We are 48 hours from the first debate between harris and trump. Harris and here team has been preparing trump's incoherence has gotten worse. They are going to save,ly onis going to save up a rocket. Can you imagine you are a parent and your son leaves the house and you say, jimmy, i love you so much, go have a good day in school and your son comes back with a brutal operation. Take a look at bacon in some of the products and some people don't eat bacon anymore this was caused by their horrible energy wind. They are so me andering his own supporters are leaving early. Clear at there point who trump, who long prided himself as a show man is losing the room. Trump is embedded in the public consciousness as a rule breaker for so long it can be easy to forget how far he is from fulfilling the basic requirement of a politician to speak clearly. Last week we saw what was arguably the most egregious example when trump did a q&a session at the economic club of new york. Watch. If you win in november can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make childcare affordable and if so, what specific piece of legislation would you advance? i would do that and we are sitting down. I was somebody we had senator marco rubio and my daughter ivanca so impactful on that issue. It is a very important issue. But i think when you talk about the kind of numbers that i am talking about, that because look, childcare is childcare. It is something you have to have it in this country you have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that i am talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they are not used to but they will get used to it quickly. It will not stop them from doing business with us but they will have a substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are bigger than any numbers we are talking about including childcare that it will take care. We are going to have i look forward to having no deficits in a short period of time. And talking about fraud, i have to stay with childcare. I want to stay with childcare but the numbers are small relative to the economic numbers that i am talking about. Including growth. But growth also headed up by what the plan is, that i just told you about. We will be taking in trillions of dollars and as much as childcare was talked about as being expensive relatively speaking not expensive compared to the numbers we will be taking in. We wanted to play it in its entirety so you see it all for yourself and no one says you edited it or cut it. In case it was lost there. The question was about what spectacular childcare legislation would trump advance? something a politician, presidential candidate should be able to answer easily if he had a piece of legislation that he was aware of. It was not a rally filled with his diehard supporters. This is a room of economic experts wanting to hear him explain his policies and legislation. Since then, top economic thinkers including the woman who asked him that same question have blasted trump's word style. So, once again, he lost the room. But if you did not watch that with your own eyes and insteadry lied on legacy media outlets for the story you might have been left with a totally different perspective. Instead of focusing on trump's nonanswer outlets, the new york times, the associated press all presented the bizarre spectacle as if it it was a normal policy driven speech. And explosive economic growth. We are now 10 years into covering donald trump and the media is still choosing to sanitize trump's nonsensical ramblings. The same media that did not shy away from biden's age and mental i queuityquity. There can not be a free pass the stakes are too high. Here is my panel. Molly, i will start with you. Your reaction to that stunning failure. Both from trump to answer the specific question about legislation and what i would call, the failure of the media to say trump will pay for childcare by raising tariffs. They have to, wherever you quote trump and you look at the transcript i am always like that can not be it. Those are not sentences. They put them together to appear nonpartisan. But, appearing nonpartisan makes trump seem like a different person. I would say what was good about that moment was, she asked a very clear question and then she really kind of snuck in a follow up question. She was like, what is your policy and how are you going to implement it. Where trump gets in trouble, he gets in trouble a lot of trouble and lying and, you know, where he gets in trouble is when you ask him how, right? yes. Trump loves to boast about his rallies but even supporters tire of him, leaving early. You saw the flat lining of the rnc when he took the stage for i guess close to two hours, held a rally in pennsylvania and by the end of it a large number of the 8,000 seats were emptied. Is the rambling turning them off or the same playbook? i think it is a bit of all of the above. I think that everyone has a bit of fatigue, even some of the trump supporters now, not the culty trump supporters but the trump supporters that go, okay. We kind of seen this. It is like the, you know, you are a fan of an entertainer and comedian and they give a performance where you are like that was not the greatest. People are tired of it. He has no new material. That is the bottom line, keeps repeating the same things over and over and over again and they are looking for more. And there is, when he tries to give more we hear the salute insanity. Trump has been off the rails. Ramblings of a salute lunatic every day. And, the media does, to molly's point, try to, some media, try to report it in a way that normalizes it. There is no normalization of donald trump putting out these threads where he is threatening to jail donors, jail people, election officials, people he is threatening mass deportations, haddie is threatening cease and desist, you do not get to do that to people because you are mad at them. It is insane. And, yet, there is little coverage of it. It is almost, it is trump being trump. No. That would be fine if he were still the reality show host on the apprentice. He is running for president of the united states again. Control of the nuclear codes, this is a problem. And it is why people are able to say, well, i might not like him but i like his policies. What policies are those? and you don't get to excuse the fact that he did. Horrible person and think that separates his ability to govern. They are interconnected. Stop giving people a pass for still supporting someone that is this dangerous to our country. That is why you saw a woman, a republican woman was interviewed and asked why she was supporting harris and you know, she is a normal human being. That is refreshing. That woman that cried tears in pittsburgh hit hard for so many of us because that woman is just i think she represents a lot of america just saying are we going to be okay? and kamala harris showed empathy, compassion, things that a well, normaladjusted human being demonstrates. He is none of those things. Incapable. Stop normalizing it. Tom, you think a childcare question would be a simple question to answer. So, give me your thoughts on how revealing was this moment or is it not revealing at all in the sense that his base his follower would not watch it, they are reading the headlines as i mentioned if it is in the new york times or other news sites that kind of just, you know. Sane washed it as molly said. What is revealed is, he does not care about policy. His followers don't care about policy. You know, something. People saying i like his policies. That is nonsense. That is top cover for them saying i just like the fact that he makes people mad and he hates the people i hate. His policies change in so far as he has any, every 30 seconds. That notion that, well, we have to talk about trump's policies goes to molly's point. A lot of reporters, i think, find themselves saying i can't write this. I can't write that the gop nominee is this unhinged emotionally unstable, you know, deeply messed up person. I am a serious person and serious people write about policy so therefore i have to write about policy. That means i have to ignore trump and ignore democrats and the republicans are making hay out of that. They are constantly saying you have to go, you know, drill down deep on harris'policies and when they turn to trump to what is your policy, it is something t is important, looking at it strongly. More is coming, marco rubio, sharks, batteries, stuff. [ laughter ] it is always two weeks. Right and the interesting thing, molly, some of the polls coming out, neck and neck, something that was buried deep that our producer found. Green states, trump is saying he so the decline. Voters in michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin think that kamala harris is more mentally fit to serve as president than trump. Again, it is not a surprise for any of us who watch this and see this day in and day out. Trump is not fit for off. There is what the people think of him. He is not totally with it. I think what is really interesting about all of these polls is that they show trump has a ceiling and she has a ways to go. They have a ground game for this very reason. Trump world does not have a ground game. Voter integrity which i think means they will try to intimidate people and maybe sue about results. But, harris does have a real ground have a real ground plan. They are going on a bus tour. And harris opened the map in georgia and north carolina. So, one of the great things about having a 59yearold candidate who does not play golf and live in, you know, her country club is that she can now go and spend the next, which she must do, the next 58, 59 days on a bus, going to every single swing state again and again and again and letting people know her. She is quite good when she campaigns and that is what she needs to do. I think the vice president, i think her vice presidential candidate tim walz can do the same. Yes. You have a candidate who can actually campaign and that is making the difference. Before i go i got to get your thoughts the debate that trump had against joe biden that set all of this in motion, people forget how bad donald trump's performance was. Everybody was focused on joe biden, right? donald trump lied his way completely incoherent throughout the debate. He will not have that going up against harris. A disciplined former prosecute who is 20 years younger than him. Absolutely not. He is setting it low. Complaining about everything going into this debate that is what he does. He knows he is incapable. He knows he is going to lose. He does not have the same mental acuity or agility. And i said it reportedly. He is about to get cross examined for the first time in front of the american people in a way that he has never faced before. She is literally a prosecutor against a felon. That visual alone is something process: it trump is who he is. It is up to her to make sure the american people fully understand that contrast. It is an important one. Everyone stick around i have more to discuss. Up next, trump was not the only one who stumbled over the childcare question. Wait until you hear what his runningmate had to say. 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The trump vance ticket play claim to be pro family but the policy platform is pure delusion. And the gap between rhetoric and concrete results is a theme of the fake populism of trump vance republicans, my panel is back with me. Tom, your thoughts on this. How do you see this pro family push working for trump and fans so far? i have to say it is laughable to call it a push. Especially after what we heard this week from these two guys. Unable to answer a question about childcare. This really is the answer. Tell her to pitch in, they are not doing anything all day. I say this, i was raised in the 1960s and both of my parents working. I was raised for a few years by my greek grandmother. That, i can tell you, i love my grandmother but that is not a great system, you know. Things get fight, call grandma if they are just there. I think this is something that comes across, even if everyone else is there to be a supporting player to the likes of people like vance. Your grandmother, they don't have lives they are there to help you, you know, realize your fullest potential in life. And, it is arrogant and self centered and assumes everybody has a grandmother and grandfather and an aunt and uncle sitting around within driving distance of them. Yes. To help out. Yes. An interesting point. The majority of americans don't live within, you know, childcare distance of their grandparents. He thinks childcare is dropping off kids for a couple of hours so some other adult can be responsible for them. It paints a picture as tom was saying, when you look at the comments this week. You look at the previous comments in post roe america that he envisioned ask throws it back to the 50s with grandparents doing everything. It shows you how out of touch they are with where america is as a concrete socially and economically and culturally. And row is so important, right? when they over turn it. It was punitive. No exceptions for the life of the mother and rain and incest and a lot of republicans toy with the idea that is indicative of it is, it is culture wars it is not a policy. The reason they did project 25 is it is interesting, he outsourced it. This is not what everyone wants, not a lot of interest for policy for a lot of them. A culture war again. This is what republicans are camp