortions at six weeks before many women know theyre pregnant. It prevents doctors from prescribing Medication Abortions through telehealth or mail. The ban has exceptions for victims of rape, incest or human trafficking, up to 15 weeks of pregnancy as well as an exception to save the life of the mother. Joining us now, nbc news correspondent marissa parra. You have spoken to clinics that were scrambling to see patients before today. What did you learn . Reporter well, what i learned is every single Abortion Clinic i spoke to across the state, whether the smaller clinics or larger clinics like the Planned Parenthood behind me, every single one of them described from the moment that decision dropped, the state Supreme Court on april 1st, they all have been scrambling to squeeze in as many appointments as possible, knowing very well on may 1st they would not be able to provide the same care. So, many of them describing working double time, if not, you know, working through lunch, putting in long hours and describing the longer hours, describing it filling their rooms to max capacity ahead of what we knew was coming. So, what is interesting, jose, today is the first day of the new law, but we started seeing the impacts yesterday because in florida, if you dont know, it is a twovisit minimum. You have the consultation on one day, 24hour waiting period and after that 24 hours can you receive the medication or the procedure. And so, it was yesterday that they had to start turning any woman away who was beyond six weeks and then today, of course, were now seeing that official law go into effect. And there are exceptions for things like incest, rape, fetal abnormalities, the life of the mother, but i just finished an interview with a physician, she provides not just abortion care, she also provides care for high risk pregnancies. So she has a lot of experience in this realm. I asked her about the exceptions to the law. I said, im curious, do you feel like it protects physicians and the mothers enough . And she said the simple answer is no. Take a listen to what she said. If we have these exceptions that are very, very narrow, that absolutely dont encapsulate or speak true lived medical circumstances and that come with them threats of persecution, prosecution, fines, imprisonment, loss of license, well, of course, physicians and Healthcare Systems arent going to want to risk that. Reporter now, jose, this is the first day of the new law here in the state of florida, but this has far greater impacts across the region. When you look at the map of Abortion Laws as they stand today, you will see that the states surrounding the state of florida have very strict bans. Were talking about either a total ban or a near total ban. So, up until this week, we would see, flor

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