Donald trump which concluded just a few minutes ago in philadelphia. Chris, to your point about ms. Being made here, trump refused to say that he would veto national Abortion Ban. Trump also repeatedly refused to say that he thinks or wants thinks that it would be good, or wants for ukraine to win the war in russia. He would not say it and then he talks about how hes very concerned about the number of troops that russia has lost after they invaded another sovereign country . I mean, it was stunning. Joy, to your point about the way that Kamala Harris turned it to him directly, i want to read that part from the transcript. Kamala harris says to the camera,. Donald trump was fired by 81 Million people so lets be clear about that and clearly hes having a very hard time processing that but we cannot afford having a president of the United States up in the photos in a free and fair election. I can tell you i have traveled the world as Vice President. World leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. I have talked with military leaders, some of whom work, and then she turns with you, and they say you are a disgrace, and when you then talk in this way in a president ial debate over and over again about Court Cases youve lost because you did in fact lose that election, it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right, the temperament or the ability to not be confused about that fact, and that is deeply troubling and The American people deserve better. That is playing those two terms that you are talking about. The camera, talking to people at home and talking to her opponent in ways that deeply rattled him and shes able to do it in the same answer. Joining us now is the democratic Vice President ial Nominee And Minnesota governor Tim Walz. I really appreciate you making time to be here with us tonight. Thank you. Thanks for having me, rachel. Great night. You are in a Watch Party in arizona. You figure it was a great night. Tell us how you assess your running Mates Performance this evening. I am out here in mesa and folks across the country got to see a president for all americans. You saw president Vice President harris conduct herself with Dignity And Layout her plans for an economy in tackling real problems and doing it all with Grace And Dignity and then on the other side, i dont know how to describe it. You saw a nearly 80yearold angry narcissists continue to veer off into things that in any other setting might actually be funny, but they are dangerous in the setting. They are dangerous because this guy anywhere near the White House is simply unacceptable, but i think the good news is a lot of americans are going to see this clip. These things are going to go around. Theyre going to talk to their neighbors and see what Vice President harris is bringing to them. She talks about them. He talks about himself. She talks about real issues. He goes on tangents that are hard to follow so i have to tell you i am excited about this. It is what we all knew. Im glad more people are engaging and we have an opportunity and all of this, doing it with joy. A politics of joy, a politics of possibilities for seeing this guy rooting against america. He is rooting for failure. He does not want good news. He does not want good economic news. He does not want to see Unemployment Inflation going down. He wants to see the worst because whatever twisted vision he has, he thinks hes the guy to fix it when he is the guy who started the problem. So, she did a great job. Im really proud of her. You know, your Running Mate, Vice President harris, one of the things she was just getting praised for at this table here is that she right out of the gate was able to get to a lot of the details of her policy proposals, the kinds of practical proposals you are talking about like Child Tax credits and deductions for Startup Businesses and first time homeowners and she laid out those things and those things it is important to communicate those things to The American people with such a big audience watching tonight. It was not necessarily news though, because we know that is what she is running on. On the other side, the other candidate, former President Trump did make a bunch of news tonight. He refused to say whether he would sign a national Abortion Ban. He refused to say that ukraine should win the war in russia and that would be better. He was asked nine years after he first said he wants to get rid of Obama Care do you yet have your own Health Care Plan and he responded by saying i have concepts of plans. All this was new information in terms of Donald Trumps plans. I wonder if that Changes Anything for you in terms of thinking about how to campaign against him and his Running Mate. Americans should know. We know what a nonanswer is. Of course he would not sign a ban against that because he wants it. He is The One who ruined row. He brings about it all the time. Of course is not going to do anything for ukraine because he wants putin, his buddy, to be in there and he wants to undermine the alliances that have kept peace in the world. Again, when you ask them for a plan, nine years on healthcare we know what is going to do. Hes going to destroy the aca, get rid of preexisting condition protections and attacks social Security And Medicare and The One thing he is clear about, he will give Tax Cuts to the wealthy because that is The One thing he actually followed through with. He has no plan. When i was at the dday memorial, it was clear that other countries deeply concerned with Donald Trump coming back, deeply concerned that his inability to do anything other than a transactional shakedown of our historical allies, as we sat on the beaches of normandy for americans died protecting europe, but protecting us. That is the thing. You give on it ukraine that empowers china. It empowers putin. You have a leader in Kamala Harris that understands the importance of these alliances. She understands what it truly means to stand up for the western democracies and she truly means to talk about others. Donald trump talked about himself 99 of the time. But he wasnt talking about that, he was talking about Victor Or Bonsall could not have been clear and i would just like to say, she did her job. Americans need to do there is. Get engaged, talk to your neighbor, do some doorknocking. It was clear tonight that there is only one person on that stage that should be president of the United States and that was Kamala Harris. One of the more interesting and one of the more unpredictable moments in the debate was a backandforth with the former president about whether or not he believes that he won or lost the last election. He has made some contrary remarks about this in recent days. He tried to claim, not very credibly, and was called up by one of the moderators, tried to claim those recent comments were meant sarcastically. It really didnt seem at the moment as though he was joking. The reason this is not just about 2020, it is about now is because presumably his attitude toward american elections carries through from the last one to this next one. I have to ask of you and your campaign and Vice President harris are fully expecting that even if you wipe the floor with him, even if you win by a lot in november, that he is going to list the entire Republican Party both nationally and in every state that he can in trying to claim falsely that he won. That is who this guy is and lets be very clear. This is a threat to the democracy. It is the most treasonous thing you can do, to undermine a fair and free election. He has never had Anybody Support his insane rhetoric around this but look, this is dangerous. 140 Police Officers were hurt and some were killed. This has caused issues across this country. We are ready for this. We know its going to be a tough race. We know hes not going to concede. Thats why i say once again to americans, get out there and get engaged. Im going to give a huge thank you to election workers. Folks who do the Hard Work of democracy for no money, they are being put at risk by the recklessness of Donald Trump because he cant, at nearly 80 years old, do something that my fourthgraders when i taught them did. When you lose a game, you go shake hands and you congratulate the other person and you move on. We are in this together. This guy cares nothing about the democracy. He cares nothing about The American people. He cares about himself and himself only so again, and i appreciate the moderators calling him out on this, Re Questioning him on it, making it clear that he lost but this guy is a threat. We know it comes down to the Battleground States so for all the listeners out there, we need you. We need you to get engaged. We need you to send a message and i just came a few minutes ago from talking with Mesa Mayor giles, a republican, who says im a strong republican. I dont agree with all of your positions but you are standing in the breach of democracy. Donald trump is a threat to that and he probably stood there with he and his family. That is the type of things we need americans to do across this country. Kamala harris is going to be the president for All Of Us. You dont have to agree with every policy but it is very clear she trusts this democracy. She puts the constitution above everything else. He does not. Im going to get the opportunity to have a debate with someone who is on the stage because Mike Pence sure isnt because he was willing to put the constitution above Donald Trump. It is absolutely critical people know what the threat is. I want to ask you about the prep for your debate with Jd Vance coming up. While weve been talking somebody just handed me something im going to do a not very Tv Thing and read it to you in totality. Im going to redo the whole thing because this was i dont think you know about this, but this is just posted online via woman you might have heard of his name is Taylor Swift. She has posted this online along with a photo of her cat. Im going to read you what she just posted. Quote, like many of you, i watched the debate tonight. If you have not already, now is a great time to do your research on the issues at hand and the stances these candidates take on the topics that matter to you the most. As a voter, i make sure to watch everything i can about their proposed policies and plans for this country. Recently, i was made aware that ai of me falsely endorsing Donald Trumps president ial run was posted to his site. It really conjured up my fears around ai and the dangers of spreading misinformation and brought me to the conclusion that i need to be very transparent about my actual plans for this election as a voter. The simplest way to combat this information is with the truth and she says quote, i will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 president ial election. Im voting for Kamala Harris because she fights for the rights and causes i believe need a warrior to champion them. I think she has a steady hand, gifted leader and i believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by cold and not chaos. I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of Running MateTim Walz, who has been standing up for lgbtq rights, ivf in a womans right to her own body for decades. I have done my research and i have made my choice. Your research is all yours to do, and the choice is yours to make. I also want to say especially to firsttime voters, remember that in order to vote you have to be registered. I also find its much easier to vote early. I will include a register and find early voting dates and info in my story. With love and hope, Taylor Swift, childless Cat Lady. I have to get your response to that, mr. Governor. Wow. All of those things i am incredibly grateful first of all to Taylor Swift. I say that as a fellow cat owner. That was eloquent and it was clear, and that is the type of courage we need in america to stand up. Weve seen it out of those republicans who are at the dnc. We have seen it out of women who would like to have their own personal lives kept personal but are forced to go out there because they nearly died because they cant get Abortion Services in a pregnancy and now you have somebody like Taylor Swift coming out and making that very clear. This would be the opportunity, swifties. Kamala harris. Com. Get on over there, give us a hand. Governor walz, you do have your own debate with Jd Vance coming up and coming up weekly. Have you started rapping for that yet or do you have thoughts about how youre going to approach that . Yeah, i need to. Hes a yale guy, a public school teacher. I think its a good opportunity to contrast where we are at and you will hear me talk like i have about things that impact americans, making sure they have the opportunity to thrive, making sure we are being factual and how we talk about that so im looking forward to it. I will work hard. That is what i do. I fully expect that Senator Vance as United States senator, yale law guy, he will come well prepared but i think what you saw tonight is The American public is on the side of truth. The american public is on the side of things that impact their lives in a positive way and i will continue to put that out and continue to lift up this incredible vision that Kamala Harris brought out tonight, this incredible change in our politics to be joyful, hopeful and look, she knows what it is. We can be joyful but dont Mistake Or Kindness for weakness because she called that out and i said i did enough lunchroom supervision. You put bullies in their place and she put a bully in his Place Tonight and right before our eyes, Donald Trump got angrier and smaller and more irrelevant. We need to keep pressure on for 56 days to win this thing. We dont know yet what voters will think of Tonights Debate or how many people have tuned in to watch it. The immediate reaction from the political observers i serve with here at msnbc is that your Running MateVice President harris essentially wiped the floor with Donald Trump tonight. Joy reached and said the word she chose was destroyed. Chris hayes and Lawrence Odonnell had an interesting colloquy between them as to whether or not this mightve been the best televised president ial Debate Performance ever, not just against Donald Trump and in any president ial debate so again we dont have yours at large will view it but i think at least here, our tiny Focus Group thinks that she did very well. Given that, it does not necessarily lend itself toward an obvious next choice. You could just leave it at this and decide it was a pretty good way to leave yourself in the minds of voters before they head into the Voting Booth or you could agree to another debate. If Donald Trump agreed to do it, do you think Vice President harris should debate them again after tonight . I dont want to speak for her but i would be there encouraging her to do it every day if she could. We know theres going to be nothing new. Its the same old tired agenda he brings every time and she is bringing this new hopefulness, this ability to be able to articulate what americans are asking for. The agenda tha