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Way. By the middle of next month about a dozen more states will be early voting, which is to say we have truly entered a critical time in this unprecedenteD Campaign. It is not lost on kamala harris, who spoke to a Capacity Crowd of more than 10,000 people last night. In many ways, you heard me say before. He is an unserious man. The consequences of putting them back in the White House are extremely serious. Extremely serious. On the republican side this moment seems to bring out some ugly tactics and rhetorics that do not appear to have much strategic value at all. On Friday Donald Trump Address the Israeli American Council Warning that if he loses the election, it is jewish peoples fault. I did all of these things and i got 29 . I was not treated right. It is only because of the Democrat Hold or curse on you. You cannot let this happen, 40 is not acceptable. In my opinion, the jewish people would have elected me with the loss of i met 40 . That link which has raised fears that he could be incited against jews and have political violence. Trump untaxed the Muslim Community in the same speech. Trying to reinstate has muslim ban if he returns to office but neither Trump Nor J. D. Vance have backed down from the Exhaustively Debunked lies about haitian migrants eating hats in springfield, ohio. Even as the world watches the town buckle under threats of violence that have closed at schools, Lockdown Hospitals and shuttereD City hall. J. D. Vance continue to attack and sprinkleds Haitian Population as a legal despite their protected status, not a legal at all and repeateD Claims that are spreading infectious diseases like hiv. The mayor invokes temporary emergency powers this week to address the rising public safety concerns. This kind of talk, that jews are a plaintiff we lose and muslims are out there eating pets. There is a reason that Trump And Vance and the gop under the Leadership Kip leaning on these dangerous tactics. Since but Maga Movement they have replaced Subsidence Policy proposals with an us versus them narrative but the poll numbers continue to slip heard that is causing republicans to leave on the only other Tool Donald Trump has shown an affinity for. Rigging the game. Trump has still never admitted that he lost the 2020 election to joe biden. He continues to peddle his lie about that election even as he devises a new light that will be readymade if he uses the election this year. Repeatedly casting doubt on the upcoming election and saying he will only accept the results if they are, quote, honest and implying that if he loses, it will be because of fraud. Trump is getting plenty of help this time around. The Google Probe Trump sorry, Georges Pro Trump Election Board voted to require counties to hanD Count all ballots. A move is a recipe for a coup designed to disrupt the November Election idling the reporting of the results. Election officials alike one that Hand Counting ballots will take a long time and lead to errors. Even republican State Attorney general office, which advises the board deemed the decision unlawful. This is what republicans do when they lose control, they launch coos and threaten more clues. They disenfranchise democratic voters they reject their extremism. Across american republicans are undermining the rule of Law And Rigging the system to seize power by force, much like a president ial nominee, a former Reality Tv Star who has been convicted on 34 counts in multiple states and voters have rejected those tactics. Republican lawmakers double down. Take ohio for example. After voters electeD Candidates to reform a far right School Board in 2023, the governor and the statehouse passed legislation stripping the board of all of its powers. The takeover was indirect of Science Defiance which put in the School Board processes to protect against political influence. On jerry manning, voters have rejected orders to gerrymander the gop has become even more extreme. In utah, for example, the legislature has been trying to amend the State Constitution to overturn a recent Voter Referendum that declared gerrymandering illegal. As it should be. The proposed amendment would not just affect gerrymandering, it would empower lawmakers to repeal all Voter Led Measures and limiting what one judge called the constitutional right to reform the government. As my next guest, a lawyer, the rider, the former ohio party chair, David Pepper notes, it is all about if you cannot win an election because her policies, then cheat read what we are seeing, if you look around the country, the closer you get to end gerrymandering the more extreme and lawless republicans get. They do not quit. The Abuse Power worse. Im joined by David Pepper, former chairman of the ohio democratic Party And Author of perspective, a series about project 2025 and the author of books including saving democracy a Users Manual for every american. Thank you for being here. You argue that the more republicans based resistance on issues like gerrymandering or the more extreme their taxes become one of you seen firsthand in terms of how this plays out . They know where the power comes from it comes from gerrymandered districts and other forms of lawlessness. The closer the voters get to throwing those things off, the more lawless they get, the harder the fight and more disinformation they put out. You mentioned the utah example. We are seeing a similar thing in ohio. We have something in ohio called issue on on the ballot in this november. We are one of the most gerrymandered states. It would throw the politicians off the board with the Districting Process and would ban partisan gerrymandering once and for all. They are desperate to keep their Gerrymandered System they recently approved Ballot Language that makes it look like the thing that will reform the process to end gerrymandering is going to leave the gerrymandering. On the ballot of ohio voters, they are so lawless that they are making it look like the reform means you vote no as opposed to vote yes. The closer you get to throwing away their corrupted power, the more lawless and the more egregious the behavior gets. They know that if we get rid of things like gerrymandering, they will lose because, as you said, their views are very unpopular. If you had to defend Abortion Bans or tax on public educations , in their districts, they know they would lose. They cling to Gerrymandering And Rick every lover of power they can to keep hold on the power that they have. Let us talk about utah and ohio, obviously. Early this week the Ohio Supreme Court voted for that confusing Ballot Language that tricks people into voting for gerrymandering. This is an example of what happens when institutions of your state are taken over by i dont know what else you can call them other than radicals and fundamentalists. In ohio, for example, the Ballot Board which designs the language of the ballot, they use that to manipulate the voters. The supreme court, we won the supreme court a few years ago. They immediately change the rules to make the court partisan because they did not want that to be a Check And Balance on the legislature. That supreme court is partisan and it upheld the Ballot Language. In utah the minute the Utah Supreme Court said, you broke the law or you potentially broke the law, they are now trying to do a Ballot Initiative to overturn that ruling. The lesson is very clear. It is important lesson for those who champion democracy. When you think you have a victory, dont assume they will quit. They will fight harder. They will break the law more. In ohio, they violated the Ohio Constitution Seven times to lead to maps that right now, in ohio, still violate the constitution. We have 99 Statehouse Members and 50 members of congress who are sitting in current districts that are illegal. That is how screwed up our lack of democracy is in ohio. The closer you get to victory, if your for democracy, the harder they will fight back. In The End, the secret is they know that without all this rigging and without all this cheating, the core policies they push for are deeply unpopular and they would lose. They know that so clearly that they are willing to break laws, manipulate language and Abuse Power. So much of this, like this Ballot Board language. Utah, also, the legislatures in utah, a court stop them. They put forward Ballot Language that was completely misleading. It gave the opposite view of what they were doing. They are abusing power in evie any lover of government and it is incumbent on voters to see. Keep watching closely because these guys are trying to manipulate their way to wins when they know they would otherwise loose. This does bring up an important point. There is still people in america republican, democrat or uncommitted who say, depending on where you live, my vote does not matter or count. It matters in seven or eight states. If i live in california or New York. None of that is true. In large part because of gerrymandering. North carolina is a good example they routinely elect democrats to statewide elections but has a super majority of republicans in the legislature. Your vote actually always counts. Whether it is a referendum or popular vote, Senator Or Governor or for your member of congress. Our systems to apply your vote equally, so you have to actually vote. They are showing us how much our Vote Counts. Here is the other important point, your boats count whether you are a blue suede, a red state. Their front might and the attack on democracy are statehouses. Gerrymandered statehouses. That is not only in the five or six Swing States for federal elections. Look at nebraska they are trying to screw up the electoral college. That would be through a statehouse. North carolina, they have been surprising vote with what one of the worst parts about this impression that we are left with , which is the only races that matter our federal Swing State races is we stop seeing the Front Line of the right Wing Attack on our democracy and our freedom is through statehouses like ohio. If we do not pay attention to those races and we think our votes do not matter because it may not be a Swing State for the presidency, we allow them to continue to do all the damage they are doing at the Statehouse Level were almost all the damage to democracy happens in america. Be it tennessee or florida, or missouri that is where it is happening more than washington. For the most part, nothing happens. In the states is where most of it look we have dobbs, at a mississippi your Vote Counts everywhere but if you care about democracy your vote up and down the ballot whether it is a referendum in ohio for he elected to statehouse in missouri, if you care about democracy, that is the most important vote you will cast for the long battle of protecting democracy. All of your votes count david, thanks as always. A former chairman of the Ohio Democratic Hardy and the author of numerous books. A new Louisiana Law will make it more difficult for medical professionals to access and administer a lifesaving drug a drug that stops women from bleeding out after labor or during a miscarriage. Another deadly consequence of drew Carney And Abortion bans across the country. And Todays Meeting of the velshi banned Book Club. Why is dystopian literature so important . I will speak with Scott Westerfeld Author of uglies. You are watching velshi on msnbc. Employees get the information they need instantly. 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Palestinian officials say 17 people have been killed and then loses it would involve a strike on the school which was sheltering thousands of displaced palestinians the Government Office in gaza says most injured are women anD Children. The military allege that Hamas Compound was located in the building. The latest attack brings a depth in gaza to around 41,390 since the start of The War Last October This as a war widens in the region the lebanese capital of beirut is recovering from his leg israeli airstrike on friday that killed 31 people including two has four commanders. This follows the detonation of pages and walkietalkies belonging to has a lot members earlier in the week. In that attack 37 people were killed and hundreds more injured. Israel is not publicly claiming responsibility for of attack that has law has concluded that israel was behind the explosions. Joining me now from beiruts chief international Correspondent Keir simmons. Good afternoon to you. Iran is now saying they are on the brink of war. What sense can you make of what is going on right now . Reporter that is obviously right, it is coming from the iranians who play a part in this, clearly. They have the capacity to de escalate just as much as other sides in this conflict, this growing conflict. Where we are right now, about three miles away from where that bomb landed. We heard israeli jets overhead and minutes later saw the destruction that you are seeing there. Lebanon has lived with the threat of an All Out War here for almost a year. That is the destruction that one is really bomb can do. The numbers of dead have been increasing over an hours. We do know according to the lebanese Health Agency that three women and seven children were among the numbers of dead. Israeli defense forces say the strike killed 16 hezzbollah members including 12 syria commanders, among those commanders this is trying to make commander who according to the u. S. , was responsible back in the 1980s and was connected to the bombing of the american embassy here and barracks. We just heard from national securities advisers, jake sullivan, he described him as having american blood on his hands. Anytime the terrace to has killed americans is brought to justice, that is a good outcome. What is an assassination is not bringing someone to justice. He was not pressed on that. Thank you for the Reporting Period Keir simmons reporting from lebanon. Louisiana will have action against Abortion Pills and in doing so it will deny or delay necessary lifesaving treatment for women who are experiencing various medical emergencies. Children Speaking millions of children are fighting to survive due to inequality, conflict, poverty and the climate crisis. Save the children® is working alongside communities to provide a better life for children. And theres a way you can help. Please call or go online to give just 10 a month. Only 0. 33 a day. 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We can keep working synth Music Woman Safelite came to us. Tech hi, im kendrick. Woman with a replacement we could trust. Thats service the way we want it. Vo schedule free Mobile Service now at safelite. Com. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. On October 1 a new law will take effect in louisiana that will make it more difficult for medical professionals to access and administer attention a life saving drug that drug is given to women experiencing postpartum hemorrhage ring, a serious medical condition involving excessive Blood Loss after labor, a leading cause of maternal mortality worldwide. It is also commonly loosed to treat women and incomplete miscarriage which happens when some fetal tissue remains in the uterus after a miscarriage has occurred. The drug im talking about is misoprostol, which is also used along with the Drug Mifepristone for medication abortion. In about a Week Louisiana will add both drugs to its list of scheduled four controlled dangerous substances. The first state to take this action against Abortion Pills and in doing so the state will deny or delay necessary treatment for women who are experiencing medical emergencies. Under Louisiana Law, woman to take the drugs cannot be prosecuted but anyone who helps them obtain it without a valid Reason Or Prescription can face up to five years in prison and a fine of up to 5000 and and will also force hospitals anD Clinics to comply with new rules and regulations regarding the Storage And Dispensation of both drugs. Like other schedule four substances they will need to be locked away in secured areas or compartments which means that misoprostol might not readily be available on a Crash Cart. It could literally be a matter in a new Storage Protocol for these drugs so they can practice all the new hoops they will have to jump through to get the drugs they need in an emergencies. For some doctors and pharmacists complying with the new regulations might be cost or the legal rest might be too great. That is exactly the point. Abortion legislators want to make it as prohibitive and frustrating as possible to comply with the regulations so they choke off axis to these pills entirely just like how they choked up access to Abortion Care by forcing Abortion Clinics to comply with numerous unnecessary regulations until it became so burdensome that many clinics were forced to close, which is why many parts of the country are considered maternal healthcare deserts today. It is all because these lawmakers refuse to acknowledge that abortion is healthcare. Antiabortion laws are actually making it more dangerous for women across the country and that has been true from the moment that the spring that check supreme court overturned roe v. Wade. There was report about Two Georgia Women who died because the states strict Abortion Ban resulted in delayeD Care but one of The One who died was Amber Thurman. In the summer of 2022 she found out she was pregnant. She already had a son that she was raising Honor Roll and plans to enroll in Nursing School so she nothing goes right time to have our children. Georges band had just got into effect. She scheduled a surgical abortion in North Carolina. On the way there, thurman and her friend got stuck in traffic and missed appointment. They cannot reschedule another one because the clinic was inundated with other patients who, like thurman, who were coming in from states were abortion have been and ban the clinic offered her Abortion Pills she could take it home but they told her to monitor self and go to the Emergency Room if complications arose. Days after taking the pills she continued to experience pain and heavy bleeding. The clinic in North Carolina told propublica that if thurman had followed up with them and present her symptoms the protocol would have been to perform a D C, a dilation anD Curettage. It is a minor procedure that involves using a spoon shaped instrument to scrape out tissue from the uterus. It is also commonly used as a method of surgical abortion under georges law, it was simply illegal. On the night of august 18th, 2022, Thurman Vomited blood and passed out at home. Her boyfrienD Called 911 and anD Came and took her to the hospital. Experts who reviewed records said it shouldve been apparent to doctors early on that she was in danger at a Dnc Wouldve been the proper course of action for under the Abortion Ban that could only be performed to save the life of the patient. It took 20 hours for doctors to finally decide to perform the procedure, even as Thurmans Health worsened and she developed sepsis. By then, it was too late to save her life. Unofficial review of her case by a committee that included doctors and other experts concluded that thurman should not have died but the strict Abortion Ban created barriers that prevented her from receiving the care she needed when she needed it. Abortion is a human rights issue. The alternative to safe and legal abortion is not the denial of freedom and bodily autonomy for women. It is forced birth, which is precisely the dystopian division of the antiabortion movement that is playing out right now in america. Abortion is also healthcare in every sense of the word. Women needed to stay healthy and to stay alive. It is healthcare because abortion is a set of specific medications and procedures that are used to end pregnancies and preserve womens lives and health and all other kinds of circumstances. Dilation anD Curettage is used to clear out the uterus. It is used for elective abortions and use for Emergency Abortions and use for incomplete miscarriages and it is also used for postpartum emergencies. It is used to save womens lives. The drug is used to save womens lives. Abortion is healthcare but when you ban it, you ban the procedures and medications used in abortion women died. N women D Complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. So, heres to now. Now available Boost Max the beard that doesnt itch. And youre using king c. Gillette on that thing . King c. Gillette . Look this beard trimmer pros got 40 length settings and this beard oils one of gqs best bearD Conditioner for soft, noitch facial hair. The best a man can get. Is king c. Gillette. Cologuard® . Cologuard. Cologuard screen for colon cancer. At home, like you want. You the Man Cologuard is for people 45 at average risk, not high risk. False positive and negative results may occur. Ask your provider for cologuard. I did it My Way voltaren. For long lasting arthritis Pain Relief. before we Winter Break i spoke about how the antiabortion laws and how they fail to take a look at how certain Abortion Related Drugs and procedures are larger part of Womens Healthcare becomes a matter of life and death. For more on the consequences of State Abortion laws to invite dr. Gloria greer perry, founder of that national Birth Equity collaborative and the principal Help Equity Cipher and sits on the Board Of Trustees at the black mamas matter alliance. Good to see you. Thank you for joining us. Yesterday, harris was at a Campaign Event in georgia, which is focused on reproductive rights. She mentioned Amber Thurman story. Let us listen together. Ambers mother told me that the word preventable its over and over again in her head when she learned about how her child died. The word preventable. She cannot stop thinking about the word that they spoke to her. It was preventable. There is a word preventable and there is another work, predictable. The reality is a for every story we hear of the suffering under trump Abortion Bans, there are so many other stories we are not hearing but we are suffering that is happening every day in our country. She also said this is, quote, a healthcare crisis. The Georgia State Committee that reviews Pregnancy Related Deaths operates with a two year lag, which is why we only hear about Thurmans Case now. The reality of the postop landscape is likely worse than we currently know it is. Perfect. Thank you for having me on. The point is that elective abortion what a person has the ability to make decisions for themselves. What we see across united states is that governments are deciding they should make decisions for women and the people who love them. The decision to make a Pill Or Medication that we useD Commonly for miscarriages just think about the way you had to use those words. You spent so much time trying to decide between the were abortion and taking parts out. None of that is necessary if we can agree that any Human Being has ability to make decisions for themselves and they are fully human they are not that is what this conversation is about. Who has the ability to control their own bodies . Sorry, i cant hear you. The discussion we are having specifically about the abortion drugs is that they sometimes have multiple purposes. They do. They are used on a Crash Cart. It may not sound unreasonable but they should be stored in a certain way and things have to happen. That is a different discussion. If you ask you might need them to save someones life, which we have seen examples of. Women who die or come close to death or lose her reproductive organs because they cannot get the treatment they need. You are having in that same effect as banning abortion. And i would say having them on a Crash Cart is actually death causing, truthfully. The first pill works for abortion is that it was used in brazil. People then were giving it to patients across the World Word were signal has to be put in a Crash Carpet youre taking some but should be readily available to ensure people do not die anybody inside of a Crash Cart. Does that make sense . You are creating a barrier. It seems like there is still a disconnect in terms of understanding why abortion is healthcare. A woman shared her story on the show recently, who is dangerously delayed in getting treatment for a ruptured placenta after she gave birth to a healthy baby because the procedure to remove the placental tissue that was causing her to bleed is a dnc. It is used across Womens Healthcare. I dont get you did a beautiful opening. All of those words mean the same thing. A D C is an abortion. It is just like weapon i the word socialism. I once did a townhall with the head of healthcare for the state of louisiana. He said obamacare was socialism. I said to him, do you think Lsu Football is socialism . We take words and it just means the government investing something good but we take the word D C and we make it mean Body Parts and babies. That is not what it means. Not a medical definition. I dont have a better way to explain it for people not interested in the truth. They purposely lied to us. If you are a physician or medical professional and you are participating in the conversation that there is something that is not Mifepristone And Misoprostol should be inside a crass card, you are being intellectually dishonest. You do not attend Medical School that i know of. The Weight Louisiana describes the substances that there would be some potential for dependency. It is debatable. You medical people need to debate why drugs are classified as restricted or not often addiction, dependency or dangers. These drugs do not fall into those categories . No, they dont. Our governor is catholic. I am baptist. There is a large belief in some parts of the catholic community, not all, there is a belief that we must ensure life at all cost. They believe that life begins at conception. You hear about preconception choice. When you use the worD Conception, we are saying the only purpose of a uterus is to conceive. People live without ever having children. That entire language with the wording and how we use words actually really matters. Dr. Joia, thank you for joining us. Shes a founder and we have a Young Adult Cult Classic Uglies by scott westerfeld. It is a society where every 16 yearold undergoes a government mandated Plastic Surgery. Uglies grapples with Loyalty Versus Conformity and the reality of authority. Citis industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries. And help a partner like the World Food Programme as they provide more than food to people in need. 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The scope feels wider. For much of the Book Talley lacks the strength, Confidence And Selflessness typical of a heroin. She is not from The Hunger Games or jonas from the giver. She is a normal teenage girl reluctant to challenge the world around her and dedicated to her friends. Her moral growth anD Call to action begins as subtle. It is highly accessible published in 2005. Uglies has become a Cult Classic Beloved by readers for generations. The themes the books grapple with have only become more prevalent, timely and more present in the years since then, particularly the idea of beauty. Since 2005, beauty and what society demands has entirely change. Even the idea of beauty is more fluid and everchanging that it has ever been. There is one moment when talley shows her best friend, shea, her a. I. Driven filter that shows uglies what they will look like after surgery. Here is option two. This talley was sleek with Deep Green cat like eyes and a wide mouth that curled into a knowing smile. That is pretty different. Yeah, i doubt is even legal. Talley tweaked the Eye Shape parameters pulling the arch of the eyebrow down to almost normal. The next talley was a much more standard morphological model with almond shaped brown eyes, straight black hair with long bangs and dark lips set to maximum fullness. Although the stakes are much Harper Talley and her friends, what they face with in this society, choosing individuality over conformity, selflove, the realities of friendship and loyalty, Identity And Autonomy and what authority truly means is not much different than what Teenage Girls face today. Yet, uglies was removed from Library Circulation in madison county, mississippi, or so card shirred socalled Mature Content. These novels exist and a legacy of Book Bans anD Challenges. These books of force their readers to confront the worst Case Scenario anD Critically consider the realities of what that might look like. I guess for parents and School Board members in mississippi, that is unacceptable. After a quick break i will be joined by scott westerfeld, the New York times bestselling author of numerous young adult books including todays velshi banned Book Club feature , uglies. Hayden the fact st. Jude will take care of all this, this is whats keeping my Baby Girl alive. Chelsea its everything for us. We wouldnt know what to do. We couldnt afford for our Little Girl to survive. And st. Jude gives us that. [music playing] chase really knows how to put the hart in your local community. See what i did there . Hey, jackie evan, My Guy youre helping them with savings, right . i wish i had someone like evan when i started. Somebody just got their first Debit Card Ice cream on you . Ooo, tacos i got you. Wait hold on, dont you owe me money . 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It is a part of your life where you try to figure out which roles are important and which are not. When you are a little kid you get lots of rules. You realize some of them are just made up and some of them will save your life as a teenager you push those boundaries and figure out which ones are real and which ones arent. It is really important information at a Human Being. It should be Mature Content are kept away from young people . It is a jerk on pat it is the safest place to explore the ideas rather than in real life by driving too fast or not putting on their seatbelt. In the Book Tally sneaks into new pretty town to find her friend. It says the Party Towers were already lit up. Flickering pathways through the pleasure guarded. A few hot air balloons pulled up the tethers against the darkening pink sky. Their Passenger Shooting safe the fireworks at other balloons and passing paris sailors. Safety fireworks are a number of symbols that underscore superficiality, things that look beautiful and have no particular substance. Tell me more about this idea. Fireworks are one of those things are kind of useless but everyone loves them. I think that is a characteristic of beauty in general. We all want things are beautiful in our life whether or not they serve a particular function. People are like that too. We like pretty people, beautiful faces, elegant things around us. That is an important part of being a human, making beauty. Requiring other people to be beautiful and saying that you only beauty and you only a certain kind of face and look for a certain kind of body is where that goes awry. One of the things we mentioned in the intro is the technology that allows uglies to experiment with how they are going to look after their surgery. The book was published in 2005. The stuff you wrote about was almost fantasy. Now it is real. Now we have this a. I. That can say what you will look like before and after Surgery Pretend about how this book has grown in this time. It was because i knew some Teenage Girls who were getting elastic surgery when they were 17 or 16. Maybe you will have a different opinion about that knows when you get older. Maybe you should wait a minute. It was very much about Plastic Surgery. Now the universe has caught up to it and The World We Live In is one where we all think about how we coulD Change our face every Day Everyone is on instagram. Anyone on any social Media Platform is using Face Tune and filters anD Changing themselves. It is about making a decision about your face, which is something we did not have to do. It is much more present than it ever was because we use the Social Media Applications or we are on our Teams Calls so you are staring at your face and away we were not only are growing up. When growing up, if we do not see them here, we were not looking at our face. You never look at the person you are talking to. You worry about your own background. Did i put the right bookshelves behind me . We all have our own tv channel. That concerned with appearances and was surface and with services on screens, everyone has a time they have got to impress today. One of the interesting things is friendship and loyalty. Talk to me about that within the context of a dystopian book. When i was young, i hung out with older kids in High School and then they all graduated. I was left alone. That is what happens with tally at the beginning of uglies. Her friends have all turned 16 and she is left alone. She need someone who has the exact same birthday as her. We will never leave each other and become pretty on the same day and go through every stage of life on the same day. They decide we have to be fast friends forever. That is a recognizable thing to kids these days. Sometimes your friends leave you pretty late mature faster than you or go to college. In this context the friend who shares her birthday, you and that person will have a lot in common. When you turn pretty, is not just an operation. It turns you into an adult. Someone whose ideas are worth listening to and whose voice is important. You become a real person. Before then you are just an ugly we tend to concentrate on the books. A lot of books are made into movies. In the movie, books are banned. They are somewhat present in the book. Why the change . Books are being banned all over united states. It is updating the movie to be a little more like the present. Also, there is the set where they go, which he runs away from the city. She finds herself in nature and she realizes the most important thing about the natural world is that it does not need an operation to be beautiful it is just beautiful the way it is. How can a sunset and a Tree And Paul can be beautiful without any help . We need filters and surgery and make up. Walden pond it was such a perfect example of that, finding beauty and finding yourself in nature. We thought we would just add that as a Trend Report in the future. Thank you for joining us and become bring a member of the velshi banned Book Club. Scott westerfeld is newest member of the velshi banned Book Club. And author of numerous books including todays feature uglies. The podcast is back for a second season. This Weeks Episode Export two critically acclaimed additions to the american immigration literary canon. How the Garcia Girls Lost Their Accents by Julia Alvarez and american street. Both novels examine what becomes of identity when confronted with the Push And Pull of cultural heritage, Contemporary American Young Adulthood and the desire to belong. Dont miss it. New episodes every thursday. Download and listen to the first three episodes wherever you get your podcasts. If you use apple podcast, subscribe to Msnbc Premium for ad free listening and early access to every episode the week before it drops. That does it for me you can catch me back here Tomorrow Morning at 10 00 a. M. To noon eastern. The Katie Phang Show begins right now. I am Katie Phang live from Msnbc Studios in washington d. C. And here is the week that was