Transcripts For MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 202

MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle August 28, 2024

For stephanie ruhle. We are 71 days away from the election. Early voting starts in less than a month in the first mail in ballots will be sent out next week. The conventions are over and the threat to election day is an. One of the biggest days between know when that, the president ial debate scheduled for september 10 on abc. Now, donald trump is threatening to pull out. Here is nbcs Garrett Haake with more. Reporter tonight, the trumpet heres campaigns drooling over the residential debate. This Morning Trump casting doubt about attending and now a new wrinkle. The deal is we keep the same rules and now they want a change in the rules because she cant answer questions. Reporter in the last face off at the bys campaign request, candidates megaphones were muted while the other candidate was speaking to prevent interruption. Now heres campaign is asking for the microphones to be left on at all times. Trumps Campaign Objective but the candidates seeming to acquiesce today while taunting the Vice President. It doesnt matter to me. The truth is there trying to get out of it. Is she doesnt want to debate. Is not a good debater. Truck Vice President harris has been off the trail since her Acceptance Speech and sources tell nbc news she has held one mock debate. We have 75 days. Reporter all is trump was in battleground michigan looking to step on harris dash cam paid sources tell nbc news hes planning more aggressive fall travel and will heres the advantage on health care and abortion rights, trump aiming to Hammer Pearson two issues with a show shes vulnerable. The economy in the border. Under harris, American Veterans are treated worse by far than illegal aliens. Hey be seeing them stay at hotels . Veterans are sleeping on the streets. Reporter trump slamming the Vice President over the chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan were 13 u. S. Service members were killed three years ago. Today, trump laying a wreath at arlington. The humiliation if Afghanistan Set Off reporter my prayers are with their families and loved ones. My heart breaks for their pain and their loss. Lets bring in our leadoff panel. White house reporter for the Washington Post and a reporter for notice. Lets start with this debate debacle, if you will. Donald trump appeared in the video today asked by our own nbc drake taylor. He seemed to say tell reporters he prefers mics to be on but its about what they agreed to. Is this another sign that donald trump actually doesnt know how to handle Vice President harris . What he wants to do. They are scared or its a function of donald trumps, doing what to do and the candidate is running them. I would love to be onthe fly of the wall. I think its a process. Its a similar process to with the former president and before the biden debate going back and forth about the rules, questioning why he should even do it. Trying to undercut larger impressions of biden being a good debater. This is his process. Pomp and circumstance and hype it up but theres a reality that the former president hasnt figured out how to Vice President harris. What the lines of attack should be up for the heres campaign, they are excited right now. They recognize that something about the Vice President , was a what, triggers a former president. They know he can get upset and they want the microphones to be on because they want to goad ufn thats where they feel if he makes a personal attack or encroaches on her space as he did to Hillary Clinton in 2016, that could be used to their advantage. Yeah i know, at this point, it seems as though debate is in doubt. My wager is it will happen but ive lost money before. Who do you think needs it to happen more . Its a question of who wants it more. It seems as though the Harris Campaign wants it more but theres a question on the table, to they need a . Who needs the debate . At this point harris does need it more if only because condensed elections bring we are seeing. She needs to be in front of voters. People who who have not been as tuned in as they shouldve been the last four years as she has been Vice President. She needs the opportunity to go toe to toe against trump and show the country what that looks like. She needs to be on the debate stage countering trump. The democrats message in a clear and concise way. Unfortunately, President Biden couldnt do in the first debate. I get what they want the microphones on. Its about goading the president and i get why the Biden Campaign one of them off. They wanted President Biden to be able to deliver his message, that was her goal. The Harris Campaign goal is they know she can deliver even of trump is trying to talk over her. They hope trump says something during his time with the mics on when its not his turn. That so off message and outputting that it puts her over the top. I mean, its not a bad strategy. Tyler, again. I think the debate is happening. The candidates are preparing as though its happening. What can you tell us about the various Camps Reparations . The Vice President had started Debate Preparation assuming she would debate senator j. D. Vance. Her team had to play j. D. Vance and mock debate prep but that had not formally started but they are underway preparing for a debate in which he would play in that role similar to 2020. Obviously, things shifted dramatically. She has a team of aides that prepared her in 2020 and they are leading the debate prep. They pulled a long time mates, Policy Aids Have worked closely with the Vice President to help her prepare they are starting to hold mock debates at Howard University where she attended. She has return there throughout her political career for big moments and for practice is we expect to see this continue to ramp up and hold moore sessions. In a more traditional matter of going over policy and ideas and then leaning to the formal not mock debates. Trump has a different practice here. We know he underwent some prep before the biden debate. He and advisers felt that went extremely well and thats why were seeing this backand forth over what the rules will look like. Trump by all accounts, his team is satisfied with out that Debate Performance any privately told people went too well and he kicked biden off the ticket. I think he will continue to have less traditional Debate Preparations, going over policy. Is reporting that former democratic representative is she helping a little bit . She sparred with Kamala Harris in the democratic primary debates so she has been enlisted to help now, becoming a surrogate for the former president. Nontraditional experience there. I think the debate over the debate shows anxiety and the stakes for both sides. Arguably the most important day before election day to these two candidates. So much has changed the last month and thats the last time, the only time americans will see them in the same place. I will say the last time we were talking about a debate of this magnitude, it was between President Biden and former president trump. I have talked to many people that believe, joe biden would still be at this point at the top of the ticket. My question is, the strategic decision to have this internal conversation spill out into the rest of the world this morning. Last night when we went to sleep, was not a focal point that everyone was aware of. The debate about the microphones. I think its been the pattern that was in place when biden was on the ticket. They put that first marker down saying we want the debate. These are our requirements. These are the networks we want to have hand at first, the Trump Campaign tried to add onto that and the Biden Campaign was no, were not doing that. Then they acquiesced. Here again, you see the heres campaign putting out their own markers of what they want happen and dislike previously, the Trump Campaign has acquiesced. I wonder if we will see that now. There is a point two make about the significance of this debate and how its going to set up the rest of the days in the campaign. The june 27 debate didnt go the way democrats wanted. Here again, there goading the Trump Campaign to show up and they believe because they have a different candidate at the top of the ticket that it will go differently but there is potential downside for the Vice President. If, because shes not in the practice of engaging with reporters and not in the practice of having unscripted moments, we know she prepares, sometimes over prepares for these highstakes movements, but because shes not in the practice outside of the debate space, she could potentially be caught on the back foot. Its a place we know she likes to be because shes a prosecutor and likes to go back and forth in highprofile moments. But there is a downside for her potentially. And the same as ever trump. That something we heard leading into the trump and biden debate. He wasnt doing enough Public Events to be prepared for that back and forth. The first time he was off teleprompter, off script, challenged on his feet, we are seeing the similar concerns creep out ahead of what is ultimately the most important appearance. Lets talk about this. What folks are talking about is the lack of a sitdown interview that the Vice President has yet to do so and she has become the democratic nominee. The harris team said she will sit for an interview by the end of the month. The end of the month is this week. Friday. What do you think is most important for the Vice President to get across in that interview . And to whom is she getting across to. I have raised this issue with voters and for my colleagues and those in the media apparatus aetjr; hqeveryo feels a little differently. I think in this case, the people shes trying to reach, i think, are the people i think it comes down to those behind her. They support her and agree with her. To a lesser extent, the media, to be able to say that she can talk about policy without a teleprompter, to prove that she has the chops to be the person who is able to lead the country. I think thats the sort of focus of what the interview is supposed to do. It is supposed to show the people who are watching, and there are going to be whenever she does a sitdown interview, there will be millions of Average Americans who get glimpse and see clips online. The Highlight Reel of it. They will take away from that however she performs. I think the focus on having a specific format, this, she has to sit down with an interviewer who asked her what is in our mind, tough questions, and have good answers. Thats a metric that people who are used to watching politics are looking for and until harris puts that forward, people will continue to ask these questions about whether she can do it. Personally i think theres something a little bit self centered and that as we are trying to help shape what is going on in this campaign. We as the media. It is important for her to show that she does have the grasp on all the issues on how to, almost this gravitas necessary to be president and carry out the functions of the office. Let me throw something on the table here. A lot of candidates do a lot of interviews, and the gravitas has yet to show up in some of the interviews. I think its no secret, i was at one point a spokesperson for the president s ive seen her answer these questions. When we talk about polling. Posters, trump pollsters are predicting harris numbers after the convention and meanwhile harris advisers are signaling caution. I think bulls are not predictive but they are indicative of what voters are feeling. The question is, Public Opinion, i think, is often informed by what people see and read. Informed by the news. Could an interview about the Public Opinion and polling . What do you think, hes . Absolutely. Thats entirely possible that if she sits down for an interview and hits a home run or she whips it but it can have an effect on the polling, how people perceive her. You are right that polls are not predictive. Their snapshot of a moment that we try to infer something about the country at large. Its an imprecise science, but because we have so few days, that puts the pressure on these moments and these highstakes sitdown interviews on the debate. People dont have as much data to work off of is a what otherwise. Small things can have big impacts. Thats very true. If she hits a home run, dont know if that will bring her much up in the polls. This honeyman factor that trumps posters were talking about that does tend to happen after conventions, especially the Second Convention and thinks to timing we are seeing the heres campaign benefiting from that at this moment. I think when she does have this interview with whatever network she does, dont predict a huge bump in the polls but if it goes badly, could affect her slightly. I know you all want to chime in on the interviews. I will let you get your moment. I will say in the time we have left, harris and her running mate governor walz will be on the campaign trail this week. The be in georgia campaigning together for the first time in that state then she will have her rally in savannah. As the campaign cochairman mitch, are they going to do an interview on the bus . He said he didnt know what the moment. He thought the interview would have been. Obviously, interviews matter. Lets be clear. If theres a question, look at the president and George Stephanopoulos and many democrats, that interview on top of the other things that happened in the last debate that concerned them. I think we are on the same page. We will see when the interview happens. More than that, literally, people will start rooting in a couple of weeks. Mailin ballots are going out next week. I hear people talking about the honeymoon period but is it possible that literally this could be the tone and tenor of the campaign through election day . I think thats what they are hoping for. I think this surge moment on translated into actual actionable on the campaign, getting people out to door knock and sustain cash flow they are seeing right now. I think they are hoping. I think the interview is important. Its important to prove to the media that she can do one improve to the democratic that maybe they werent so right about her and shes actually can be a good candidate. I think its important for the american public. Im not saying she has to do 60 minutes the first time out or anything like that. I do think theres an opportunity to prove to the media class she can do it which is selfcentered, selfserving for us. Its a chance to prove to the American People about who she is. Tyler, you have the last word. We are speaking as if the Vice President has never done an interview in the four year shes been Vice President. Broader than that its not just doing the interview but what she wants to do as president. Theres questions about what is or policy platform . Whats her hundred day platform. What will she focus on them prioritize . Whats your vision for the American People . She has taken over the campaign and pick Day Running Mate and in the convention. We got life story, biography, and that makes sense for the phase of the campaign but theres you need to outline if you elect me, this is what you can expect me to fight for. We have some broad outlines of what that looks like. Her positions from when she ran for president in 2019 to now are different. She has changed a lot of where her policy, what she wanted to do in issues related to health care. Issues that matter to the American People. Thats a huge part of the interview is having her clarify what her vision is. Safe to say, america, everyone is questions for Vice President Kamala Harris. Tyler, jasmine, hayes, thank you so much. Coming up. When you think, let it sit with you. Who do you think of . I dont think donald trump comes to mind. How he is desperately trying to reframe the Republican Partys highly unpopular stance on abortion. How one state Election Board is laying the groundwork to block the certification of the election if trump loses. The 11th hour just getting underway. Why do couples choose a sleep number smart bed . I sleep great now that my side is as firm as my Heart Desires. My Heart Desires soft. Sleep number does that. 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