Not say Artificial Intelligence is no longer a product of Science Fiction it already exists and its developing past. Some of the worlds greatest minds warning about the dangers of a what do we have to fear as the age of intelligent computer. Well we ask a leading scientist in the field of Artificial Intelligence robotics and jenny are. With the world of Artificial Intelligence accelerating territory possibilities from the realm of magic to open up right before our eyes. How will the new Technology Lead to the next step. To what extent. Will the Artificial Intelligence revolution become the foundation of world. And Artificial Intelligence researcher welcome to the show great to have you with us now ben wrong curts whale from google is claiming Artificial Intelligence will enhance us as humans tesla c. E. O. Elon masks asked that people must merge with machines or theyll become irrelevant so if this is the next step in evolution for us we go from apes to humans and then we become androids. Well i think theres going to be a lot of possibilities open to us as advanced technology unfolds one of these possibilities will be for us simply to upload our minds into a digital or quantum computing substrate and just become transhuman minds leaving the human body behind altogether another opportunity will be to hybridize with machines i mean this so phone that we have in our pockets can go in our head and we can effectively become cyborgs and this is going to have of sorts of amazing consequences for our minds and bodies another possibility will be to remain in basically the same human form but do away with annoying features of our current life like like death and disease and snow the and Mental Illness and so forth theres going to be a spectrum of possibilities and its going to be much more exciting than human life has been heretofore so if humans will be able to have great their intelligence as you say what what were going to look like i mean i imagine plugging in its shape and being able to speak chinese elements that are. Being able to learn new languages by simply plugging a chip into your head having your. Minds in the grasp the full power of the internet of a calculator of an automatic fear improver these will be some of the consequences but it will go way beyond will be able to network our brains into each others brains and into the brains of ais which in essence will let us go beyond our current existence as individual humans and become part of a sort of. Group biological mind then do you really think that a human mind can handle that i mean that the Fastest Growing disorder in twenty First Century is mental visible these order all over the world and thats because theres like so much information do you really think we can handle i think were going to go bizerk and that happens. I think the young generation will be able to handle these changes especially well and some of us who are not so young anymore but with open minds ready to embrace these possibilities should have an easy time i do think there will be some significant adjustment problems for older people who dont want to give up the traditional way of living and and i hope all of these possibilities will be optional so that if people want to remain in their similar human bodies if they dont want to plug into the digital mind matrix if they want to get sick and die rather than availing themselves of the new possibilities i think people should should be allowed to go by the same token i think that people who want to expand their minds and bodies and grow in an unbounded way to embrace all sorts of new possibilities should also be allowed to do so so you said before that groundbreaking technological leap is coming in the next decade but our current tack like the processors appears to be reaching its limit i mean its no longer developing us fast as a day so where will this new breakthrough come from. I think the biggest breakthrough that lies ahead is the transition from narrow. To age artificial general intelligence todays. Are very good at solving highly particular problems like driving a car or playing certain acting the stock market once we create a general purpose that can confront new problems that it wasnt explicitly programmed or trained for and this general purpose is going to accomplish one after another task that only humans can do and the general purpose and i will been set itself the task of improving itself and the reprogramming itself and good the mathematician foresaw this in the one nine hundred sixty five when he said the first intelligent machine will be the last invention the human he needs to me. So during this half. A. G. I. Development like you college usat that at first things will get that right so how that are we talking about what kind of that i mean will that stalin in progress make humans and of robotics. Some people will always be afraid of progress but that doesnt seem to stop progress from happening when so phones first came out people complained a lot that they were you know they would destroy a normal social interaction people will always be staring at their phones and you know the realities more complex and people are always staring at their phones but theyre mostly messaging with each other and carrying out new forms of social interaction in the same way people will be afraid of these new technologies once theyre verbal they will embrace them and they will use them in their own way for their for their own purposes for you here always accompanies progress but human nature is to embrace progress and move forward anyway thats where were not living in caves anymore so youre saying that smart robots will eventually run World Governments are humans really going to be confortable with that i mean who is going to obey robots where are they gonna get legitimacy im not sure that most people are comfortable with their current government step further with them because they dont have much choice and i suspect. Ai robot governments can be much more rational and lots more compassionate than the current oligarchic human governments that we have i suspect people will be more happy with the new situation than they are with with the current one but the thing with computers despite all the advancement they can make mistakes they freeze any my computer freeze on me all the time. They mouth function they do something stupid where is a guarantee that a robot who decides things for humans will be flawless i mean if there rob a cop shoots me by mistake. I dont think were going to achieve flawless machines perfection is probably a pipe dream on the other hand and just as humans are not the fastest running or the high is jumping creatures on earth theres no reason to believe were necessarily the smartest things that can be created were not the upper limit of intelligence and were not the upper limit certainly of kindness compassion and ethics ais dont need to be perfect to exceed humans in an awful lot of relevant dimensions certainly theres going to be problems as Intelligent Machines are rolled and progress further and further and take on more and more roles in society theres always going to be some kind of problem i would bet the actual problems that happen are not going to be the ones we foresee know just like before computers in the internet was created known for sabat the computer viruses and the actual issues that we have now were just going to were going to move forward were going to take the good along with the bad and im personally an optimist and believe that the good is going to weigh the bad i believe it has generally through. Civilization you know for me the biggest problem in allah is. The economy i mean who are you going to hold accountable if something goes wrong with a robot i mean when human makes a mistake you can put him on trial what imprison anna execute him what he did with. Her you know hold him accountable for a mistake hes making. The legal system that we have now is predicated on the idea that humans are the only intelligent beings with moral accountability obviously this is going to have to change and the legal system will have to embrace. As legal persons which will come along with things like perhaps the right to vote for robots as well as the as they dont need to hold a robot. Accountable if it does something wrong i did a machine and a lot more. Machines will be able to program their own minds and if necessary the machines will be able to to fix the mind of a machine thats going to rot right now we cant go into the mind of a human social path and just to make them the dangerous so we have to lock them up or kill them these methods are our very crude with an ai we have source code access to their minds and we can adjust their hardware they can adjust their own hardware and because of this i think the incidence of problems is going to be far less since its really a very crude situation were in were running on these machines that we dont understand and we cant reprogram. So even a toaster these days can be connected to the internet of things and it immediately becomes hackable and is relying on rabbits with brains even more dangerous since you know they can also be. Security is going to be a serious problem is more and more things are connected to the internet and more and more things are controlled by Intelligent Machines ultimately it may be that radical transparency becomes the solution if everyone has the ability to watch Everything Else what the futurist david turner scrolled valence everyone watching everything if you have that situation then its much harder for people to get away with stealing things and wreaking havoc because someone will see them and i think were already seeing that trend the traditional notion of privacy is on the decline. And were going to take a short break right now when were back well continue talking to the band scientists Artificial Intelligence researcher talking about the advent of robotic intelligence and the possible dangers that may bring to humanity staging. In some American Cities the police have built. 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How about when ban gerth cell robotics and Artificial Intelligence pioneer talking about the impact of creating thinking computers on every day lives so bad big names in science such as Stephen Hawking ill in moscow apple cofounder still washing out sign an open letter warning against Artificial Intelligence used in the military but battle robots are already used in war so if Artificial Intelligence can get less powerful as you claim it can be well wars become immensely more destructive than they are now. It seems that over time in Human History wars. Over are decreased in sins and the percentage of the population killed in moores keeps going down and further more democratic nations quite rarely go to war with each other so i dont actually think were going to see an explosion of love more and more wars i think were going to see a more and more democratic and Peaceful World but i agree this is a risk and this is why i think its important that the most powerful ais are developed as free and open Source Software for the good of everyone in the world rather than developed as the exclusive province of some governments military or some Large Corporation now the only think we can model Artificial Intelligence on from what i understand is our own human brain but with all the flaws and issues and limitations is it a good model to follow i mean prison scientists are already saying Artificial Intelligence can quickly become biased racist sexist. There are many different approaches to the creation of advanced ai systems some people are trying to model the brain but not many thats not a common approach in the field even even the Neural Networks the other widely used for things like Image Processing are are very very loose models of parts of the human brain and my own work with the open cod artificial general Intelligence System isnt really based on the human brain its based more on mathematical principles of intelligence just as cars and airplanes and submarines and so forth are theyre not based all that closely on biological animals do things that are based on principles of of engineering and mathematics only loosely loosely inspired by biological systems so i think ais dont have to emulate the human brain and thats a good thing because they can be smarter than us and kinder than us and they can be more open minded and communicate in different ways than we can what an industry will be the driving factor behind robotics evolution military baseball and google poor and maybe robotics interest or killer i predict will be driven by the toy industry the toy industry which is centered largely here in south china and where im sitting right know is much better creating complex Consumer Electronics a low cost and large scale the and anyone else and furthermore choice can afford to be a little silly and learn as they go where military robots for example must have a very very high very high reliability so actually what were aiming to do with our robots and hence in robotics is to roll so robots it will be like young a. G. I. Children that learn. From the kids who are playing them and and grow up together with the children who own them and think this this can build an emotional and moral bond between humans and robots and give a gentle way for robots to grow up learn human common sense knowledge and learn human values so talking not toys there are people already more attached to sex dolls than real people so if sex robots become a real thing well this ruling remains i mean id be so much easier to fail loud when its programmed then you dont have to do anything about it you just love it because you know you push button. Romans has changed greatly throughout Human History i mean in term of the last century or two most marriages were were not based on rowlands and large parts of the world arranged marriage is still the norm so i think love and romance are going to change over and over again as the evolves and exactly what impact sex robots is hard for me to say i have to say its its not incredibly appealing to me personally because i value the sort of emotional bond i get with another human because i know my wife is a human and she knows im a human in the a certain bond you get from the common al the and sharing but thats me if some people would prefer sex aroma to another human that doesnt really bother me in particular im all for freedom and people having the right to use or not use each new technology as it comes about so tell me something can they charge five Artificial Intelligence the same weight fights cloning. I think religion has a lot of tower to the human mind to grow and to create social cohesion in groups but you know religion is true very adaptive over time and if you look in the bible or the koran we dont take literally a lot of things that are said there are no time in the Christian Church adapted itself to Birth Control and even abortion and reasonably well and i think religion will adapt itself to new technologies and the emerge i mean just as its been doing your company. Has found thats run by Artificial Intelligence from what i understand he makes predictions about Market Trends an investor cordingley its going pretty well right but if youre already earning money thanks to Artificial Intelligence why isnt everyone lining up for the tac i mean the more people have it the last of man its gonna bring you so are you maybe trying to keep it a secret or something. Financial prediction using is its definitely the wave of the future and i think within ten years. 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