That does it for me. Thanks for watching. Ill see you back here next weekend at 5 00 p. M. Eastern. But you can also catch me tomorrow morning on morning joe right here on msnbc starting at 6 00 a. M. Eastern time. Right now is The Sunday Show with jonathan capehart. In denial, donald trump takes a quick break from the courtroom to campaign this weekend and send more signals he will not accept the 2024 president ial Election Results if he loses. Whats worse . His allies are lining up to back him up. Gerry connolly of virginia and ruth join me to discuss trumps latest threat to democracy. Donald trumps former fixer, Michael Cohen, set to take the stand tomorrow against his former boss. Well discuss if this is a make orbreak moment in the hush money interference trial. A little lol from snl. It is also applied that Stormy Daniels got into bed with trump and let him do whatever he wanted just to advance her career. You know, like every republican. Im jonathan capehart. This is The Sunday Show. With less than six months until the most consequential election in our lunchtime. Donald trump and they are refusing to accept the will of the american people. Last night at another rambling and unhinged those in jersey. Indicting 88 counts of the former president , Accusing Biden and his administration of being cheaters. He is only good at cheating at elections. Its not him. Hes surrounded by fascist and the oval office. Its not him. Very good at cheating at elections. That is some nextlevel preductions. And saying that when it comes to challenging results, it is important to follow your heart. Well these remarks seem like your typical miserable muling from trump. Here is why we need to Pay Attention and take him seriously. Just last week he refused to rule out the potential for Political Science if he loses his bid for a second term. He told time magazine, it depends. On the fairness of the election. On wednesday, biden made it clear why these are not just empty threats. This is true. It is the same thing and you might not accept the outcome of your election. I promise you that he wont unless it is dangerous. This time trump has powerful allies that are willing to show that busting plan. House speaker johnson, the key efforts behind efforts to overturn bidens victory in 2020, introduced a new Election Integrity bill this week. A total nonissue since it is illegal in state and federal elections. And also it is extremely rare. Without any evidence, who remains in the job, they said this. And even if you were not concerned about the drop boxes of the mailin ballots in 2020, you should be concerned that they might be voting in 2024. According to the foundation and that behind the project of the thing, they have been tied to noncitizens. This morning, the republican danced around the question of whether they would accept the 2024 Election Results. Yeah, i would accept them. If it is a free and fair election, then they will accept the results. It sounds like they are implying it will be considered free and fair if only trump wins. And governor doug burgum, a potential pick. And that is not democracy, folks. They have either learned nothing or attempts to steal the 2020 election or they were down with it. The same goes for the violent insurrection that featured a chance to hang mike pence or maybe it is possible with trying to subvert the will of the people, which will make them trying it again this november. After all as the saying goes, a failed coop is just practice. Joining me now of california is a member of the House Foreign Affairs committee and the House Oversight and accountability committee. Congressman, welcome back. Great to be here. To The Sunday Show. What does it mean to have a former president and Presumptive Republican nominee . And his allies would refuse to commit the 2024 president ial election . I really think it is a dagger at the heart of the american democracy. And this is truly a critical moment for americans who love their country. We have an absolute look at who will stop at nothing to try to get back in the white house with a lot of enablers among the republican ranks in country. Many have to understand what they represent. Do you have any worry about the possibility of another january 6style insurrection on january 6, 2025 . Unfortunately a number of republicans in congress after january 6 characterized it as tourists who just got a little overexcited. Minimizing and normalizing violence. Trump has never made any secret in his rallies and statement that there is a sub text of violence that is permissible, at least under his banner. So that is a part of the dangers that we face that he is clearly setting the ground for more violence and he gets to decide when, where, why. He doesnt expect trump to accept the Election Results in november. So what is congress doing to prepare . I know youre technically in the minority as a democrat, but what kind of discussions are members having about this if any . We passed one piece of legislation to clarify the role of the ceremonial event after the election and the role of vice president. But that alone is not going to necessarily stop people from challenging the results. When he says it has to be fair and they say that and others, well who gets to decide is fair . They challenged Election Results in over 60 federal courts. They lost every single challenge. And i would call that a strong judgment that was rendered, where the election was fair and was elected president. They still dont accept it. So it is a real warning sign that no matter what, they are not going to accept the results. And on thursday, they warned the foreign adversaries who are influencing the november election. Are we, as a nation, ready for what could be unleashed on the american electorate . I hope so. I look back at election of 2016. This was clear russian influence directly on the Trump Campaign and on social media. And theyve only gotten better at it. We have had republicans in Congress Like the chairman of the House Foreign AffairsCommittee Say that they have colleagues who are russian bots and they are taking material and mainstreaming it on social media. That is a very troublesome development. And that is Marjorie Taylor greene of georgia, but we dont have time to talk about her right now. Jerry connolly of virginia. Thank you very much for coming to The Sunday Show. Thank you. Joining me now to continue this conversation, History Professor at new york city. Hillary clinton was blunt in her assessment of the stakes of the upcoming election during an appearance on morning joe on thursday. Watch. Maybe this will be the last election because someone who will not accept the validity of an election is someone who doesnt believe in elections. He believes in his own power, his own right to power, and his demand that he be installed regardless of whether hell get the votes or not. And ruth, you wrote on x if trump wins, it will be worse on the disaster. The aim is to destroy american around the world. With we are rightfully alarmed. Well because this is somebody who tried to stay in office illegally with a violent coup attempt and still running around, which is very unusual in internationals. Usually people who do what trump did are in jail or forced into exile. The other thing that is notable. Every time he and his enablers might not accept the election or they use this word election kickty. How do i get to power. Thats what they mean to them. And to accept the idea that he might have to deal with the situation. This has been going on for a long time. One of his biggest enablers, the Maga Loyalist who showed up at the Iowa State Fair last summer. He actually said only through force will we bring change to a corrupt town like washington, d. C. So they are playing not only with the idea that we cant accept the election, but also that we need to use violence to change history for the better and that we are freedom and biden is a tyrant. And that will get to what Congressman Connolly just said during our interview where he talked about the sub text of violence that is permissible, and that he, donald trump, decides what level of violence is permissible, which will make this whole situation extremely dangerous. As you well know. But ruth, why then are some republicans falling in line with trump on predenial of the Election Results and his dangerous rhetoric . Im just wondering, is it their own desire for power or are they afraid . Are they afraid to denounce him . A combination of both when you have a party that is enthralled to it a cult leader. Somebody who is very dangerous. Hes a very dangerous individual, and that is coming out in the evidence of the criminal trial. They all know exactly how dangerous he is and how he could, thats been repercussions for anybody who crosses him who doesnt fall into line. And long ago, jeff sessions, a long line of these people. So they have learned that it is best to repeat the talking points. So now we will have Election Integrity. You could hear all about that. And he also, you know, would test them in pun lick. He humiliates them to see how much they would submit to them and he has done that to tim scott and Lindsey Graham. So they are kind of conditioned by him now, going on a long time to be the authoritarian puppet. It is really a sad situation for our country. Ruth, as frightening as all this is, we as americans respect powerless here, are we . No, absolutely not. One of my mantras is never underestimate the american people. And this will come from studying what people have done in the past when they had their rights taken away. We can still stop this, and we can mobilize and talk to people who tell them what the stakes will be. As i tweeted, more people will be affected than anybody could imagine. Go and talk to folks in the danger world. The other things people can. Do is vote, and vote as if democracy depends on it because it does. Thank you so much for coming to The Sunday Show. And coming up, in less than 24 hours, Donald Trumps former fixer, Michael Cohen, will take the stand in whats expected to be days of explosive testimony. Cohen once said he would take a bullet for trump, but now hes a main witness in a criminal case against him. Plus the political democratic issue that could have an issue. Angela joins me next. Youre watching the subpoenaed show on msnbc. No one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. Keytruda is known to treat cancer, fdaapproved for 16 types of cancer. 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Last year cohen testified in the civil trial that resulted in a 454 million judgment against trump. The judge writing, the fact finder does not believe that pleading guilty to emergency means that you can never tell the truth. Michael cohen told the truth. Tomorrows testimony will be an even more crucial test of cohens credibility. Nbc news Is Reporting Cohen will be on the stand for at least a couple of days, and that the prosecution has been preparing him for this moment for a year. Joining me now, the Senior Writer for politico magazine. Welcome back to The Sunday Show. So Michael Cohen has down played his role in the trial, calling himself a narrator, rather than a star witness. Is he not a star witness . Hes a star witness and essential, the component of the governments case at this point. Lets just assume for purpose of our discussion that the governor of the jury, that they are prepared to conclude the records are falsified and that the Payment Records are falsified. Trumps involvement in that falsification was intended to the crime. And thus far its been some light circumstantial evidence that would satisfy that element that cohen is likely to be the only one that could potentially provide direct evidence in the form of their conversation with donald trump and about what he was told on why the record was falsified in the manner that they were and what that purpose was. We never heard any of that and that will be crucial to obtaining the conviction because the affects of it might have been to conceal the crime, but it has to be intent beyond a reasonable doubt. Either for Michael Cohen or from other evidence. Could we see new evidence come out from Michael Cohens testimony . Yeah, it is likely that well hear him describe the conversations between him and donald trump about the records. And they are very abbreviated. Well hear about the conversations in more detail, meaning red or is it possible there could be audio that is played at trial like a recording . And my guess that it will be Michael Cohen. He has no shame that it has come back to hurt the government in the case. And can i offer a couple of thoughts about the opening . Yeah. He keeps saying he lied, and that is only true, but he lied to the irs, banks, none of that was for trump, all of that was for him. And after that Court Decision you read, a couple of months later, a federal judge said he perjured himself. It is more complicated when people have the ability to process. Given what you just said, if you were on the Prosecutions Team tonight, right now, how worried would you be about cohens testimony tomorrow or this coming week . I wouldnt be so worried tomorrow because they would have had a plan worked out. Its the cross that will be the problem. I dont know, anybody who knows as cognitively fluent as you would like to believe he is, i dont know, i dont have a nicer way of saying it. But any way he could easily be taken apart during cross examination. If he blows up and starts railing against whoever and going off the cuff because he will be up there for hours, hours, potentially days on cross. Is he going to be able to hold it together . I dont know. He doesnt seem to have a lot of selfcontrol. Most of the key witnesses in the case have dumped all over him before this. I was going to ask about the meme worry. All terrible ideas. Im going to skip that and get to Allen