President, Dick Cheney, and his daughter, Liz Cheney, have announced they will vote for Kamala Harris. More on families lining up against trump while one major republican leader is sitting this one out. And justice denied. Newly revealed details about the Torture And Murder of emmett till and the journalist who withheld information about the man who killed the young boy. I am in for jonathan capehart, and you are watching the saturday show. We are entering the final stretch in the race for 2024. There are 59 days until the election, but some americans will get the chance to cast their ballots even sooner. A handful of states including the crucial Battleground State of pennsylvania are scheduled to begin early voting this month. Voters will also get a chance to see vice Kamala Harris and Donald Trump Face off in their first and possibly only debate this tuesday. Earlier today the Vice President took a short break from Debate Prep to finish a small Spice Shop in pittsburgh. When asked if she was ready to take on trump heres what she had to say. Yes. Whats the one thing you want to get across to him . Well, there is a lot but look, its time to turn the page on the divisiveness. It is time to bring our country together, chart a new way forward. This weekend, Harris Campaign surrogates will hold over 2000 events talking to voters about trumps extreme plans to Ban Abortion nationwide, Cut Social Security and medicare, and texas for middleclass taxes for middle class families. Tim walz will deliver the keynote address. As for trump he has been focused on Press Conferences and Town Halls where he spouts his usual nonsense and lies. Recent polls show a tight race the man appears to be getting desperate. As i wrote this week in the New York times, we have reached the scrounging for Scandals Part of the trump campaign. This week on Fox News he falsely claimed the debate would be rigged against him claiming that harris will be provided the questions from abc in advanced. And when you dont Think Trump can go any lower he goes out and buys a shovel. In wisconsin in a rambling speech he had these not so kind words about the Vice President. We are run by stupid people, stupid, stupid people. And we found that out at the debate with joe. How did that work out mark we are going to find it out again on tuesday night. Is anybody going to be watching . You know she is a threat to democracy. Donald trump is a threat to democracy. If i destroy her at the debate they will say trump suffered a humiliating Defeat Tonight no matter what. Basil michael junior, school of professional studies at columbia university, and the democratic strategist and former Congressman David jolly is also a msnbc political analyst. Msnbc reported that in addition to harris preparing for Policy Responses she is preparing for Donald Trump to say derogatory things about her. How do you think she should respond if the debate becomes volatile in that way . Punch back, you dont have to do the same Ad Hominem attacks Donald Trump is living on her. You dont have to make it personal, but you have to treat the bully as the bully he is. In 2016 when he was debating Hillary Clinton he would follow her around the Debate Stage, sort of looming over her, i had about that will happen, but earlier in this where she has become the nominee that she knew the type, and if shes going to prosecute the case against Donald Trump than she should also treat him like a criminal he is, the 34 Felony Counts that he has received, treat him as that person. Dont back down, be strong, and always pivot back to these are our values. We are going forward not backward. Pivot to that, make sure she reminds The American people this is an inclusive campaign when hes focused on an exclusive campaign. Whats the style of that Punch Back . Making fun of him . Is it more serious mark its interesting. I do not think i dont think you need to elevate him. There is this point where folks had said maybe we dont talk about him as a threat to democracy, minimize him, make him seem small, it can seem petty. Thats a rhetorical flourish i think she can handle. You dont need Obama Level Rhetoric here, you just need to be able to turn around and say that is small minded, thats a mature, thats the bully. Dont take him seem bigger than he really is, and that gets under his skin. When you kind of ignore him, and you push him to the cited make him feel irrelevant hes going to push back in a way that will make him see more unhinged, if thats possible than he already is. David, the Harris Campaign agreed to allowed muted microphones when the candidate is not speaking, originally they wanted microphones on the whole time. I thought, well, doesnt even matter at this point . Not at all. I love these predebate days. We have theories and ideas of what she should do. It turns out to be something that surprises us. She is going to wow the country, but i largely agree with basil but take a slightly different approach to it, which is i would not have said Punch Back, but i take his point. You are being dismissive, dismissing him as the incoherent, rambling, xenophobic racist he is. I know thats hard to do with a wink and a nod, but do it. Theres one question how to deal with trump, theres another, with the greatest opportunity on the Debate Stage for the Vice President mark i think this has nothing to do with Donald Trump. I think its how she engages in exchanges with the moderators on policies and the vision for the country and how she defends her and president bidens record, because she will be pushed on that as trump will hopefully be pushed on his. But the opportunity to command the stage i think is in one dismissing Donald Trump for the incoherent aging former president he is, but secondly to demonstrate command of policy and most importantly vision. When she has exchanges with the moderators let The American people believe in you on the Debate Stage. And if she does that, she has given us every indication shes capable of doing that. Watch out. It will be her good night for her. Hillary clinton seems to agree, and goes a step further, in an interview with the New York times, that she shouldnt just Punch Back, but she should hate him, he can be rattled, she says. He does not know how to respond to substantive direct attacks. Thats true. If you look on the ways he has attacked her he has said Ad Hominem attacks, but he has attacked her intelligence. And shout out to Karen Dunn with a great article spotlighting Karen Dunn, i used to work with karen, she is brilliant, and she knows how to do this. She offers the candidates tough love. This is how you go back. Youve got to go this way, so i do think that the strategy, and i love davids words, dismissive, being dismissive of Donald Trump is really important. It gets under his skin, it gets him rattled. The last thing he wants to be is irrelevant. If you make him irrelevant you will see that Split Screen of her being thoughtful, prepared, smart, versus someone where you would say we arent sure if we want him leading the country. Take a listen to this Campaign Ad on abortion. He told us who he was. Should abortion be punished . There has to be some form of punishment. Then he showed us. For 54 years they were trying to get roe v. Wade terminated, and i did it, and im proud to have done it. Donald trump now wants to go further with plans to restrict birth control, Ban Abortion nationwide, even monitor womens pregnancies. We know who Donald Trump is. He will take control. Well pay the price. So how do you think abortion is going to factor into both the debate and also ultimately into how people vote in november . To start on the voting in deepblue New York there will be language about codifying reproductive rights, so its important even in blue states even if we know potentially the outcome it will help down ballot races, so thats critical. And i think for the rest of the campaign cycle, you focus on the fact Donald Trump wanted this outcome, and you take every draconian measure and all the states where youve had these measures like louisiana, you amplify that and say guess what, thats not confined to one state. It will be 50 states. Respectively, the last president to debate resulted in a seismic shift on both campaigns. What is the impact of Tuesdays Debate . I think all eyes are on Vice President harris, because The American people have an opportunity to take the measure of her in a way they havent. The dnc was a remarkable week for her and it was scripted, this will be anyway for the macon people to see. Im waiting for this to become the theme of the last 60 days. I think Donald Trump has become increasingly irrelevant to the 2020 for narrative. I know that sounds wild. 45 or 46 , but he is stuck at 45 or 46. He has no new tricks but no new message, and between the three of us i bet we could predict how he will perform on tuesday night. We know it. Every american knows it. He has one of the most cemented brands in the entire world right now. Nothing he can do can change that, so i dont see Donald Trump being relevant to this race whatsoever other than how the campaign and allies spend money on vile, vicious attacks on Vice President harris. If hes able to move anybody it will be because he lands something that sticks on Vice President harris in a vicious way, not because of any reason Donald Trump suggests hes qualified to be president again. I wrote that down. Stay tuned, our panel continues. Liz cheney is not the only one in her Family Voting for Kamala Harris. Why her Dads Decision could be even bigger. As the Harriswalz Campaign releases a new addict courting black voters i will ask someone who has been doing outreach on the ground. Just how much work still needs to be done in order to turn out this crucial voting block. Its actually the buildup of Plaque Bacteria which can cause cavities. Most toothpastes quit working in minutes. But crest prohealths antibacterial fluoride protects all day. 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Do you care to share with us . Dick cheney will be voting for Kamala Harris. Yeah. Thought we would see a political is . A former republican Vice President , and a perennial G Li american political dynasties rushing to endorse Vice President harris for president. Jimmy mccain, son of the late senator john mccain, announced he had registered as a democrat and planned to cast his vote for harris in november. The Vice President also has support from the clintons, the obamas, and most of the kennedys, who have denounced Rfk Jr. s move to announce trump. Jimmy carter has declared he wants to make it to november so he can vote for Kamala Harris, too. David, former Vp Cheney has said there is no greater threat than Donald Trump. Here is how Kamala Harris reacted at a stop in pittsburgh earlier today. I am honored to have their endorsement, and i think that what they both as leaders who are wellrespected are making an important statement that its okay, and important to put country above party. People ive been talking with in pittsburgh are exhausted about the division attempts to divide us as americans. For context, because you always have to say this when talking about Dick Cheney he was one of the major architects of the Weapons Of Mass Destruction were in iraq under President Bush. But how momentous do you think that this endorsement, saying hes going to vote for her how big will that be . My gut says it is more historic than it is impactful. And what i mean by that, and great credit to Dick Cheney and liz for their patriotism. What i dont want to do is insult them, but in many ways when it comes to trump, they are lagging indicators, not leading indicators. Liz cheney voted for him in 2016 after the muslim ban, Access Hollywood through the first term she voted for him again in 2020, she voted against the first impeachment and called it a waste of time. It was not until the violence of January 6th when Liz Cheney broke, after swabs of other republicans had said no in principle to trump. But thats not a way to take away. It might be a narrow lane of antitrump voters and now persuadable members of the harris coalition. Its an impactful one. Its very impactful. There are certainly republicans, who i hate to say it this way, will hold their nose to vote for harris, because they Think Trump is dangerous, they might jump into, if it elects Vice President harris kudos to them. I dont think it is something we treat as a Leadership Moment of the antitrump or never trump , its more a lagging movement behind. Expect i will say Donald Trump has succeeded in blurring the definition of heroes and villains here. In response to cheney saying he was going to vote , or his daughter saying hes going to vote for harris, Donald Trump called the Vice President a rhino, republican in name only what you make of that . From me, charles . Yeah, i mean heres the thing. Andcheney as you alluded to all the hard right conservative wyoming republican credentials he brings he is the caricature of the angry conservatism. Donald trump is the one who when he decided to run for president the first time was not sure if he was party or decided in 2016 which he could use as a vessel to topple over and he chose the republican party. Donald trump is the true r. I. N. O. Here. Cheney remains bona fide. Nbc news reports former george w. Bush has no plans to endorse a candidate this year. According to his office, President Bush retired from president ial politics years ago. Would you make of this year . Im not sure that comes from. Maybe david has a better sense about it, but i dont know that thats even necessary, right . You have got Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney defending the shield, and i think thats really in my view that is what needed to happen. They are not going to go recruit democrats, i would love to see them do a rally to try to help, but they are going to do that to get democrats out, because they are still republicans. It creates a Permission Structure to maybe defend a little bit against the attacks that Emily Harris will receive from Donald Trump and other republicans. And it gives voters who may, Nikki Haley voters who otherwise may have stayed home, if george w. Bush, it might be more additive as opposed to Donald Trump who is always about subtraction. At this line President Bush retired from president ial politics doesnt that smack of cowardice right now . Why step out . But, i wonder. Is he seen as the standardbearer even though he served two terms . Or is it like you know what, im done . 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