Performance enhancing drugs still you live whats allowed and who is allowed to take steroids always use their any kind of clarity or got the chill up but should know there is no clarity there has never been any clarity on the issue and there will be no clarity but that means the space a you know for everybody who watches our program but also the most and they can find the list of performance enhancing drugs online with that war and it will drive them crazy more than a national but theyre courting to the list is that every living person should be disqualified forever they sue nothing is a lot. All your regular medical drugs are on the list from nasal draw they will get you several months of disqualification to die radix to a risk medications etc the fact that its a huge list that has over twenty thousand drugs on it it is that salute leigh impossible to figure it out no athlete knows it. By heart in spite of course there are team doctors who take care of it and try to make sure that there are no violations. At the sit in about the situation is getting worse every year. Because if youre familiar with the issue to be sure you know that pharmaceutical drugs may have the same active ingredient that she was just thirty million different brand names. You know all these drugs being added to the list. Of the most insidious assumes that basically people can take anything right yes it is impossible to figure it out so benign and athletes are stuck there are not allowed to take any medications actual performance enhancers stimulants and anabolic steroids make up just a tiny fraction of the list that there are only a few items that nobody ever uses anymore and that it doesnt need them when they relate then use all these doping scandals are actually around regular pharmaceutical drugs and i mean the such as for example cheney. Certainly are keeping out of doing it but also that i know what im not really an athlete so yeah but i like jogging in the winter as well and you might i dont understand how a person can work out without taking something to boost their immune system i mean the demands are rather supplements but you are a very experienced terrorists lead with a major achievement such in the three you think it is possible to train really hard for the olympics weve got be taking any pharmaceutical drugs. From a guy like each gift items of teach three of the deal of. The thing is no normal person including me can live without medications but there are some pharmaceutical drugs that i have to be on constantly for various Health Issues its the same for other people i spend in professional sports it is impossible to survive without medications because athletes work extremely hard often overdo it if they get injured they also get sick with the flu the common code. Then in one thousand and seven just like everybody else they ceased and so quite obviously it is impossible not to take anything. But there are certain examples where the time when the thoughts are noncompeting that even thats in the middle because if a person is tested at home or somewhere else when there is no competition going on that means they have to write down everything they are taking at the money so its all still to treat a certain sickness or injury or something else. But during competitions it is best of the effort doesnt take anything at all should you see sitting in the lights because any painkillers any had a drugs or even a coffee can get them in trouble and will get as. Like for example we had a situation when track and field outlets were disqualified after drinking a single cup of strong tellem coffee that because because of there are no train szell enough catherine is not allowed it is on the list as well so the situation is critical when it is getting on healthy and something needs to be done about it thats actually the most difficult thing to figure out what should be done at the problem faces all countries at any of the thoughts youve shared your opinion in the russian media. Before the International OlympicCommittee Ruling was a public debate in our country about the status russian that swedes should take what i know about if they were not allowed to compete on to the russian flag can you believe that as additional was to bite you in the end they did what you recommended actually and you sat there no matter what because he asked leave to go to the early mosques and to compete with them storing. A man who disagreed with you more such as dont know why do you think they held a different tell you what you know truth like our athletes have pressed from all sides not just internationally but also at home. They dont always get support here why. Community dug out of a prodigious writes. Well yes after i voiced my opinion that many people expressed their support by specially those who know the sister of area well like me. But there were others whose reaction was extremely negative they told me horrible me and i dont understand why i deserve this i was just trying to explain the situation using my own experience i had been there i competed under the state flag that i listen to my country and i didnt get to go to the one nine hundred eighty four olympics so i know how it feels and i understand the situation very well mr chancellor it through and through because its so thats not all over you words words russian t. V. Guide so lets watch a clip from ground where you voice your opinion before the International OlympicCommittee Ruling committee at that. It is easy to be patriots someone elses expense sitting on the couch and yelling about the flag we have one big problem in our country we value symbols too much yes they are important here and i am someone whos been there the state flag was raised the anthem was played in my honor and i had goose bumps but in two years nothing has been done to make sure that the slack can be raised that the olympics so it is complicated thats true were not thinking about the people but we should in our country we dont think about the people and then this particular case the athletes right now on this program we are failing them all together and i can only imagine how theyre watching us right now thinking oh my a traitor was going to happen to me now do you understand and i dont think that they are traitors for traders or those who did nothing in the past two years to make through the team russia goes to the olympics with its flag and it sent them you know id like to thank you for that statement and its very encouraging for our athletes and fans to hear the using words norm i think this is more than your point of view as an athlete i think it is also your position as a citizen of russia about what you spoke about before was the choice between the flag and the individual action a tragic choice that is all too familiar to the russian people but this time to the choice was made in favor of hour after night sort of negus actually highest level of the russian authorities at decision was taken to support our athletes wish to come indeed under a nutritious laxative when do you consider to be in a sense in mind a victory for our country with the not maybe in terms of overcoming itself and its past the next day i was in fact extremely happy to hear the president say that the government would not be announcing any sort of barriers and what not be impeding the participation of the athletes and that the state would support them as much as possible and that no one would be saying that these athletes are sponsors and all will lot as they trained at the expense of other. Rely on other support to go to the olympics when you first and foremost they will represent not only themselves and i will be making a strong case for that and there are a lot of people who should also be given credit is that if i received a great many comments in social media regarding the money that should have been given to doctors and teachers and all these athletes and heres what i want to say what is it really the case that a coach is not a different kind of she turns even the already and say yes godless a folk you patient will of course always know our own ass knew exactly so many people work with every athlete in this situation doesnt mean that now we should throw them all in the trash the effort is just a front because in any case this is not how you treat your team members so was glad to know that were going to the olympics after all and that our athletes will receive the necessary support and you know why one reason is that some people say they want to put us down and this is why we should not be going there as a matter of principle not that i agree that we should be acting out of principle but in a different the opposite way thats to say they want to humiliate us so that we wont go and i as in that with a true fighting spirit you think we must go in spite of it out of principle paints a new one thousand just to annoy them. Yell and theyve given it to me i mean you still brings me a question i wanted to ask you about that i see that going on one way or another russia will have to work with the World Antidoping Agency out of them so the russians leadership including the president says its that we intend to buy it again so being keep the republic we acknowledge we have some issues even though its not always entirely clear when we should be shooting we have indeed to acknowledge that but with this is something the government could be more transparent about i didnt i didnt is going of the stumbling blocks right you know whether russia except defining. Joking edge in some reports and specifically of their league ation that russia had a state sponsored doping assisted octet cut we should pursue through the russian situation weve been told the potential ramifications for russia swards if then the countries refutation then did. Still standing whats towns should we take care of that i see is that a visual. Coverdell somebody buys you. From me our position is clear there has never been and there can never be any state sponsored doping system and russia as for the specific cases of b. D. S. They are no different from regular criminal activities like corruption that you encounter in every other area of human life and there have always been people who break the law and we have to post on rush acknowledges this and we have done a lot over the last two years but unlike the i. O. C. And others. Not a single if you show has lost his office seen it true but if you look at the attitudes towards doping among the athletes themselves that they have changed dramatically and a lot has been done us by the way this is something that the has of other National Teams ought to do this well because they themselves have had a huge number of doping scandals and antidoping rule violations but ill say it again there has never been and never will be any state sponsored doping system in russia and our government is right in denying the statues ation this is exactly why we have to go to the olympics because we have been falsely accused if our paralympic athletes remain banned from the early weeks this year and next year but i just because russia refuses to accept the findings of the report do you think that it would be unfair to them if the thing is as of now and ill speak about the Paralympic Team in a moment refused to accept the findings of the report and the part that pertains to High Performance sports becoming a limpid games but if we look at the i. O. C. Report and all of the accusations and demands within it and we have to stick with it they would say that it says that once russia meets all the requirements of its our athletes will be able to stand on that the russian flag at the closing ceremony and we will be able to completely restore status and iraq to be its yes but thats the International Olympic committee yes they i. O. C. Its different when it comes to paralympic so to conclude my point about the i. See we have to win back our right to bear the flag since the government has been unable to do anything over the last two years it is up to the athletes actually and once we restore our rights we will be able to participate in the twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics under our own flag starting from the Opening Ceremony but now we have to but as for the paralympic athletes but i think this is another challenge to overcome to be frank i have a problem with the way our government has been dealing with the issue of the maybe some of the officials in ever in the president are not receiving complete and honest reports on the matter the truth is theres a lot we can do by invoking the lympics charter and all other sports related documents in order to resolve the problem through legal means but two years have passed and nothing has been done nothing is being done still there are so many ways to go forward and restore the status quo we can go so far as to sue all those organizations but i didnt ask for the paralympic athletes we must fight for their rights the bullet that in fact it was two years ago that we should have started doing something with putting aside the problems facing the current Paralympic Team that i hope they wont be too angry with me now it was good as it was then that we had to stand our ground but nothing was done to let our athletes were forgotten and dismissed and everybody expected the problem to magically vanish the show and now were back at the start with no guarantee that our efforts will be able to compete as we need to have the highest authority in our country to stand up for a fellow athletes to pick a pleasant was nice i guess well we have to take a very short break now but well be back in just a few moments stay tuned. 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All of the National Teams only i also have to put some effort into cleaning up the sport so to speak because its no secret that some National Teams have a fairly large number of athletes with chronic conditions sent to describe each game is a believer and while preparing for the scene of you i looked at some days certainly with the cant according to the university of kent Professor John dickinson seventy two a santa of british swimmers and sixty percent of skiers of have asked but i knew that because if we take britain as a whole only twelve per cent of the population have asthma so its like the either asthma patients have an amazing aptitude for olympic sports or olympic sports course which i think we can agree isnt great but which do you think is more likely theres just cheating in lies of course still officially get the green light to use the banned substances that are on the list because its just a sham and its unfair to those people who are not allowed to take them. Just so we all understand even you both who dont do star sports of swimming and skiing a little doing sports you cant cause as rants no of course not tons of people in other National Teams including the russian team dont have as much they are doing just fine they win medals they ski and shoot and theres nothing wrong with their health by the way they were cases when cold air did lead to several of our athletes experiencing asthma like symptoms in National Call i did to fix that back then it was back in the soviet days or rather the transitional period from the u. S. S. R. To russia to our skiing and biathlon officials to try. To apply to the International Federation for therapeutic use exemptions that athletes from norway and finland hat for example thats because if someone uses drugs that open up their ways on the lungs why cant other teams do it to a brackets and its not a i mean if they can use this drug so why cant we do it what do you know what the answer was if they have a condition they shouldnt do sports its a sport heres what id like to know why didnt they refuse new region and finish athletes with that so they can continue to do sport and the rest should just quit or join the Paralympic Movement simply astonishing im not even talking about american gymnast and swimmers we know all about that. Because i was just going to ask you about another condition thats why its trad among western massachusetts of at this in a tension deficit hyperactivity disorder or a dea agent i started to the United States and from my own experience i know that its easy to do you get diagnosed with it its here before exams many students just fake the symptoms and it is drug addicted significantly improves your concentration and your experience here at the spa so theres nobody up im sure that its all legal because the diagnostic of true shes very different seemed to be so what can you do about it because the vision is because if you can just contact the u. S. Department of health and tell them theyre not being very responsible about how they diagnose these conditions little gutless disk is there anything you can do to experience them or not if you need to the problem in the woods is a pay check well thats another interesting is surely a lot more so with that we could probably apply for therapeutic use exemption for those assets who have attention deficit hyperactivity disorder you know well we all sort of have at certain times good if anyone from other National Teams including russia actually tries to do that theyll be shut down immediately in the wooded thats why no one asks the all no they wont be allowed in yet as i cant understand why its allowed there if a person suffers from such a serious condition. They considered a serious one of