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MSNBCW Chris July 2, 2024

Good day im Chris Jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. We are just learning that things are getting heated in court as donald trump today is trying to get charges tossed. Not in manhattan but in florida where hes now fighting to end his classified documents case even before it goes to trial. The Special Prosecutor calling the claims legally and factually flawed. The terrifying turbulence of a flight over thailand, passengers launched from their seats, some slamming into the ceiling of the plane as it hit an air pocket. The flight plum meting 6,000 feet in minutes. What investigators on the scene are looking for. With closing arguments in trumps Hush Money Trial Set for next week were on the verge of answering a question, thats been hanging over the president ial race for more than a year. Will the jurys decision also determine the former president s political future and is a Trump Centric race bad for President Biden. So a lot to get to. We start with a rare flurry of activity in Donald Trumps classified documents case in florida. Multiple motions today as part of a Ple Trial Process thats already gone on for nearly a year with no end in sight. Both motions are attempts to dismiss the indictment, arguments for the first from trumps personal aide just finished and arguments from the second from trump himself, walt naughta are expected to start in 30 minutes. They represent a handful of emotions that judge Aileen Cannon needs to address, including Critical Issues like discovery and the use of Classified Information. All of this leaving the trial date still up in the air. Dasha burns is outside the courthouse in florida, ken delaney is nbcs justice and intelligence correspondence and Glen Kirschner is host of the Justice Matters podcast. Dasha, whats going on in court . I know theres a lunch break now but before lunch we got a note that things were heating up. Whats happening . Reporter some spice in the courtroom here in south florida. Look, today the Defense Attorney for walt naughta laid out his case for the motion to dismiss alleging that jack smiths decision to charge walt was based on selective and vindictive prosecution saying this was a form of retaliation for not cooperating properly with the investigation. Now afterward his attorney made the argument, it was the prosecutions time to refute that. David harbach arguing for the special counsels office got a little passionate calling the arguments hard to sift through, and a Garbage Argument to begin with. And in a back and forth with judge cannon at one point things got so heated that cannon told harbach im going to ask that you calm down. A lot of flurry in the courtroom right now, the arguments for the first motion just wrapped up. The second motion to dismiss will be addressed after lunch thats focused on all three defendants. Where the defense is arguing it should be thrown out because of procedural failures. Saying the indictment fails to set forth in plain language actual violations of criminal law and claiming it is instead a personal and political attack against former President Trump. Which, of course, the prosecution does refute and is going to refute in court today. Glen, i wasnt there, i only know what im hearing from friends who are. It sounds like the prosecutions frustration is starting to come to the surface. This is not first time that either one of the prosecutors or frankly a lot of legal analysts have said that some of these motions are just as, she said, Garbage Arguments. Talk to me if theres merit in the arguments today and do you think todays hearing were necessary . To start with your first question, these motions are meritless. I understand the prosecutors frustration. Lets take walt nautas claim hes being selectively prosecuted. The leading Supreme Court case on the issue of selective prosecution arose out of the vietnam draft. There were 670,000 nonregistrants. Of those 670000. The Department Of Justice prosecuted 13 people. Those 13 defendants screamed bloody murder claiming their indictments should be dismissed because they were selectively prosecuted. The Supreme Court rejected those claims and set an extraordinarily high bar for a litigant, a defendant, to prove, successfully prove selective prosecution. We dont have time to go through the test but i teach it, walt nautas case doesnt come within 100 miles of that high bar. I can understand why the prosecutors use Strong Language if theyre calling it a Garbage Motion i would call it baseless and frivolous, which should have been solved on the papers with no need for an Oral Argument or hearing, that feels like the judge continuing to slow walk the case without even setting a trial date. Ken we got new information about this case from a court filing yesterday about documents that were found in trumps bedroom at maralago. This is another kind of wild party of this story, tell us about it. Thats right, krisz chris. This court filing described what happened after the fbi did the search of maralago and grabbed up the classified documents when prosecutors believed there were still documents the fbi didnt find, and there was still an outstanding Grand Jury Subpoena so they structured Donald Trumps attorneys to search for those documents and they did and came up with four additional sets, the judge noted she didnt see an excuse as to why mr. Trump didnt know there were classified documents in his bedroom. But prosecutors painted a picture of obstruction, the lawyers werent making a good faith effort and people were moving the documents around while the lawyers were searching. And pointed out they had evidence that donald trump, once he realized that the fbi was asking for the Surveillance Video of maralago he structured his employees to make sure they were moving boxes outside the reach of that surveillance camera. That was not in the indictment but appears to be a new allegation of obstruction of justice, chris. I want to punctuate what ken said and read what the Washington Post posted. Bauerried in the supporting documentation for one of the motions was a document that contained a new public revelation. Once trump realized that Security Cameras at maralago could capture employees moving classified Government Information officials were attempting to retrieve, he ensured that they would avoid the cameras moving boxes. What of those two things about documents in trumps bedroom and moving boxes mean for this case . , you know, it is additional devastating evidence of obstruction of justice, of mishandling Classified Information and perhaps further evidence of violation of our nations Espionage Laws if those boxes contained whats defined as National Defense information. But going to the next motion that i i guess will be argued after lunch, Donald Trumps attack on the sufficiency of the indictment, his lawyers claim there is some infirmity in the language that the prosecutors put in the indictment. I think its also a frivolous motion. Let me read one sentence of what Donald Trumps lawyers claim in their attack of the indictment. Saying the indictment fails to clearly articulate a crime and instead amounts to these are trumps lawyers words a personal and political attack against President Trump with a litany of Uncharged Grievances for public and media consumption, close quote. That is an angry tweet masquerading as a legal filing. I understand and appreciate why the prosecutors who are seeking a fair and timely trial not only for the defendant but for the American People who need this case resolved, i can see why theyre frustrated. Ken, i also want to ask you about something that donald trump posted the other day. We know for a long time he has criticized the raid on maralago. But he says that the fbi was authorized to use deadly force during the raid at maralago. Kind of implicating maybe that there was insinuating something nefarious was going on there. Was it . Chris, he didnt insinuate it, he alleged it. So did his supporters. This is a really disgusting case of disinformation, chris. What they are talking about is a standard form that was included in the Warrant Package which was a doj statement of policy that federal agents are authorized to use deadly force when their lives are threatened. So are you and i, chris and glen. Thats just standard selfdefense law. But there was a document that explained when they could and couldnt use deadly force in the context of a Warrant Search and fbi agents say that is included in the supporting documents to a warrant. Donald trumps lawyers included that in the filing. Some Conspiracy Theorist started tweeting about it saying its a an Assassination Plot that joe biden authorized fbi agents to use deadly force against donald trump, who wasnt there when the raid happened. The fbi issued a statement underlining this is Standard Operating Procedure there was no specific authorization for any kind of force during the maralago search. I have to ask your reaction to that . I join kens description, this is disgusting disinformation. Its planned to deceive people and unfortunately there are some folks who are going to be gullible enough to fall for it. Every Law Enforcement operation, officer can exercise deadly force if it is necessary to repel a potentially lethal attack. 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Specifically in the jet stream because they believe because of climate change. This plane suddenly was going up and down dramatically. Up 400 feet, down 1200 feet, up 400 feet again. It was like riding a bronco and the people inside the plane were being thrown violently through the cabin. The pilot descended 6,000 feet to get stable air, declared a medical emergency and diverted to bangkok, thailand. And you have seen the video, the mass ems response on the ground there in bangkok, with pair med digs, doctors, firefighters rushing to the scene and setting up the triage at the base of the plane itself. One person did die, a 73yearold british man by the name of geoffrey kitchen. He is said to have had a cardiac event. Other injuries, very serious indeed, including serious broken bones, neck and back injuries, 20 people remain in the icu at one of the local hospitals. The ceo out with a Statement Today saying how concerned he is about the passengers and about how this event transpired. This is a boeing triple 7, a robust plane set to resist turbulence, and it did. Structurally it was intact. But if youre up and about or not wearing your seat belt intoing into that kind of turbulence, you can be thrown about the cabin and the injuries can be very severe. Four americans, a family headed to a rotary type of event they were also on board. Some of them also injured. Now the ntsb is looking into whether there was any warning that the crew should have had going into the whether system or whether this was completely unpredictable, catching the crew by surprise with this plane. Still on the ground there in bangkok. Back to you. Tom costello, thank you. Today a new diplomatic blow to israel as norway, ireland and spain all recognize the palestine state. Those announcements were welcomed throughout the arab world and condemned by israel who recalled ambassadors. This is the latest example of israels growing international isolation. It comes just days after the top prosecutor of the International Criminal Court Announced hes seeking Arrest Warrants for hamas and israeli leaders including Prime Minister netanyahu. Kelly odonnell is reporting from washington. Western countries are be putting pressure on israel to scale back the war on hamas and look for a two state solution. I wonder if weve heard from the white house about these moves . Reporter we have, chris. This tracks with a longstanding policy view of President Biden and his administration that he supports a twostate solution. But approaching it differently than what we saw with the western leaders today. By that, the Biden Administration means, it should come from within the direct negotiations between the Palestinian Authority and israel to have a more organic determination that there is a future for a twostate solution. Thats been a longtime view of joe biden and certainly of his administration. Now the European Countries are trying to excerpt some outside diplomatic pressure at a time we have seen the u. S. Taking some of its more sharp public criticism of one of our closest allies in the region certainly and anywhere in the world. And so its another tactic that these countries are using. And the irish Prime Minister, the former one not the one who made this announcement today. But when he was in washington for the st. Patricks day festiviies explained how ireland relates to the people of gaza of palestine because of their relationship with the england. But from the Biden Administration, they still want to see that come from direct negotiations. Chris . Kelly odonnell, thank you for that. Today iowa is reeling after a devastating tornado laid waste to the town of greenfield. State police confirming a number of people are dead, although they still dont know exactly how many. After the tornado absolutely obliterated homes, it flipped and crushed cars and toppled massive trees. In one day there were 20 tornado reports across the midwest, 244 reports of high winds. In prescott, iowa, those dangerous gusts knocked over three wind turbines, lighting them on fire. Bill kearns joins me now. Were not done yet . More tornados could be on the way . Not just today and maybe into the weekend. Talking about the holidays. Were in a rut with Severe Weather just about each and every day. These are the reports from yesterday, tornados, up to 21, just had another one in nebraska. The greenfield one were waiting to see how strong it was. That was the storm, it peeled the bark off trees. Typically thats winds 180 maybe up to 200 miles per hour. We havent had an ef5, the strongest tornado, since 2013. And its possible this could be near that. So thats how devastated that area is. We dont know what the death total is, they havent alerted us of that yet, waiting for that information too. Todays threats, everywhere in yellow a chance of severe storms from Western New York to central texas. This orange area we had the greatest risk and concentration of storms. Thats where the threat is this afternoon and evening. That includes dallas, fort worth. Doesnt look like violent or really powerful tornados but it doesnt take a huge one to ruin your roof or town. So severe thunderstorm watches

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