Brutality in the hamas, the palestine, the frontier, many many people, because more than two two Million People they are living over there, the most the smallest, the smallest of country in the world and the the most figure of population in the world at the same time, so the cat would be very high and nobody can stop this, so its better to say, that the word itself, its a recall for the world, better to stand in voice and to stop israel and gaza itself, mean all the powers, lets put the arms on the ground and to stop the cage of this, i have other word me because i have to try to collect the, mean some information that what will have happen and try to analyze what gonna be tomorrow the scene for me, yeah really. Im shocked already, yeah, well ash, some um, corners of what im looking at in terms of some of the analysis coming into the picture, based on different uh sources, uh, indicates that uh, there wont be any negotiations between israel and palestinians, but rather outside uh of the two, where other countries are going to be involved in backdoor negotiations in order to bring this to some kind of a. Of which that is obviously unknown, what, of which countries do you think will play a pivotal role in making that happen when it comes to this uh reaching some kind of end and its hard to figure out and even imagine what the end result will be, because based on the at least the sentiment coming from the palestinian side is that they want their freedom back, so thats thats their goal behind this operation. I dont know. But im guessing iran will be a player because iran has been one of the most consistent allies of the palestinian people, but as for the backdoor negotiations with whom we dont know, um, because in order to have a backdow negotiation to ally, that ally has to be trusted for both parties, but unfortunately israels allies which is mostly and the us do not have that trust, they people know that if you sign a treaty with either of these countries, israel or britain, they can theyll just one day go, rip it up, and so um, very, its very difficult, um, hopefully well see maybe brazil, this year, lula has been trying get to get more involved and hes making stronger and stronger statements against the war in uk. And so maybe brazil might be involved, may try to, may try to make stronger statements and may try to be backdoor negotiator, just by the fact that this year, ever since hes been reelected, hes been a much stronger figure and hes been much bolder on the international stage, but this is just me guessing, i could be completely wrong. All right, since youve mentioned, must say that the iban said the used, surprise attack was a sign of increased by hamas, was a sign of increased confidence among the palestinians in the fight against israel, um, and were looking at the another statement, in this operation, the element of surprise and other combined methods were we showed the palestinian peoples confidence in the face of the occupiers. Fashied, thats really not beat around the bush any longer and uh see when when the palestinians want uh. Their freedom and they want to achieve security, stability and peace, and for the occupation to end, i mean thats not is, is that realistic . I mean, can do you think that they can they can actually achieve that . I mean, the reason why i ask it that way is because when you take a look at the actions of some of these far right um ministers like itmar ben gaveer, thats not, they are not the the type, theyre not of the breed that would even negotiate on Something Like that, they want all of palestine, and they wouldnt care if palestinians were to exist or not, uh, you know, what palestinian, palestinians are looking for is not only peace, they are they land back, because the land is occupied. By another by another fake state, the problem is the the land, not nothing else, because you have the right to leave, and you lose it already, so many, many countries, as the other guests stated that the many other countries like iran is involved with support the hamas and support of the israel, one or two, maybe more, nothing else, and the supporters of the other occupation is is the rest of the world, very small part of the world. And they call it with gaza, Something Like very small piece of the world, is trying to insist against the occupation, and we call it the resistance, this is not only fact, this is is Something Like metaphysic, a type of living, a type of reaching or achieving your your ideals, the ideal is living, just living in peace. Just living in their own land, so for this reason the involvement of iran, the involvement of maybe some countries like iran that they are supporting like lebanon, like i mean yeman, is not enough, the rest of the world is think about the right of living of the palesty people, and they are not thinking about that, but the first step, but the first seconds that they started this operation, i mean the the. The israeli part, they call and they recall for their support to the israel, the occupation, what is the expecting for . Nothing, means that they have, they have to prolong this kind of operations, they have to repeat this kind of operation, this is not the first time and it would be not the last one, they want their land back, because this is their own land, nothing else, thank you. All right, lets bring in wafal udeni uh who joins us uh to share with us her thoughts on this, who is a gaza based journalist, um, well dating, welcome, tell us whats going on there right now, we are looking at unfortunate numbers if youre there uh of about um, i believe 200 palestinians unfortunately or close to it to have been uh um murdered based on uh the information that we have, and along with that, tell us uh your thoughts as to whats happening . While dany do you have us . Okay, it seems like we unfortunately lost her, it would have been nice to uh get a viewpoint there from gaza city. Um, so before we get her back on, esha, one of the things we have not touched on, and i dont know if youve actually seen this, theres a a video thats gone viral um, and it is uh is. A scene of Israeli Settlers, lots of them, tens or maybe even hundreds of them that are running away and and it looks like an open field, i dont know if its a desert or not, but its gone viral on social media uh showing how scared they are, if this is a authentic video, what reaction and impact is this going to have on israelis as a whole who have now seen what theyre they will be dealing with, especially the settlers who have. So harshly against the palestinians . Oh, um, basically, um, okay, the it looks like its an old footage, but i could be wrong, i just quickly googled it, um, if they are in fact running away, the like the way Israeli Settlers recruit or very aggressively get people is that they say that this is going to be our enclave, um, it will be an area where palestinians arent around when we have 24hour security and so forth and so on, so they try to convince ordinary israels who arent necessarily inclined to settle in west bank and gaza to come and settle, and of course if they are not able to protect uh their settlements, it will have a big impact on new settlers, new settlers are less likely to come because theres no reason to come, they have plenty of. Areas in israel where they can go living, so thats the one thing, um, the second thing is that the Israeli Settlers were often, would often abuse um palestinians in the most unbelievable way, few years ago there was a ceremony where a house burnt palestinians house burnt down, and these Israeli Settlers were actually celebrating the death of infant in that house that burnt down, um, so they even in israel have a very a very Bad Reputation for being extremely inhumane and right wing, and they were criticized on israeli tv itself, so i dont. Dont see them getting a warm welcome if they decide to leave, but them running away is also not going to garner much sympathy for them because their actions in the past, god knows how long how many years have actually been pretty gruesome and violent, and another thing is that lot of these settlers are not israeli, some of them come from america and australia, so they are completely foreign settlers that are that they claim their jewish heritage, so with the. Combination of these um, if they are running away from the settlements out of fear, it really harms their reputation, but i dont see them gardering any sympathy on either side. All right, some of the reactions that are coming through uh on this um we need to uh actually cover, you have the us secretary of state anthony blincon who has now uh said we unequivocally condemn the appling attacks by hamas and it calls it a terrorist organization against israel, freshid, why is it that the narrative that the us and European Countries play out against uh the resistance fighters is always uh void of the deaths that are happening on the palestinian side, for the past year or during this past year, there have been 250 palestinians that have been killed, which some compare that to a form of ethnic cleansing, why is that overlooked when it comes to the us. And European Countries, okay, does, okay, do we have odeini with us . Not yet, uh, we are still trying to get her back to get a viewpoint from gaza city, the question that i have is uh, the way that the palestinian deaths uh are always overlooked. Such as what the us reaction has been on this and not only in this war but previous wars along with European Countries who always seem to overlook not only the deaths that are happening on the palestinian side, which at best they say is unfortunate, but the daily if not almost daily killings that have happened throughout the past year, why is there not a reaction uh to that, but yet for this really side, theres lots of compassion. Well, thats how. Manufacture consent if people were to start seeing palestinians as actual people who bleed, die have their heart broken, its going to make it much harder for them to continuously and unwavoringly support israel as their little puppet state in the middle east thats kind of meant to destabilize the rest of the middle east um and with blincon statement um im just reading it we on the yeah um so they have not talked about the the, i dont know if you call it retaliation, but netanyahu right now says, we are at war, so so israel made declaration of war, and blincon has completely ignored that, and um, and they does he even know about this, because not about an hour ago literally said, we are at war, and so this kind of shows also his car his ability to not the step like not knowing his generalness that follows him everywhere, so it definitely reflects bad on blincan, but with the us state, yeah, it is very deliberate propaganda, i remember when something some israel bombed an area and it was about 2014 in New York Times and it said israel hamas stronghold and it was a school and the first two dets were like four year old and a sixyearold and um and then youre like, wait a minute, this kinds like a really blatant headline, eventually they changed it because it was so igrigious, but you cannot work in western media without bowing to the israel narrative. I have friends like katie helper who worked for the hill got fired when shes jewish too and she got fired. Nate robinson got fired from the guardian after five years after he made a statement against israel, so is making a statement against israel is often the red line for journalists that they cant cross. And that will immediately get them fired from their job. Um, i can think of way more examples, so it is very censored environment where anyone who treats palestinians as human, not even supporting israel, like theres a woman from code pink, ariel gold, shes from israel, um, she does lot of activism and she supports palestine, and she was doing a protest about the water and in gaza, she cant go back to israel, even though she was born there, so there is a big, strong, concerted censorship effort in the west that prevents even recognizing palestinians as existing, and any anything more than that. All right, were going to run some footage now, um, footage that we deem important, this is on the border between gaza and the occupied palestinian territories when the fighters actually are executing their offensive. As we can see there, those are the palestinian fighters, excuse me, making their way through there, and theres a tank there, as you just saw, and uh, they are targeting the israeli forces, the arm wing of hamas, um, unveiling the rocket used inside operation against israel, so this also is a display of the hamas and the resistance fight. Theres a military power and this is on the border, theres the tank, this could be the tank that uh actually uh was taken in captivity which had that israeli soldier inside of it, but here were seeing how the resistance fighters uh executed their operation which started about five six hours ago, operation by the name of alqs flood, and you can see the fence there and the resistance fighter. So its quite remarkable in terms of how this whole operation took place, which cant be said enough as to uh the depth of it and the different tactics that were used in this operation. Basic question that comes about here and and i and think ive said it and asked it a number of vocations asha and im going to ask again, is is is this uh an operation . Which may be one the if not an operation that will be the last attempt in in a way, the last push by the resistance fighters to make sure that they liberate their land, because it just uh it just seems like theres a point of no return here, these are this is not like the previous four wars uh that happened, and im wondering if theres going to be a positive outcome coming out of this, is a positive outcome and i would hate to think that this is the last push. Um, i hope this is a strategic push where theyve discussed the strategy and they are following the strategy that will give them a possibility of victory or a concession. Um, it really depends on how much weapons they have been able to store and how many they have been able to hold, and we we really dont dont know, and um, i hope its not the last bitch, um, it does look disproportionately strong compared to the others, and they seem to have accumulated stronger weapons and are able to hit harder and longer range, so um, unfortunately, victory for no one is guaranteed, so this is also true, so it might be defeat, it might lead to something, new negot intermediate negotiation, we dont know, um, whats important, i guess is to continue fighting and to see where the new multipolar land, world lands and what i noticed even with us and canada is that people who are under 40 overwhelmingly do not support israel, the younger they are, the less they support israel, um, israel is really stand on the backs of few very old oligarchy from opinion polls and their support from the us and canada is not going to last forever, because this is very shaky foundation, its like a house of what is it, whats that house of whatever it is, cards, um, so i think there may be some the events are going on right now, and right . Now since everyone is occupied with israel, mean sorry ukraine, other allies literally dont have like slovakia and some of them gave all their weapons, they dont have. Weapons to replace it with, like theyre waiting for nato cases, so very few allies of israel can come to that much of aid too right now, so the timing seems right, um, but other than that, we just have to wait and see to see what their strategy is and how many, how much weapons they have, how many um soldiers they are able to gather, how they train them, so thats going to be a. A big challenge, and recently, um, if you want to look a Successful Operation like that, we have to look at the danyetk and lugank republics who were able to fight off nato weapons in ukraine and unbelievable, Human Rights Violations for about eight years, and thats maybe about the size of gaza, i think its theyre a little bigger, but not too much, um, so they can maybe theyve been a recent example of success, so so knows about the success or failure, but it is important, i guess keep on resisting, yeah, sifting through some of the videos that are happening, it just doesnt look good in terms the different towns in uh israel, looking in particular at uh what uh is happening there in uh ashqalan of which uh it looks like well it is a war zone uh its you have dead bodies that are spewed on the streets there this particular one is happening in ashkalon from what im understanding based on this video uh which again puts into question whether this is something that is all or nothing in terms of what it wants to achieve because im pretty sure that israel cannot afford for this to happen again um israel as it was was on a rocky standing if you agree in terms of what was happening from within israel. In terms of the socalled judicial reforms that have rocked uh that entity for quite some time, accompanied by a massive exit of of israelis, this war perhaps is going to uh amplify the numbers. Do you think that thats something israel needs to worry about now . Uh, doubt that, um, unless theres like a really really harsh war, you wont see many people leaving. The area i dont think they have to worry about it right now, but if it continues and it continues in a kind of like normal war, eventually, yes, um, as for this, um, the footage, that i can see um, it doesnt look that bad except for a tank is burning, um, it looks must, it looks like a typical, it looks actually less bad than uh, what was . Going on in danietsk and lugansk during their war against ukraine is what i can say but yeah um it does we dont honestly we cant really predict the future about what israel will do but their allies right now will not be coming with the weapons aid at this time sure um some reactions that are coming through uh but bottom of your screen is worthy no worthy to point out where syria has said uh what it did in terms of the uh operation itself and the success that it has had, and the deputy haad of hamas saying that flood, which is the name of this operation, is a battle that will expand and escalate and even deepen, based on that particular statement coming from the deputy haad of hamas, it shows that this operation has not even been fully executed, so it shows the guess the military prowiss that uh the resistance groups have, were understanding that all the resistance groups are involved in this operation. Uh, im looking a snapshot of what happened in the year 2015, the israel aggression towards palestinians then, you had about 14,000 or so settlers who stormed the alalas compound, about 200 palestinians to have been killed, 16,200 injured, you had 6,830 to be detained, 539 home demolitions, and 742 palestinians forced to leave their home. Thats just a snapshot of what happened in the year 2015, this process has been going off for years and years, so isnt this just natural occurrence of what were looking at and maybe its uh its a Long Time Coming in terms of the depth of this operation, but do you think the world actually realizes that as as its looking into what is happening today . Most of the world probably not, they have very short memories and they. Do not realize that this wall, this kind of bloccade has been going on for nearly 20 years already, um, let alone and so, but the world. As in if you ignore the us and European Countries, rest of the world do understand what settler colonialism is and what israel is doing is settler colonialism, not unlike south africa, and there is lot of sympathy, but lot of these countries are under the thumb of some puppet leader from the us, lucky recently, niger was able to get rid of their puppet leader. And form like a council and it seems like right now burkina fasa niger mali and maybe chad i dont remember one one of the they were on the sif zone theyve been able to drive out france from and kind of have their own block of independence so as they get more powerful more countries might join and so you might get support from other places the palestine will get support from other places once those countries are in a better state of development um so thats all we have to think about and israel is stuck with the friends they have and lot of the friends they have are declining powers like france um right now neej has i dont i dont know but france was taking uranium from nij at 80 cents per kilogram on the market nij just increased it 250 eur, like thats how much france is stealing, and france has lost that golden, golden goose, and so its a declining power, um, uk is having a lot of domestic crisis and its also a declining power, so i just think that the global map of who can and who cannot support or who can and cannot institute a negotiation will be changing lot in the next five years. So it wont always be this way where it always feels like its david versus goliat, because there are few more countries that are going to be joining on the side of david. All right, we have uh new guest joining us, bruno viclini, whos an academic and political analyst who joins us from brazil. Bruno beclini, welcome to the program, um, its quite incredible, the uh depth of this operation thats taking place as we speak, which has not ended, the offensive by palestinian. Resistance fighters uh is taking on new dimensions where it is now involving also the sea and uh there could be possibilities of another offensive to take place on the border area between the ghaza strip and the occupied territories uh the unfortunate side of things is that the deathtul is mounting 200 on the palestinian side of number of palestinians have been killed and on the israel side you have hundred that have been killed there thousands that have been injured um from the palestinian side well a thousand and israeli site about 750 just uh for an update of which theres a number of Israeli Soldiers that are in captivity along with many israelis in general uh what what is your take on the way that this war is carrying out itself in terms of uh how can there ever be after like before meaning could the occupied palestinian lands actually be liberated after this is there a possibility that you see given what were looking at right now uh thats the thats the question i ive been ive been answering myself about this for example do this design this entity will attack the galilee border or will damage some some hezbollah objectives another question will they open a new front we will have a reaction from the surian border which is attacted seems 10 years. Now every single week the israel keeps bombing against the surian infrastructure for example, i think, i think that now we are facing wonderful capability not only of hamas, but the full and coordinated resistance factions, besides the sectarian uh challenges and and argues between them just like what we saw in 2021 in the operations for of of jerusalem of sward of alaxa and now its the quite same situation. I think so that this momentum is very important because for example Bashar Alasad went to beijing last week and made wonderful agreements for Economic Development in surian territory. Less than week after this, the it was a takfirist attack against the homes uh
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