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Little bit earlier about running castles who is a jew, who is with the palestinians . I dont know about his knowledge of the taura or what sect of judaism he might belong to, but what i do know, muslim that true to jews, jews that are true to the that was revealed to moses or what is left of us . They are true to the nether in the kit, they are true to the shirhashirim, the song of songs in the talmud in which they made an oath that they will never ever, so ladies and gentlemen, for those of you just joining us, we were just covering a propalestinian and pro hamas rally taking place in the south african uh city of cape town, the uh grandson of the great Nelson Mandela was also addressing uh. Gathering uh little earlier, and now were also turning our attention to the yemeni capital sauna where you can see uh propalestinian demonstrators have taken to of the streets as far as the eye can see. Activist in political commentators joining us now on the line from the emmy capital sunna to tell us more about first of all the demonstrations that are taking place mr. Welcome to the program uh give us uh give us first of all your perspective. The massive demonstrations that are taking place right now in the yemeny capital so millions of yemenes have taken today to the street not only but as well in all cities like in huda in damar in hajja and showing a full support for the Palestinian Resistance against the latest Israeli Occupation and attack and there are as an example there are a huge pressure here in sana from yemen towards the yemen army to take a serious step to stop junicide against palestian people we all know that palestinian are well equipped and they will defend their country whatever it takes but we as yemanies should take as well a step either to attack the science state of israel because we are now well equipped as say abdul malik have said three days ago that we can attack israel continue with it aggression and we have seen in the latest parade military parade in in sanaa weeks ago that they have shown new Ballistic Missiles called it has the same name of the operation that was taken against israel by hamas with tufan and thats why i believe that access of resistance to take step from lebanon to syria, to iraq, to iran, to yemen, because i believe if israel will succeed in in in breaking the will of the palestinian at this time, im sure i mean, they are not, they cannot do it, but if this will happen, this mean its the end of the act of resistance, because if we are not going to help the palestinian at this time. Of course taken up to the street show solidarity is one step, but i believe that military step is should be taken nearby, because palestinian are being killed in hundreds every day and we are, we have an obligation for the Palestinian People to take steps and i believe that the yemani army might take steps in the coming days. Right of uh, i also believe we still have uh Barry Grossman uh internationally are joining us from bolly, mr. Grossman, we were looking at uh the uh demonstration. Uh as uh it was taking place in cape town in south africa um some of the comments are fully in support of the Palestinian People and the Palestinian Resistance uh uh groups like hamas how uh overwhelming is it to see this level of support that the palestinians uh are receiving a a worldwide scale . Well its it its fabulous of course uh. If only we could see that manifest into action by governments around the world and there was nothing said by the people who spoke in south africa just now that i could find any of contention very well stated the position, but we come back to the question, what is the anc government doing, why does it consistently require something approaching civil. Unrest before governments will start to take into account the well considered position of their own citizenry in taking steps to stop the brutalization of people uh in other parts of the world by by Atlantic World governments its its its its a great tragedy but were seeing this now around the world were certainly seeing it throughout the. Islamic world and were seeing more and more of it in Atlantic World countries to the point where i think it was in the uk uh yesterday one member of parliament proposed making it a crime even way a palestinian flag um but the the the support is no doubt very well appreciated by those people are trying to stay stay alive in gaza right now and who feel forgotten by the world. Now if we could see it translate into some other form of support, but not entered into too, rash, there may be work for progress, thomas has made it very clear that theyre not prepared to to back down this time, this is not going to be over quickly, and theyre not going to fly the you, stop the battle in order to deal with. Negotiation, their demands are very clear, they want the palestinian state to be universally recognized by the rest of the world, and they want to uh end the victimization of palestinians throughout the region, including an occupied palestine or what an occupation likes to call israel, nothing less than that can do, and the more noise that israeli politicians make, the more makes you wonder what kind of lunatics are in power there, when they start calling for Nuclear Bombs to be dropped on gaza and equating palestinians with with being animals, you really have to scratch your head and wonder whether israel is not the most unstable rogue nation on earth that has ready access to Nuclear Weapons and has a program in place to use those Nuclear Weapons against every major capital in europe and in the middle east, thanks lot sir, international lawyer, barry grasson joining us from bali, indonesia, we now turn our attention to executive director of Afro Middle East Center, naim gina joining us from johannesburg, welcome to the program, lets start off with uh your opinion on the demonstration that we were just watching a little earlier uh in cape town in africa where uh the grandson of Nelson Mandela, south african mp, Mandela Mandela was addressing the crowd in full support of palestinian uh resistance and the palestinian cause as well. All right, naim gina is not ready uh yet, but uh, we are establishing that connection and well be hearing from our guest in johannesburg, immediately. All right, im being told by the control room that we do have uh naim gina allow me to introduce our guest once again, executive director of the Afro Middle East Center from johannesburg, uh, naim gina, give us your uh thoughts, your opinion on the demonstration that we were just watching a little earlier uh in cape town in support of the Palestinian Resistance and the palestinian cause. Well, weve had demonstrations in different parts the country throughout this. Week, i think by today we probably, you know, probably around 20 demonstrations in different parts of the country, starting at the beginning of the week and then a day of. Action on wednesday, and essentially the message going out, two, two messages, one is that south africans, are in support of the resistance against israel in in all its forms, and secondly condemning the actions of israel in gaza since around around sunday, how do you . Express, how would you break down the uh uh massive level of support that were seeing palestinians receive in their darkest hour right now uh as gazans are going through this deadly uh israeli onslot we see so many cities so many people out on the streets holding up the palestinian flag chanting slogans and support of the Palestinian Resistance do you believe that there is increased level of Global Awareness when it comes to the uh to the issue. Palestine right now, i think over the years, globally, the the support for the palestinian cause has certainly been increasing in various ways, despite the massive amounts of money that israel spends on its on its propaganda, its husbara programs slowly the the truth has been filling through to people about whats really happening, about israels illegal occupation, it illegal and its apart practices which are illegal, and people are understanding that more and more and so weve seen the numbers of these kinds of protest, even from famous celebrities etc. , but i think one particular thing about the current this weeks protest is that the the the level of lies and propaganda coming out from the israeli side has increased considerably and and one would then think that lot of kind of. Liberalminded people might not be want might not want to be associated with the palestinian cause of the resistance because the kinds of things that have been said, but thats not the case, people are still coming out and i think that this this means that globally solidarity with palestine is increasing, and and you know we we hope that that will translate into kind of real pressure on governments to reduce the support of israel. Hossan he is uh with us on the line from the yemeny capital sana. The uh the reactions that uh weve seen from uh from various resistance fronts with regards to the israeli onslot on the gaza strip. Hezbollah has chimed in, Kataib Hezbollah has also voiced their support for the palestinian cause and their opposition. To the israeli onslot on gaza, also uh the leader of uh uh the uh yeameni Huthi Movement Abdul Malik Al huthi has also expressed his readiness uh to uh engage the uh israelis should the opportunity arise uh how important is it to see this level of unity in the face of the Israeli Aggression and deadly raids and attacks against the palestinians in gaza. Yeah, this is exactly what happened, because the z state of israel thought that he will continue, masculine palestinian continue boming their homes, their cities, their villages and he thought that this might break the palestinian, but actually what happened is the opposite, we have heard just in the last few minutes that israel has admitted that. A Missile Launch from gazza has reach north of israel, which about 250 kilometers away, just show you exactly that the palestinian when they have conducted the attack against israel, they havent used their full strength, because they know that the response of israel, they need to have more surprises for the state of israel by attacking it as they did in the last few couple of. But we seen what when i say that this attack against gaz will actually back fire we have seen now there is a unity there is a global outrage a Global Solidarity for the palestinian not only from the access of resistance like from lebanon or iraq or iran or yemen but as well from south africa from people protesting in france in uk as well in spain and many other uh country, thats why i think at this time, we should take this in our advantage, because let me make it clear, if the entire world. Will go outside in the street to protest as long as israel is getting support from the United States, as long as they are able to conduct that attack against the palestinian, they will continue, thats why i believe that the next step to use this unity and major Global Solidarity with the palestinian to take the second step, like hizbullah have done, he was one, i can say the only member of the resistance that have. Takes serious steps by attacking israel and i believe if yemen is not going to do that and syria and other country like iraq, i believe that israel actually might succeed in breaking the palestinians because at the end we see that they have cut the water, they have cut the electricity, they have cut everything from from from gaza, and you know that people need those to survive, thats why the palestinian. Distance should be supported by military force because whats taken by force will only be returned by force back to back to naim gina in johannesburg, what do you make of the uh the lopsided and uh often uh describe twisted Mainstream Media coverage of whats taking place . With the with regards to the palestinians and of course the attacks that are being carried out right now against the gaza strip uh in so many of these depictions the israelis are portrayed as as the victim this is of course something that we are used to the the manner in which israelis versus palestinians are generally portrayed and as you know every. Former onslot on raza that has taken place, um, its its presented in the israeli, but also generally western media, in a way as if its almost like a video game, you know, bombing people in gaza, this time round, i think its gone into overdrive if you like, and thats of course because the nature of the struggle has also changed, in the past it was usually israelis bombing palestinians and then making it seem as if you south. Or whatever they like to call it, um, this time the Palestinian Resistance has turned things around, the the initiative was taken by the resistance, and so one should expect, i think that the media onslot from the from the pro israeli side globally, will also be a much higher level, and thats what we see, i mean, these stories about babies being beheaded and women being raped, etc. With no, with no evidence. Is you know all across the world, major newspapers in in in the western world are carrying these stories, of course, in most of these cases they a day later they forced to apologize because they realize that its its fake, but their initial instinct is that it must be true because israel is true and so they they run with it, unfortunately from the side of the from the palestinian side and the side of the Palestinian Resistance in general i think, um, i, im not sure that that the the kind of war of images, if we could call it that, is up to the same level as the israeli side, and i think that certainly the palestinian side needs to up its game in in that regard, but of course its against kind of wall of pro israeli sentiment in the media, in the west, back to with us on the line from the capital son, i want to address the same question to you, mr. Albukhaiti, what do you make, okay, im just being told that mr. Hossin is not available on the phone, however we do thank him for contributing uh to uh to this segment of the program, live images that were getting now from the amene capital sonna, we can see. Uh demonstrators uh bearing the palestinian flag uh are out on the streets in support of uh of palestine and uh and gasans whove uh been bearing uh unprecedented asymmetrical attacks being carried out by the israels since uh the gaza based resistance movements launched operation alaxa flood on saturday. Back to mr. Naim geinas joining us from johannesburg, you talked to us right now about the hypocrisy in the Mainstream Media, lets also uh get to get your. Perspective on the hypocrisy that were seeing from certain western countries when it comes uh to uh to the events that are taking place in palestine, just some examples off the top of my head, british officials on one hand uh show their support uh for for ukraine with comments like we support ukraine in the face the occupation and then fast forward to events that are taking place uh in gaza today, the very same. British officials uh would say that uh we give our full support to the israelis to the Occupying Force and uh uh they give they basically place their full weight behind the occupation uh how do you explain that hypocrisy uh that we see amongst various officials from allies of of the israelis . I dont think its hypocrisy, its what i would call a. Shocks of consistency and inconsistency. On the one hand, these western powers, british, us are entirely and extremely consistent, they always support israel no matter what, on the other hand, of course theyre entirely inconsistent, because the reasons for which they they they they support israel, when the same reasons occur in other context, they take different positions, you know, from last year, theres been this kind of discourse about the comparison between ukraine and and the people of ukraine and what they are suffering and palestinians and the kind of support that the ukrainians receive from the west compared to the non support that palestinians do. Thats just one example, the other is what youve given about just this week, the manner in which is the israeli dead have been regarded compared to the palestinian. In dead and of course every previous onslot on ghaza its the same story, the the western governments, western states basically go along with israels narrative, i think this time round because again the initiative has been taken by the Palestinian Resistance rather than israel, this time round its there isnt even a pretense to try and cover up, i think joe biden speaches are most instructive in this regard. Basically saying that we support israel, no matter what it does, who it does it to, and you know, what, whatever the the consequences of it might be, so its its consistent on the one hand, in the support of israel, but inconsistent in terms of other context, and of course then the hypocrisy of this notion that they keep paroting of the rule of law, international law, etc. When none of them or most of them used to be bound by that law for themselves and neither israel nor the United States is a signatory to the icc. If you want rule of law, then you have a global court that deals with these things and so you should be a signatory to it so that they can be dealt with, and whether that means that israel or hamas or whoever else that might be accused of violation should be taken to such a court, then so be it, but but the United States has even threatened the the judges on the. Court and the prosecutors of that court, if they even dare to think about accusing any american, and they will protect israel against against any any kind of judicial attack from from that court, so that hypocrisy is kind of glaring, i think that on the other side, the the increasing kind of Nelson Mandela<\/a> was also addressing uh. Gathering uh little earlier, and now were also turning our attention to the yemeni capital sauna where you can see uh propalestinian demonstrators have taken to of the streets as far as the eye can see. Activist in political commentators joining us now on the line from the emmy capital sunna to tell us more about first of all the demonstrations that are taking place mr. Welcome to the program uh give us uh give us first of all your perspective. The massive demonstrations that are taking place right now in the yemeny capital so millions of yemenes have taken today to the street not only but as well in all cities like in huda in damar in hajja and showing a full support for the Palestinian Resistance<\/a> against the latest Israeli Occupation<\/a> and attack and there are as an example there are a huge pressure here in sana from yemen towards the yemen army to take a serious step to stop junicide against palestian people we all know that palestinian are well equipped and they will defend their country whatever it takes but we as yemanies should take as well a step either to attack the science state of israel because we are now well equipped as say abdul malik have said three days ago that we can attack israel continue with it aggression and we have seen in the latest parade military parade in in sanaa weeks ago that they have shown new Ballistic Missiles<\/a> called it has the same name of the operation that was taken against israel by hamas with tufan and thats why i believe that access of resistance to take step from lebanon to syria, to iraq, to iran, to yemen, because i believe if israel will succeed in in in breaking the will of the palestinian at this time, im sure i mean, they are not, they cannot do it, but if this will happen, this mean its the end of the act of resistance, because if we are not going to help the palestinian at this time. Of course taken up to the street show solidarity is one step, but i believe that military step is should be taken nearby, because palestinian are being killed in hundreds every day and we are, we have an obligation for the Palestinian People<\/a> to take steps and i believe that the yemani army might take steps in the coming days. Right of uh, i also believe we still have uh Barry Grossman<\/a> uh internationally are joining us from bolly, mr. Grossman, we were looking at uh the uh demonstration. Uh as uh it was taking place in cape town in south africa um some of the comments are fully in support of the Palestinian People<\/a> and the Palestinian Resistance<\/a> uh uh groups like hamas how uh overwhelming is it to see this level of support that the palestinians uh are receiving a a worldwide scale . Well its it its fabulous of course uh. If only we could see that manifest into action by governments around the world and there was nothing said by the people who spoke in south africa just now that i could find any of contention very well stated the position, but we come back to the question, what is the anc government doing, why does it consistently require something approaching civil. Unrest before governments will start to take into account the well considered position of their own citizenry in taking steps to stop the brutalization of people uh in other parts of the world by by Atlantic World<\/a> governments its its its its a great tragedy but were seeing this now around the world were certainly seeing it throughout the. Islamic world and were seeing more and more of it in Atlantic World<\/a> countries to the point where i think it was in the uk uh yesterday one member of parliament proposed making it a crime even way a palestinian flag um but the the the support is no doubt very well appreciated by those people are trying to stay stay alive in gaza right now and who feel forgotten by the world. Now if we could see it translate into some other form of support, but not entered into too, rash, there may be work for progress, thomas has made it very clear that theyre not prepared to to back down this time, this is not going to be over quickly, and theyre not going to fly the you, stop the battle in order to deal with. Negotiation, their demands are very clear, they want the palestinian state to be universally recognized by the rest of the world, and they want to uh end the victimization of palestinians throughout the region, including an occupied palestine or what an occupation likes to call israel, nothing less than that can do, and the more noise that israeli politicians make, the more makes you wonder what kind of lunatics are in power there, when they start calling for Nuclear Bombs<\/a> to be dropped on gaza and equating palestinians with with being animals, you really have to scratch your head and wonder whether israel is not the most unstable rogue nation on earth that has ready access to Nuclear Weapons<\/a> and has a program in place to use those Nuclear Weapons<\/a> against every major capital in europe and in the middle east, thanks lot sir, international lawyer, barry grasson joining us from bali, indonesia, we now turn our attention to executive director of Afro Middle East Center<\/a>, naim gina joining us from johannesburg, welcome to the program, lets start off with uh your opinion on the demonstration that we were just watching a little earlier uh in cape town in africa where uh the grandson of Nelson Mandela<\/a>, south african mp, Mandela Mandela<\/a> was addressing the crowd in full support of palestinian uh resistance and the palestinian cause as well. All right, naim gina is not ready uh yet, but uh, we are establishing that connection and well be hearing from our guest in johannesburg, immediately. All right, im being told by the control room that we do have uh naim gina allow me to introduce our guest once again, executive director of the Afro Middle East Center<\/a> from johannesburg, uh, naim gina, give us your uh thoughts, your opinion on the demonstration that we were just watching a little earlier uh in cape town in support of the Palestinian Resistance<\/a> and the palestinian cause. Well, weve had demonstrations in different parts the country throughout this. Week, i think by today we probably, you know, probably around 20 demonstrations in different parts of the country, starting at the beginning of the week and then a day of. Action on wednesday, and essentially the message going out, two, two messages, one is that south africans, are in support of the resistance against israel in in all its forms, and secondly condemning the actions of israel in gaza since around around sunday, how do you . Express, how would you break down the uh uh massive level of support that were seeing palestinians receive in their darkest hour right now uh as gazans are going through this deadly uh israeli onslot we see so many cities so many people out on the streets holding up the palestinian flag chanting slogans and support of the Palestinian Resistance<\/a> do you believe that there is increased level of Global Awareness<\/a> when it comes to the uh to the issue. Palestine right now, i think over the years, globally, the the support for the palestinian cause has certainly been increasing in various ways, despite the massive amounts of money that israel spends on its on its propaganda, its husbara programs slowly the the truth has been filling through to people about whats really happening, about israels illegal occupation, it illegal and its apart practices which are illegal, and people are understanding that more and more and so weve seen the numbers of these kinds of protest, even from famous celebrities etc. , but i think one particular thing about the current this weeks protest is that the the the level of lies and propaganda coming out from the israeli side has increased considerably and and one would then think that lot of kind of. Liberalminded people might not be want might not want to be associated with the palestinian cause of the resistance because the kinds of things that have been said, but thats not the case, people are still coming out and i think that this this means that globally solidarity with palestine is increasing, and and you know we we hope that that will translate into kind of real pressure on governments to reduce the support of israel. Hossan he is uh with us on the line from the yemeny capital sana. The uh the reactions that uh weve seen from uh from various resistance fronts with regards to the israeli onslot on the gaza strip. Hezbollah has chimed in, Kataib Hezbollah<\/a> has also voiced their support for the palestinian cause and their opposition. To the israeli onslot on gaza, also uh the leader of uh uh the uh yeameni Huthi Movement<\/a> Abdul Malik Al<\/a> huthi has also expressed his readiness uh to uh engage the uh israelis should the opportunity arise uh how important is it to see this level of unity in the face of the Israeli Aggression<\/a> and deadly raids and attacks against the palestinians in gaza. Yeah, this is exactly what happened, because the z state of israel thought that he will continue, masculine palestinian continue boming their homes, their cities, their villages and he thought that this might break the palestinian, but actually what happened is the opposite, we have heard just in the last few minutes that israel has admitted that. A Missile Launch<\/a> from gazza has reach north of israel, which about 250 kilometers away, just show you exactly that the palestinian when they have conducted the attack against israel, they havent used their full strength, because they know that the response of israel, they need to have more surprises for the state of israel by attacking it as they did in the last few couple of. But we seen what when i say that this attack against gaz will actually back fire we have seen now there is a unity there is a global outrage a Global Solidarity<\/a> for the palestinian not only from the access of resistance like from lebanon or iraq or iran or yemen but as well from south africa from people protesting in france in uk as well in spain and many other uh country, thats why i think at this time, we should take this in our advantage, because let me make it clear, if the entire world. Will go outside in the street to protest as long as israel is getting support from the United States<\/a>, as long as they are able to conduct that attack against the palestinian, they will continue, thats why i believe that the next step to use this unity and major Global Solidarity<\/a> with the palestinian to take the second step, like hizbullah have done, he was one, i can say the only member of the resistance that have. Takes serious steps by attacking israel and i believe if yemen is not going to do that and syria and other country like iraq, i believe that israel actually might succeed in breaking the palestinians because at the end we see that they have cut the water, they have cut the electricity, they have cut everything from from from gaza, and you know that people need those to survive, thats why the palestinian. Distance should be supported by military force because whats taken by force will only be returned by force back to back to naim gina in johannesburg, what do you make of the uh the lopsided and uh often uh describe twisted Mainstream Media<\/a> coverage of whats taking place . With the with regards to the palestinians and of course the attacks that are being carried out right now against the gaza strip uh in so many of these depictions the israelis are portrayed as as the victim this is of course something that we are used to the the manner in which israelis versus palestinians are generally portrayed and as you know every. Former onslot on raza that has taken place, um, its its presented in the israeli, but also generally western media, in a way as if its almost like a video game, you know, bombing people in gaza, this time round, i think its gone into overdrive if you like, and thats of course because the nature of the struggle has also changed, in the past it was usually israelis bombing palestinians and then making it seem as if you south. Or whatever they like to call it, um, this time the Palestinian Resistance<\/a> has turned things around, the the initiative was taken by the resistance, and so one should expect, i think that the media onslot from the from the pro israeli side globally, will also be a much higher level, and thats what we see, i mean, these stories about babies being beheaded and women being raped, etc. With no, with no evidence. Is you know all across the world, major newspapers in in in the western world are carrying these stories, of course, in most of these cases they a day later they forced to apologize because they realize that its its fake, but their initial instinct is that it must be true because israel is true and so they they run with it, unfortunately from the side of the from the palestinian side and the side of the Palestinian Resistance<\/a> in general i think, um, i, im not sure that that the the kind of war of images, if we could call it that, is up to the same level as the israeli side, and i think that certainly the palestinian side needs to up its game in in that regard, but of course its against kind of wall of pro israeli sentiment in the media, in the west, back to with us on the line from the capital son, i want to address the same question to you, mr. Albukhaiti, what do you make, okay, im just being told that mr. Hossin is not available on the phone, however we do thank him for contributing uh to uh to this segment of the program, live images that were getting now from the amene capital sonna, we can see. Uh demonstrators uh bearing the palestinian flag uh are out on the streets in support of uh of palestine and uh and gasans whove uh been bearing uh unprecedented asymmetrical attacks being carried out by the israels since uh the gaza based resistance movements launched operation alaxa flood on saturday. Back to mr. Naim geinas joining us from johannesburg, you talked to us right now about the hypocrisy in the Mainstream Media<\/a>, lets also uh get to get your. Perspective on the hypocrisy that were seeing from certain western countries when it comes uh to uh to the events that are taking place in palestine, just some examples off the top of my head, british officials on one hand uh show their support uh for for ukraine with comments like we support ukraine in the face the occupation and then fast forward to events that are taking place uh in gaza today, the very same. British officials uh would say that uh we give our full support to the israelis to the Occupying Force<\/a> and uh uh they give they basically place their full weight behind the occupation uh how do you explain that hypocrisy uh that we see amongst various officials from allies of of the israelis . I dont think its hypocrisy, its what i would call a. Shocks of consistency and inconsistency. On the one hand, these western powers, british, us are entirely and extremely consistent, they always support israel no matter what, on the other hand, of course theyre entirely inconsistent, because the reasons for which they they they they support israel, when the same reasons occur in other context, they take different positions, you know, from last year, theres been this kind of discourse about the comparison between ukraine and and the people of ukraine and what they are suffering and palestinians and the kind of support that the ukrainians receive from the west compared to the non support that palestinians do. Thats just one example, the other is what youve given about just this week, the manner in which is the israeli dead have been regarded compared to the palestinian. In dead and of course every previous onslot on ghaza its the same story, the the western governments, western states basically go along with israels narrative, i think this time round because again the initiative has been taken by the Palestinian Resistance<\/a> rather than israel, this time round its there isnt even a pretense to try and cover up, i think joe biden speaches are most instructive in this regard. Basically saying that we support israel, no matter what it does, who it does it to, and you know, what, whatever the the consequences of it might be, so its its consistent on the one hand, in the support of israel, but inconsistent in terms of other context, and of course then the hypocrisy of this notion that they keep paroting of the rule of law, international law, etc. When none of them or most of them used to be bound by that law for themselves and neither israel nor the United States<\/a> is a signatory to the icc. If you want rule of law, then you have a global court that deals with these things and so you should be a signatory to it so that they can be dealt with, and whether that means that israel or hamas or whoever else that might be accused of violation should be taken to such a court, then so be it, but but the United States<\/a> has even threatened the the judges on the. Court and the prosecutors of that court, if they even dare to think about accusing any american, and they will protect israel against against any any kind of judicial attack from from that court, so that hypocrisy is kind of glaring, i think that on the other side, the the increasing kind of Popular Support<\/a> for the palestinian struggle should not be underestimated, that while. Political elites led by the nose by zionists, both jewish and christian zionists, my take a particular position in all of these countries, the the the street is taking a very different position, mean if you look at just the United States<\/a>, from where israel gets most of its support, military, funding and all kinds of things even the Jewish Population<\/a> in the us now, just over half of them now support israel, if you look at people under 30, jews under 30, that proportion is much less, so even within the Jewish Population<\/a>, the support for israel is decreasing, even as from the political elite that support is increasing. Live images uh that were getting on the right of right hand side of your screen are from ramalah now where uh israel uh occupying Israeli Forces<\/a> uh are confronting propalestinian demonstrators of course this too is uh a common event taking place in the occupied west bank to the left of your. Screen you can see uh people taking to the streets in the tunisian capital tunis and solidarity and support of uh of the palestinians and the gazans were going through this uh unspeakable crimes of the israelis for seven days now just earlier mr. Naim gina we saw uh comments coming from the iranian president that the uh israelis carrying out these crimes are obviously getting it. Are obviously perpetrating these crimes with a green light from the United States<\/a>, would you agree with that assessment . No, absolutely, i think joe bidens given them more than the green light, hes given them a green light plus eight billion dollars to keep the light green, so theres theres unquestioning, uncritical support, and the message is is clear, do what you like, so i i think that thats you, he is quite true and correct that. But look at it from from the opposite side, the question is what kind of support can palestinians expect in this, and certainly i mean theres ratorical support from for example iran, and and maybe one other state, one or two, algeria has something of support in their statement, south africas later statement has condomsy of israeli actions in in in gaza, but apart from that, in in real terms, i think what we need to look at is while you know all of us are focused very much on whats happening in whats happening to, i should say ghaza, that theres less focus on another very important thing and that is the increasing engagement by resistance groups in the west bank with the idf and and i think that we can we can suggest that this is the. Up of second front, and whether theres a third front that opens up in the north, but hizbullah and palestinian factions from there, is an important is an important thing to consider, and if that happens, im sorry, im going to have to interrupt you there, for second, im being told by the control room, were going live now to the latest images that were getting from uh ramala in the occupied west bank, you can see uh whats taking place on the streets there as uh the propalestinian demonstrators are being confronted by uh the uh forces of the occupying israeli regime. This is of course a common occurrence in the occupied west bank as Israeli Forces<\/a> uh carry out daytoday raids, attacks on palestinians just uh earlier today to","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia804603.us.archive.org\/23\/items\/PRESSTV_20231013_133200_Face_to_Face__Interview_with_Ziyad_al_Nakhalah\/PRESSTV_20231013_133200_Face_to_Face__Interview_with_Ziyad_al_Nakhalah.thumbs\/PRESSTV_20231013_133200_Face_to_Face__Interview_with_Ziyad_al_Nakhalah_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240703T12:35:10+00:00"}