You several months of disqualification to die radix to a risk medications etc the fact that its a huge list that has over twenty thousand drugs on it it is that salute lee impossible to figure it out no athlete knows it by heart in spite of course there are team doctors who take care of it and try to make sure that there are no violations. At the city now that the situation is getting worse every year. Because if youre familiar with the issue you know that pharmaceutical drugs may have the same active ingredient that should be just thirty million different brand names. You know all these drugs keep being added to the list. Of most insidious systems that basically people can take anything right yes it is impossible to figure it out so benign and athletes are stuck unions they just are not allowed to take any medications actual performance enhancers stimulants and anabolic steroids make a. Just a tiny fraction of this list that there are only a few items that nobody ever uses anymore and that it doesnt need them when they relate then yes to all these doping scandals are actually around regular pharmaceutical drugs and i mean the such as for example cheney. Said we are keeping out of. The well but i know what im not really an athlete so yeah i would do but i jogging in the winter as well and you might i dont understand how a person can work out without taking something to boost their immune system i mean did a mans rather supplements but you are a very experienced test lead for major achievements such of the three you think it is possible to train really hard for the early weeks weve got be taking any pharmaceutical drugs. From a guy like each q forms of teach the three of the deal of. The thing is no normal person including me can live without medications but there are some pharmaceutical drugs that i have to be on constantly for various Health Issues its the same for other people i spend in professional sports it is impossible to survive without medication because i asked lets work extremely hard often overdo it if i get injured they also get sick with the flu and common code. In must have been just like everybody else its just in the so quite obviously it is impossible not to take anything. But there are certain examples for the time when the thoughts are not competing that even thats in the middle because if a person is tested at home or somewhere else you said you know i think when there is no competition going on that means they have to write down everything they are taking at the money so if theyre still to treat a certain sickness or injury or something else. During competitions it is best of the effort doesnt take anything at all should you see sitting in the lights because any painkillers any had a drugs even a coffee can get them in trouble but no good as new. Like for example we had a situation when track and field athletes were disqualified after drinking a single cup of strong and tell him coffee that because because of their another train szell enough catherine is not allowed it is on the list as well so the situation is critical and it is getting on healthy and something needs to be done about it no doubt sexually the most difficult thing to figure out what should be done at the problem faces all countries or any of the facts in a chess youve shared your opinion in the Russian Media door and before the International OlympicCommittee Ruling was a public debate in our country about the status russian thats leads should take what i know about if they were not allowed to compete on to the russian flag that was additional was to buy in the end they did what do you recommended actually and you say no matter what is the athletes have to go to the early mosques and to compete with them storing. Many disagreed with you more such as dont know why do you think they held a different tell you what you know tools like our athletes have pressed from all sides not just internationally but also at home. They dont always get support here why you can even if you dug out of a predictor its. Also thank you post it well yes after i voiced my opinion that many people expressed their support by specially those who know this issue very well like me. But there were others whose reaction was extremely negative evil willis told me horrible me and i dont understand why i deserve this i was just trying to explain the situation using my own experience i have been there i competed under the state flag that i listen to my country and i didnt get to go to the one nine hundred eighty four olympics so i know how it feels and i understand the situation very well mr chen saw it through and through because its so thats not all over you were his words russian t. V. Guide so lets watch a clip from ground where you voice your opinion before the International OlympicCommittee Ruling committee at that. It is easy to be a patriot someone elses expense sitting on the couch and yelling about the flag we have one big problem in our country we value symbols too much yes they are important and i am someone whos been there the state flag was raised the anthem was played in my honor and i had goose bumps but in two years nothing has been done to make sure that the slack can be raised that the olympics so it is complicated thats true were not thinking about the people but we should in our country we dont think about the people and then this particular case the athletes right now on this program we are failing them all together i can only imagine how theyre watching us right now thinking am i a traitor whats going to happen to me now do you understand and i dont think that they are traitors to traders or those who did nothing in the past two years to make through the team russia goes to the olympics with its flag and it sent them you know id like to thank you for that statement and its very encouraging for our athletes and fans to hear the using words norm i think this is more than your point of view as an athlete i think it is also your position as a citizen of russia but much of what you spoke about before was the choice between the flag and the individual action a tragic choice that is all too familiar to the russian people but this time the choice was made in favor of hour after night sort of negus actually highest level of the russian authorities decision was taken to support our athletes wish to come in the under a neutral just laxative when do you consider to be in a sense in mind a victory for a country with a not maybe in terms of overcoming itself and its past the next day i was in fact extremely happy to hear the president say that the government would not be announcing any sort of barriers and what not be impeding the participation of the athletes and that the state would support them as much as possible and that no one will be saying that these athletes are sponsors and all will live as they trained at the expense of other. Rely on other support to go to the olympics when you first and foremost they will represent not only themselves and i will be making a strong case for that and there are a lot of people who should also be given credit is that if i received a great many comments in social media regarding the money that should have been given to doctors and teachers and all these athletes and heres what i want to say what is it really the case that a coach is not a different kind of she turns even the already and say yes godless a folk you patient will of course always know our own absolutes exactly so many people work with every athlete in this situation doesnt mean that now we should throw them all in the trash the effort is just a front because in any case this is not how you treat your team members so was glad to know that were going to the olympics after all and that our athletes will receive the necessary support and you know why one reason is that some people say they want to put us down and this is why we should not be going there as a matter of principle not that i agree that we should be acting out of principle but in a different the opposite way. To say they want to humiliate us so that we wont go to an eye as an outlet with a true fighting spirit you think we must go in spite of it out of principle paints a new one thousand just to annoy them. Yell and theyve given it to me i mean you still brings me a question i wanted to ask you about that i see that going to one way or another russia will have to work with the World Antidoping Agency one of them structures leadership including the president says we intend to fight against being keep the republic we acknowledge we have some issues even though its not always entirely clear when we should be should we have indeed to acknowledge that but with this is something the government could be more transparent about i didnt i didnt its going of the stumbling blocks right you know whether russia except the finding. Reports and their league ation that russia had a state sponsored doping assisted octet cup we should pursue through the russian situation weve been told the potential ramifications for russia swards if done to countries refutations and internet. Still standing what stands should we take care of what i see is that a visual. Coverdell somebody buys you a strongly National Youth our position is clear there has never been and there can never be any state sponsored doping system and russia as for the specific cases of b. D. S. They are no different from regular criminal activities like corruption that you encounter in every other area of human life and there have always been people who break the law and we have to post on rush acknowledges this and we have done a lot over the last two years but unlike the i. O. C. And others the walling wont get done and not a single if you show has lost his office seen it true but if you look at the attitudes towards doping among the athletes themselves that they have changed dramatically and a lot has been done us by the way this is something that the has of other National Teams ought to do this well because they themselves have had a huge number of doping scandals and antidoping rule violations but ill say it again there has never been and never will be any state sponsored doping system in russia and our government is right in denying the statues ation this is exactly why we have to go to the olympics because we have been falsely accused you follow a paralympic athletes remain banned from the early weeks this year and next year but i just because russia refuses to accept the findings of the report do you think that would be unfair to them deal of the thing is as of now and ill speak about the Paralympic Team in a moment refused to accept the findings of the report and the part that pertains to High Performance courts becoming a limpid games but if we look at the i. O. C. Report and all of the accusations and demands within it and we have to stick with it that i would say that it says that once russia meets all the requirements of its our athletes will be able to stand on that the russian flag at the closing ceremony and we will be able to completely restore status and iraq should be its yes but thats the International Olympic committee yes they i. O. C. Its different when it comes to paralympic. So to conclude my point about the i. See we have to win back over right to bear the flag since the government has been unable to do anything over the last two years it is up to the athletes are she and once we restore our rights we will be able to participate in the twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics under our own flag starting from the Opening Ceremony but now as for the paralympic athletes but i think this is another challenge to overcome to be frank i have a problem with the way our government has been dealing with the issues but of the maybe some of the officials in ever in the president are not receiving complete and honest reports on the matter the truth is theres a lot we can do by invoking philippic charter and all other sports related documents in order to resolve the problem for legal means but two years have passed and nothing has been done nothing is being done still that still is a thirst so many ways to go forward and restore the status quo we can go so far as to sue all those organizations but i didnt ask for the paralympic athletes we must fight for their rights the bullet that in fact it was two years ago that we should have started doing something with putting aside the problems facing the current Paralympic Team that i hope they wont be too angry with me now because i was then that we had to stand our ground but nothing was done to let our athletes were forgotten and dismissed and everybody expected the problem to magically vanish the show and now were back at the start with no guarantee that are athletes will be able to compete as we need to have the highest authority in our country to stand up for a fellow athletes to pick a person wasnt. Well we have to take a very short break now but well be back in just a few moments stay tuned. Like the many flips over the years so i know the guy even so i got. The ball isnt only about what happens on the pitch but a final school. Its about the passion from the fans its the age of the superman to just kill the narrowness and spending to do the twenty million one fly a. Book its an experience like nothing else not to because i want to share what i think of what i know about the beautiful guy a great so one more chance with. The case its going to. Cut off point six six. Six six six. Welcome back to worlds apart but that channel russias triple jump Gold Medalist at the ninety ninety five world indoor championships open no doubt on. All of the National Teams only i also have to put some effort into cleaning up the sport so to speak because its no secret that some National Teams have a fairly large number of athletes with chronic conditions sent to describe each game is a believer and while preparing for the scene to view i looked at some days hurriedly with the cant according to the university of kent Professor John dickinson seventy percent of british swimmers and sixty percent of skiers of have asked but i knew that because if we take britain as a whole only twelve per cent of the population have asthma. Of either asthma patients have an amazing aptitude for olympic sports or olympic sports course which i think we can agree isnt great but which do you think is more likely is just sitting on lies of course still officially get the green light to use the banned substances that are on the list because its just a sham and its unfair to those people who are not allowed to take them. Just so we all understand even you both who dont do star sports of swimming and skiing a little doing sports you cant cause as rants no of course not tons of people in other National Teams including the russian team dont have as much they are doing just fine they win medals they ski and shoot and theres nothing wrong with their health by the way they were cases one cold there did lead to several of our athletes experiencing asthma like symptoms in National Call i did six that usual but back then it was back in the soviet days or rather the transitional period from the u. S. S. R. To russia or skiing and biathlon officials trying. To apply to the International Federation for therapeutic use exemptions that athletes from norway and finland have for example thats because if someone uses drugs that open up their ways in the lungs why cant other teams do it to brets its and is not a i mean if they can use this drug so why cant we do it what do you know what the answer was if they have a condition they shouldnt do sports its a sport heres what id like to know why didnt they refuse new region and finish athletes so they can continue to do sport and the rest should just quit or join the Paralympic Movement simply astonishing im not even talking about american gymnast and swimmers we know all about that. Because i was just going to ask you about another condition thats why its trad among western massachusetts of at this in a tension deficit hyperactivity disorder or a dea agent i started in the United States and from my own experience i know that its easy to do you get diagnosed with it before exams many students just fake the symptoms and it is a drug addicted significantly improves your concentration and your experience here at the spa so theres nobody up im sure that its all legal because the diagnostic of true shes very different seemed to be so what can you do about it because the vision is because you can just contact the u. S. Department of health and tell them theyre not being very responsible about how they diagnose these conditions little got most excuse there anything you can do to experience them or not if you need to the problem we know what theres a paycheck well thats another interesting is surely a lot more so with that we could probably apply for a therapeutic use exemption for those assets who have attention deficit hyperactivity disorder you know well we all sort of have at certain times good if anyone from other National Teams including russia actually tries to do that theyll be shut down immediately get out in the wooded thats why no one asks the all no they wont be allowed in yet as i cant understand why its allowed there if a person suffers from such a serious condition. And they consider it a serious one of they prescribe such strong drugs but i remember the american gymnast you know yes im on biles yes im on dial she said i have a serious condition so i have to take it well if its so serious which the paralympics or its there are no restrictions there theyre a pearl in peons with prophetic body parts to run and jump and so one of her till i was just going to say its marcus ram a german athlete who like you competes in the long jump events discovered but it was denied permission to participate in the real lympics courts and ruled that hes perceived as shit that regarded him with an advantage over there are other athletes but thats true even though he jumps to the stone age meters and forty centimeters look wow thats impressive that which is comparable to the top results in the world yes absolutely i want to clear up yes sure one thing in your opinion some National Teams are going to get preferential treatment or individuals should take it the ins you do i think a court the bipod does want to make up a lot of the bush and the yes i think so