Shes crazy. And she also wants the jurors to judge her for her occupation. The peoples witness apparently holds her own. She said, if i was going to make this up, i wouldve made it a much better story. Tonight, The Cross Examination of the woman at the center of the coverup trumps denial of the fair hurt his defense. The denial puts the jury in the position of trying to choose who they believe. The relics i cause the defendant to storm off. Im not supposed to be here. We are so innocent. Is a sitting republican senator help skirt the judges gag order . This is a bunch of democrats saying, we want to make sure that donald trump cannot talk. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. The manhattan election interference trial rolled on today. There were some fireworks and there was a lot of mudslinging. Some of it even came outside the courtroom, not from trump, but from another florida man. United states republican senator rick scott. A real live senator missing votes to be there. We will have more and what he was doing there and what he said later in the show. Inside the courtroom, as Stormy Daniels finished her second and final day of testimony with three hours of grueling cross examination, trump slurs put most of their energy into painting her essay liar, gold digger, and worst of all is for the defendant, a trump heater. For most of those three hours, Susan Necheles grilled daniels about every source of every penny she made from strip club tours to tv shows to candles. Yes, candles, that portray the Adult Film Star as patron at one point she asked, you were selling yourself to people who hated former President Trump is someone who would get trump indicted, right . She replied, was now selling myself to anyone. I feel duty bound to stop here for a second. You know who was selling themselves this week . You will never guess. For the first time, we are creating a physical trump card. Purchase 47 digital cards, and we will mail you a beautiful trading card thats an authentic piece of the pseudo tour when i took that now famous mug shot and it was a great sue. Believe me. A really good suit. It is cut up and you will get a piece of it. I will autograph some of them. A true collectors item. Something to give to your family and kids and children grandchildren. You will also be invited to join me for a gala dinner at my beautiful maralago. Youve got to get 47 cards, and virtual ones, physical one that has a little bit of a Dice Step Piece of the soup. Like a tiny part of The Shroud Of Turin and you get to walk around with. That dinner that he was hawking a 47 of his Digital Trading cards was held at maralago last night on the off day. Of course. Hes he used similar schemes to promote a sneaker line, Brenda Perfume and cologne and a pricey copy of the by bible. Stormy daniels according to trump slurs are trying to trade on her brand and they argued today she was untrustworthy for defaulting the story of her affair with trump even after being paid up in signing a Nondisclosure Agreement asking her, even though you had agreed you would not discuss the supposed recommend you receive a lot of money for that agreement, you decided you wanted to publicly see you at sex with former President Trump, right . No. Nobody would ever want to publicly say that. She added, wanted to publicly defend myself after people attacking me after Michael Cohen told about the story. Trumps attorneys i should know failed to mention the by the time dennis did speak out about the affair, ted already been reported to the public by the wall street journal. The Trump Legal Team for obvious reasons didnt get the details about the sexual encounter between daniels and her claim because they were still suggesting it never happened. They did talk About Daniels Sex Work implying it made her less credible. After listing her credits, they said, quote, you have a lot of experience making phony stories about sex to which daniels responded, that somehow i would put it. The sex in the films is very much real, just like what happened to me in that room. She tried again saying, now theres a story you are telling about President Trump . Daniels replied, that was untrue, i wouldve written it to be a lot better. Crossexamination when it was over, prosecutor walked daniels back through the facts and redirect and ask, on balance, has your publicly telling the truth about mr. Trump been net positive or net negative for your life . Daniels replied with a single word, negative. After daniels left the stand, jurors heard from two archival witnesses to renew evidence into the record including an executive from harpercollins, published trumps how to book think big, make it happen in business and life. She read several excerpts including the telling one, quote, i just cant stomach disloyalty. I put the people who are loyal to me on a high pedestal and take care them very well. Talking about someone from the past to disappointed him, this woman was very disloyal, now i go out of my way to make her life miserable. He had a, my motto is, always get even. When somebody screws you, screw them back in spades. Thats great writing is a neck . After witnesses were done today, trumps lawyers moved again for a mistrial saying Stormy Daniels testimony was inconsistent and prejudicial that the case could not stand. Judge merchan said once again that if the defense didnt like up, they shouldve objected more during her testimony. That did not sit well with the defendant who could barely wait until he was out of the courtroom to sound off. I dont think we have to do any explaining. Im not allowed to because this judge is corrupt. He is a corrupt judge. This judge, what he did, what his ruling was was a disgrace. He is a corrupt judge and his totally conflicted. I got to get back on the Campaign Trail. Im not supposed to be here. We are so innocent. Theres never been anything like it. The Campaign Trail like dinners at maralago. Judge merchan rejected a request from trump slurs to ease his dayglo ordered so he could respond in public to Stormy Daniels testimony. Joining me, two people at the courthouse today. Legal correspondent lisa rubin, former deputy harry litman, great to have you here. Three Different Things happen today. Stormy Daniels Cross and redirect. The sort of hearing about the mistrial which was interesting. The last witness who got sworn in and will be continuing tomorrow. Lets start with Stormy Daniels. We had around the stand when i talk to you on tuesday. Cross today, how did it go . For whom is the question . I think it went really well for the prosecution. I do. The reason is because while there are small differences in Stormy Daniels story, this was an event that happened in 2006. Its 2024. The fact that Susan Necheles went on, i counted, first seven pages about whether Stormy Daniels was consistent are not about saying whether or not they had dinner, is beside the point. They were nibbling at the margins. At the same time, making her more sympathetic by attacking her for things that were either socially regressive or the same sort of things their own client does. For example, as you said, selling himself. Stormy daniels was selling merchandise. Donald trump sells merchandise all the time in addition to his entities and shreds of his suits, he selling gold sneakers, he selling bibles. Stormy daniels has a tshirt that says team daniels. And they asked what that means. She said anybody who hates donald trump . She said anybody who is basically on my side. The way in which they try to shame her and exploit minor inconsistencies in her story over a period of years, i thought backfired on them. If anything, it made her seem all the more determined and resolute in the details of her story. You were saying she was a compelling witness and you werent sure what the jury made of her because her presentation and her line of work will be fairly new to most people. I dont know. In terms of what she does for a living. You were trying to model what the jury was thinking what is your thinking after watching today . I basically agree with lisa. Trent 40 fans a few jabs. She didnt come close. As a matter of technique, she did a lot shoes should a couple of the. Isnt it a fact . Daniels coolly said false, et cetera. That stopped her in her tracks. This misstep of suggesting, if you work in adult films, you couldnt be cowed by a 60year old billionaire looming over you. I think that was a false note that was offensive. In general, ive got to say, i thought crossexamination, you must control. You want the jury looking at you. If anything, storm he was the dynamic in the room and you could see it from home the jury was looking at. They should be the wall youre hitting the ball. You have it. Controlling where the ball goes. And your controlling the pace. I agree with harry, she was not only a controlling witness but the rare witnesses better on crossexamination than on direct. And direct, she meander. She had her own objective. She wanted to tell her truth that doesnt fit neatly into judge merchans rules. The point you made, you said earlier that the nuts and which i famous line when he was attacking anita hill. An attempt to be like this when she came forward with allegations against clarence thomas. This woman cannot be trusted. He wrote the famous line. Just to both the content or that. Here is Susan Necheles talking to Stormy Daniels. I want to get your reaction. Youve had sex and under 200 movies. And there are naked men and naked women it having sex including yourself. According to you, seeing a man sitting on a bed and a tshirt on backer shares, it was upsetting you got lightheaded and yes, when youre not expecting a man twice your age to be in their underwear, ive seen my husband naked almost every day. If i came out of the bathroom and it was not my husband and it was mr. Trump on the bed, i probably have the same reaction. What did you think of this line of inquiry which is you are a porn star and youre upset about a man trying to have sex with you . Its you are a porn star, how do you think you have the right to have consent . Because of what you do for your line of work, you must have a sign around your neck that basically says open to all. Stormy daniels is clear, in my do the for a living but i choose when i do it for a living and how and when. Not to do it with a 60yearold man who i found repugnant into was looming over me in a way that felt like imbalance of power that i was not into. When talking about that Susan Necheles is conceding that shes got to make it seem the whole thing is fantasy. They never had sex at all but shes asking about details of what she said and didnt say. It was scattershot and she she received what happens when you lead with your chin. This was one more thing. This relates to the hearing. Which was the motion to dismiss. Motion to dismiss on tuesday and it was this tonight. This motion to dismiss was wildly prejudicial. It was outside the bounds. My understanding of that is part of the defense part of the ruling by judge merchan that it stays in because you said it did not happen. I want to come to that but first, this is from the first day, but the line of questioning which is this is your career for over 20 years. Writing and directing . You have a lot of experience in making phony stories about sex . The sex in the films is real just like what happened to me in that room. Youre making stories for sex, you write these. Daniels, no the sex is real. Thats why its pornography. That such a funny line. What i can tell you was that was not funny. That happened today. What i got out of that is the phrase what happened to me. She allowed her, again, to control the narrative and make it about, this is something traumatic that happened to me. Not this thing i participated in willingly. I thought that was impactful. The turn of phrase there, just like what happened to me in that room. When we get to the mistrial, how does that physically happen . Is it sidebar . First of all, in an average trial two or three things happens and i think today was five or six. That was one of them. Argument at the end of the day would be low key. Judge merchan, eviscerated them both of them. I think thats why trump was upset. 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Those who are still that rewith us, yes. Rushing. Grandpa whats this . Your wings. Light em up gentlemen, its a beautiful. Day to fly. Day 14 of trumps 2016 interference election trial. Here with ms. Lisa rubin and harry litman. You were talking at the end of the day there was a hearing. The jury leaves in the judge dressdown trumps lawyers who were petitioning for a mistrial based on Stormy Daniels testimony. 100 . First, they gave their spiel and the da basically said he is not telling the truth. It was as if judge merchan had written an order and memorized it and had it in his head. He told blanche on the cake dish gag order. I cant trust you because of the track record. We are not changing the gag order. When they came to the mistrial, he eviscerated the technique. He said you did not object here. Then, you went and on your cross, you went over this at length. The thing is, you are the one that put this in play because you started out with accusing her of lying in your opening. You did not talk about the records. These messy details, they are what go to motive and you have put his motive at issue by denying the whole thing. Trump, who has forced them into this position, made them untenable and he ripped them. They are saying these details are prejudicial and we should have a mistrial. His responses, and i think we talked about this. Blanche gets up and appears to deny that any of this happened. That they met. Judge merchan said your denial and opening arguments makes all of this relevant. She needs the details to establish your credibility. Blanche kept trying to say this is not the story she told ami or Michael Cohen. And the prosecutor made quick work by saying she never talk to ami or to cohen. In terms of details, the person that knows whether theyre true or not is your client. Exactly. He is the one who has the motive to pay the hush money. The messy details are themselves proof of his motive. Also said this which was interesting. This is from the da, there are other details that i do not want to put on the record. Im happy to make a sealed record about the salacious details that were deliberately omitted. Notwithstanding the fact that they are highly corroborative because we did not have the desire to embarrass the defendant. Can i say it on tv . I never felt a 60yearold before and that was gross. That was something they said. They sat on the sex stuff, we had six questions and these details were about the two or three hours. He cited that is one of the examples. One thing we couldve called out was Stormy Daniels was 27 and did not know what a 60year old mans skin felt like. We couldve elicited that. We did not want to say nevertheless, it came in. Time marches on for all of us. The other thing that happened today, there were a bunch of things, but i want to move to matalin. Maybe you can set up who she was. Trumps Executive Assistant in the white house. She worked for the rnc prior to his election then she became his Roanoke Rapids the white house. She was fired in 2019 because she was invited to what she thought was an off the record dinner with reporters. She allegedly had something to drink and she wasnt discreet by her own admission. She spilled something about the trump daughters and their relationship with her daughter. It was at that point she was let go. That came out today and she was the second former Trump White House aide to cry on the stand about how apologetic she was. Even more than hope hicks, holds this man and very high esteem. She was devastated by the breakup with him and still is. She says spoke highly of him huge respect. He listened to my feedback. She really speaks highly of donald trump. I was struck by that. You do not get a ton of people no. That mistake cost me my job. I feel ive learned from experience and ive grown a lot. She starts crying. Why was she there . What was she there to testify . She was there to stitch up the fedex checks and the back andforth. The president writing the checks from the white house inch her being the person i thought it was effective for him. Other people disagreed. I think they wouldve called her. That wouldve been the risk if the da hadnt. Maybe it was to take the sting out. It was an interesting moment. This book, i think everyone will wonder, how did she talk out of school . If that comes in because something she laid it on thick about, she wrote a Book Of Contrition and confession. It came out that what she had s