Team russia competed in the olympics well but without the track and field athletes you see for some reason or paralympic athletes have to deal with very harsh requirements and thats all i can parrot dance and other sports when the russians were banned or stripped of their medals those that the it goes without saying that it is simply inhumane these people have already suffered enough because of their life circumstances and now they have to face even more trials with the sanctions that it is but that it was. At the post it is just inhumane clearly people who do such things have no god in their hearts i have no explanation for this but my guess is that they are threatened by russian athletes especially in track and field and in Winter Sports as well the russian paralympic athletes are in a higher category they have more experience and they deliver better results than Paralympic Teams from other countries. In so there is probably pressure on the International Paralympic can. Because the russians simply win too many medals more than in the regular olympic not in one basket maybe thats the reason it wasnt a yes you know ive heard comments from foreign paralympic care to view this but in a piece of any on the old south they dont even understand the current guidelines because of course have to be disabilities who are on some kind of pretty much including the ones that they used to treat their condition lets put it this way in the mckinney cine would you save there are clear criteria for what is considered to fit almost in advancing a drugstore you realize whats allowed and who is allowed to take thousands of what was used there any kind of clarity or great pick you up with no there is no clarity there has never been any clarity on the issue and there will be no clarity but that was the space a you know for everybody who watches our program wants to they can find the list of performance enhancing drugs online with a war and it will drive them crazy at national but theyre courting to the slowest is that every living person should be disqualified forever they sue nothing is a lot all your regular medical drugs are on the list from nasal draw they will get you several months of disqualification kidneys to die radix to a risk medications etc the fact that its a huge list that has over twenty thousand drugs on it as it is that salute lee impossible to figure it out no athlete knows it by heart in spite of course there are team doctors who take care of it and try to make sure that there are no violations. At the sit in about the situation is getting worse every year. Because if youre familiar with the issue to be sure you know that pharmaceutical drugs may have the same active ingredient they should be just thirty million different brand names. You know all these drugs being added to the list. Of most insidious assumes that basically people can take anything right. Yes it is impossible to figure it out so benign as lists are stuck you knew that because theyre not allowed to take any medications actual performance enhancers secret stimulants and out of all of steroids make up just a tiny fraction of this list that there are only a few items that nobody ever uses anymore and that it doesnt need them when you when you put their plate then youre all these doping scandals are actually around regular pharmaceutical drugs and i mean the such as for example. Something we are keeping out of. But i know. Im not really an athlete its you know what i like jogging in the winter as well and you might i dont understand how a person can work out without taking something to boost their immune system rather supplements but you are a very experienced test for major achievement and such and if you think it is possible to train really hard for the olympics weve been taking any pharmaceutical drugs you take you from what im fifty three of. The thing is no normal person including me can live without medications but there are some pharmaceutical drugs that i have to be on constantly for various Health Issues its the same for other people and you can you do that and in professional sports it is impossible to survive without medication because athletes work extremely hard often overdo it if they get injured they also get sick with the flu and common code. You must have been just like everybody else is just in the. Quite obviously it is impossible not to take anything else in addition he was not there are certain examples for the time when the thoughts are not competing that even thats in the if a person assess it at home or somewhere else you say no i think when there is no competition going on that means they have to write down everything they are taking at the moment so its all still to treat a certain sickness or injury or Something Else will. But during competitions it is best of the effort doesnt take anything at all should you say lets see any painkillers any had a drugs even a coffee can get them in trouble that will get as. Like for example we had a situation when track and field outlets were disqualified after drinking a single cup the stronger tellem coffee that because because of their another train szell enough catherine is not allowed it is on the list as well so the situation is critical and it is getting on healthy and something needs to be done about it no doubt sexually the most difficult thing to figure out what should be done at the problem faces all countries at any of the states much as youve shared your opinion in the russian media. Before the International OlympicCommittee Ruling was a public debate in our country about the status russian their three kids should take what i know about if they were not allowed to compete on to the russian flag and you believe that as additional was to bite you in the end they did what you recommended actually and you say no matter what because he asked leave to go to the early my ex. Story. Many disagreed with you more such as dont know why do you think they held a different tell you what you know truth like our athletes have pressed from all sides not just internationally but also at home. They dont always get support here why you Community Dog of a prodigious rides. Also thank you post it well yes after i voiced my opinion that many people expressed their support by specially those who know this issue very well. But there were others whose reaction was extremely negative evil willis called me horrible me and i dont understand why i deserve this i was just trying to explain the situation using my own experience i have been there i competed on this. Flag that i listen to my country and i didnt get to go to the one nine hundred eighty four olympics so i know how it feels well and i understand the situation very well mr chan sorry to interrupt because if thats not all over viewers who are trashing t. V. Right so lets watch a clip from that of progress where you voice your opinion before the International OlympicCommittee Ruling committee at that. It is easy to be a patriot someone elses expense sitting on the couch and yelling about the flag we have one big problem in our country we value symbols too much but yes they are important here and i am someone whos been there the state flag was raised the anthem was played in my honor and i had goose bumps but in two years nothing has been done to make sure that the slack can be raised that the olympics so it is complicated thats true were not thinking about the people but we should in our country we dont think about the people and then this particular case the athletes right now on this program we are failing them all together and i can only imagine how theyre watching us right now thinking am i a traitor whats going to happen to me now do you understand and i dont think that they are traitors to traders or those who did nothing in the past two years to make sure the team russia goes to the olympics with its flag and sent them you know id like to thank you for that statement and its very encouraging for our athletes and fans to hear the using words norm i think this is more than your point of view as an athlete i think it is also your position as a citizen of russia about what you spoke about before as the choice between the flag and the individual action a tragic choice that is all too familiar to the russian people but this time the choice was made in favor of hour after night sort of negus actually highest level of the russian authorities at decision was taken to support our athletes wish to come indeed under a neutral slackly of when do you consider to be in a sense in mind a victory for a country with a maybe in terms of overcoming itself and its past the next day i was in fact extremely happy to hear the president say that the government would not be announcing any sort of barriers and what not be impeding the participation of the athletes and that the state would support them as much as possible and that no one would be saying that these athletes are sponsors an ill will lot as they trained at the expense of other. Rely on other support to go to the olympics when you hear first and foremost they will represent not only themselves and i will be making a strong case for that and there are a lot of people who should also be given credit is that if i received a great many comments in social media regarding the money that should have been given to doctors and teachers and all these athletes and heres what i want to say what is it really the case that a coach is not a different kind of she turns even the already and say yes godless a folk you patient will of course always know our own ass knew exactly so many people work with every athlete in this situation doesnt mean that now we should throw them all in the trash the effort is just a front because in any case this is not how you treat your team members so was glad to know that were going to the olympics after all and that our athletes will receive the necessary support and you know why one reason is that some people say they want to put us down and this is why we should not be going there as a matter of principle not that i agree that we should be acting out of principle but in a different the opposite way thats the so they want to humiliate us so that we wont go and i as in that with a true fighting spirit you think we must go in spite of it out of principle paints a new one thousand just to annoy them. Yell and theyve given it to me i mean you still brings me a question i wanted to ask you about that i see that going to one way or another russia will have to work with the World Antidoping Agency out of them so the russians leadership including the president says that we intend to go to gainsay hoping that the public we acknowledge we have some issues even though its not always entirely clear when we should be shooting we have indeed to acknowledge that but with this is something the government could be more transparent about i didnt i didnt its kind of the stumbling blocks right you know whether russia except defining. Joking edge in some reports and of their league ation that russia had a state sponsored doping assisted architect we should there see through the russian situation weve been told the potential ramifications for russia swards if then the countries refutation then did. Still standing by what stance should we take share of what i see is that a visual. Coverdell somebody buys you. From a National Youth our position is clear there has never been and there can never be any state sponsored doping system and russia as for the specific cases of b. D. S. They are no different from regular criminal activities like corruption that you encounter in every other area of human life and there have always been people who break the law and we have to oppose them rush acknowledges this and we have done a lot over the last two years but unlike the i. O. C. And others the walling wont get done and not a single official has lost his office seen it true but if you look at the attitudes towards doping among the athletes themselves that they have changed dramatically and a lot has been done us by the way this is something that the has of other National Teams ought to do this well because they themselves have had a huge number of doping scandals and antidoping rule violations but ill say it again there has never been and never will be any state sponsored doping system in russia and our government is right in denying the statues ation this is exactly why we have to go to the olympics because we have been falsely accused you follow a paralympic athletes remain banned from the early weeks this year and next year but i just because russia refuses to accept the findings of the report do you think that it would be unfair to them if this thing is as of now and ill speak about the Paralympic Team in a moment refused to accept the findings of the report and the part that pertains to High Performance sports and becoming a limpid games but if we look at the i. O. C. Report and all of the accusations and demands within it and we have to stick with it they would say that it says that once russia meets all the requirements of its our athletes will be able to stand on that the russian flag at the closing ceremony and we will be able to completely restore status and iraq to be its yes thats the International Olympic committee yes they i. O. C. Its different when it comes to paralympic. So to conclude my point about the i. See we have to win back our right to bear the flag since the government has been unable to do anything over the last two years it is up to the athletes rushy and once we restore our rights we will be able to participate in the twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics under our own flag starting from the Opening Ceremony but now as for the paralympic athletes but i think this is another challenge to overcome to be frank i have a problem with the way our government has been dealing with the issue of the maybe some of the officials in the in the president are not receiving complete and honest reports on the matter the truth is theres a lot we can do by invoking the lympics charter and all other sports related documents in order to resolve the problem through legal means but two years have passed and nothing has been done nothing is being done still there still is a thirst so many ways to go forward and restore the status quo we can go so far as to sue all those organizations but only us for the paralympic athletes we must fight for their rights in fact it was two years ago that we should have started doing something with putting aside the problems facing the current Paralympic Team that i hope they wont be too angry with me now for good as i was then that we had to stand our ground but nothing was done to let our athletes were forgotten and dismissed and everybody expected the problem to magically vanish the show and now were back at the start with no guarantee that our efforts will be able to compete as we need to have the highest authority in our country to stand up for a fellow athletes to pick a person was nice. Well we have to take a very short break now but well be back in just a few moments statement. To. Join me every thursday on the alex im unsure and ill be speaking to us of the world of Politics School business im show business ill see you the. If the if. From. The from from. Welcome back to worlds apart but that channel russias triple jump Gold Medalist at the ninety ninety five world indoor championships open no doubt the. National teams only i also have to put some effort into cleaning up the sport so to speak because its no secret that some National Teams have a fairly large number of athletes with chronic conditions sent to describe each scheme is a believer and while preparing for the scene to view i looked at some days certainly with the cant according to the university of Professor John dickinson seventy percent of british swimmers and sixty percent of skiers of have asked by have it because if we take britain as a whole only twelve per cent of the population have asthma so its like either asthma patients have an amazing aptitude for olympic sports or olympic sports course that which i think we can agree isnt great but which to sink is more likely theres just cheating in lies of course still officially get the green light to use the banned substances that are on the list because its just a sham and its unfair to those people who are not allowed to take the. Sat its just so we all understand even you both who dont do star sports of swimming and skiing a little doing sports you cant cause as rents no of course not tons of people in other National Teams including the russian team dont have as much they are doing just fine they win medals they ski and shoot and theres nothing wrong with their health by the way they were cases one cold there did lead to several of our athletes experiencing asthma like symptoms in National Call i did to fix that back then it was back in the soviet days or rather the transitional period from the u. S. S. R. To russia to our skiing and biathlon officials try to. Apply to the International Federation for therapeutic use exemptions that athletes from norway and finland have for example thats because if someone uses drugs that open up their ways on the lungs why cant other teams do it to a brats and is not a i mean if they can use this drug so why cant we do it what do you know what the answer was if they have a condition they shouldnt do sports its a sport heres what id like to know why didnt they refuse new region and finish athletes so they can continue to do sport and the rest should just quit or join the Paralympic Movement simply astonishing im not even talking about american gymnast and swimmers we know all about that. Because i was just going to ask you about another condition thats why its trad among western massachusetts of advice and tension deficit hyperactivity disorder or a dea agent i started to the United States and from my own experience i know that its easy to do get diagnosed with it before exams many students just fake the symptoms and go to his drug addicted significantly improves your concentration and productivity but its possible as nobody of them should add its all legal because the diagnostic of true shes very different seemed to be so what can you do about i