For the violent overthrow of the government the cold the military to rise up a media the core of the cold on say lets say the b. B. C. Calling for a coup against the government in why i told and the Prime Minister in the ten downing street of course not yes there is violence on both sides but i would suggest that most of the violence comes from something that has never gone away and that is monopolies that control seventy percent of the capital and economic power and venezuela wanting to get rid of a government that is not a socialist government its a social democratic up one that is done some very interesting and quite sick significant things for poor people who were regarded in the playoffs as White South Africans used to regard the majority in that country. Youve been. Cooperative there we go because what one might say but it was the reason he may not speak about the situation venezuela like you just did is that is a policy of not speaking about venezuelan bellas day seems to be paying dividends hes favored to be the next Prime Minister of this country as well im not sure that the two actually together i think a lot of people were very pleased to hear germany speak up not only about venezuela but speak up about the arms trade not simply is the manifesto coals for an inquiry into britain support for saudi arabia and all the arms that britain gives it we know about it it should be an end to a commercial sales policy which was begun by a labor government then as healy set up the Procurement Office that began this this multibillion pound. Enterprise profitable enterprise of britain selling arms to some of the most unsavory unnamed countries in the world so they could use them against impoverished people that show day and completely and it would be good to see. To hear labor leaders say that but then he has these own problems within the party we should say very quickly because i would think most of his employees people who would be. More than happy to go ahead with this arms policy more than happy to endorse a socalled independent Nuclear Deterrent which Jeremy Coburn himself doesnt op so theres a conflict within the labor party we have to recognise that we dont listen to. The media especially around. Treacherous liberal media and i say treacherous because theres no attempt to report what is happening in venezuela or objectively or really to look at contemporary history in the truth of that and yes it will be good to hear a labor leader. Elected with such hope. Within his own party and as you suggest possibly the next Prime Minister speak up about the it will britain obviously with that independent you did attend will support presumably any american war on russia you in your latest piece talk about how the world may end and say that what the us congress have bust is should frighten all of us on the planet way. I dont know if the world will end i think there is such risk at the moment there is such provocation the us congress both houses. Unprecedented almost unanimous a handful of people who voted no have voted for. What they call sanctions against russia in fact these are sanctions against europe as well those sanctions especially against germany because what they are saying is that to the germans who are dependent on russian natural gas you can deal with russia were going to tell you in fact by the way you can have very expensive. Frakt gas which will send across the atlantic but really that is these sanctions is so sweeping the mccarthyite saying you really kongs almost come speak about them in the land of free speech the liberal media says this is a great reaction in the face of trump the manchurian get a date he wanted to get so close to russia a careless ive never been ive never known such a political pantomime the that has gone into act im teen. When it stopped being funny and all what children have gone home just leaving the adults as these auto drivel about how russia has played such a prominent role all conspired with donald trump to put him in power that is so provocative that it in the one oasis of sanity that weve had from the trump and thats he didnt want to go to war with russia i mean where did this come from i havent been able to figure it out but its the one its the one side to trump that has been consistent. But he didnt want to go to war with russia he want to go and talk to putin about not going to war with russia to doing a deal the rest of trump what is like a Cartoon Version of previous as. This is a deep state coup against over trying to forge a partnership with most players a rolling coup attempt against the president of the United States at the moment theres no question about that they want him out all the major pillars of power in the United States. Plus the Democratic Party plus most of the media wont trump out because if you take away the whole nato backed circus serious cause which has which is lined up on russias western border a completely threatening presence of nato forces. On the very borderlands through which hitler invaded Russia Soviet Union in nineteen forty one if if you if you take that away then what happens to the great armaments com companies the producers of the f. Thirty five the Lockheed Martin raytheon what what happens to all those congressman who have have done sweetheart deals with the companies throughout what happens to the Nuclear Weapons industry what happens to the whole pyramid upon which power in the United States is is based what led to it one wont go away of course but its threatened in the same way that a republican president Ronald Reagan together with Mikhail Gorbachev threatened it if you like by bringing in the intermediate range Nuclear Weapons treaty at the end which effectively ended the cold war that very treaty and i havent seen this in the newspapers at all that very treaty is wiped out in these latest sanctions that ends the last treaty that might stop. A Nuclear Attack on a lot of the congressional bill signed reluctantly i just get them to i mean we know the trades are mad no is it asian saying shed press a button globe it was a loft of a mill its in this context that you read this news that. We have to go to the Pacific Fleet says publicly that he would be prepared to destroy the whole of china using the table. Is to say that publicly in in such and such a threatening for food is atmosphere in the world. It it shows the degree of irresponsibility if a Nuclear War Breaks out it will almost certainly break out by mistake or accident i can think for a moment that even some of the lunatics that have gone along with this this new legislation that is going for the us congress would want that really one of the truly sane american generals general James Cartwright said a few years ago he lit up a panel that inquired into. The real risk. Faced by people on both sides who have to make a decision very quickly about whether to fire Nuclear Weapons and they brought it down to less than fifteen minutes and the Panel Including general copyright agreed the obvious that its madness but within fifteen minutes of what i just got to just back with us jumbo obviously his campaign repeatedly saying we want an end to all these foreign wars nothing job can do in the face of the whole of go as the deep state little and i dont know the you need to lead is the thing you can do about this against him trump is is a grotesque contradiction he says he says that but he pursues these wars as well its the one who normally is wanting to. To have some peace deal with russia atlee conspiracy people would say ah thats because hes packing them back or putting him in the white house or something ridiculous like that but. Thats that looking at trumps record trumps record is pretty appalling montreux trump is a bit of a wimp compared with obama bomber ended. Having put american to seven wars including the longest war in its in its history having increased the development of Nuclear Warheads more than any president since the cold war obamas record was on the super hawk trampas has a long way to catch up with his previous us so thats why we really should stop simply looking at trump the man to trump as a kind of symptom and i mentioned earlier a character true almost a Cartoon Version of a system a system that has produced people that have almost brought us to the edge of nuclear war joe thank you youre welcome after the break we speak to actor and Cannes Film Festival mc la belle will soon as he switches from the make jokes just starting you want to see a film about marine biologist Jacques Cousteau for told local environmental catastrophe by diving in the depths of the shins and all the similar coming up i bought two of this Season Finale of going underground. I had a great education a good job and a for. I believe the love me. I never had to worry about how i would be somewhere i would sleep. Im facing christmas alone out on the streets of london. Well you love to be honest because i cut the love for you like going to school you know just not in the still give up food for the homeless. Because you dont really feel like a human being in that. And then. The guy just came over to me saw me and gave me a change of this book. Join me every thursday on the elec simon show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Welcome back to a Peer Reviewed journal nature is published in the past few days that there is a ninety five percent chance of the earth will heat up two degrees centigrade or three point six degrees fahrenheit within the next seventy years or thereabouts aside from possible implications that include the twenty First Century ravaged by wars for resources and the displacement or death of tens of millions there are lethal knock on effects for the worlds oceans arguably no Single Person educated the planet about seventy percent of the earth more than Jacques Cousteau french naval officer explorer a conservationist filmmaker innovator scientist photographer author and research or Jacques Cousteaus life is celebrated in a new film the odyssey directed by jerome soule starring as cousteau is an actor a recording artist and director known around the world for his roles in the matrix films bear wilson he joins me now welcome to going underground so whats it like portraying a father son relationship in the film which then so obviously pivots to the fate of the planet itself i think its a relief to concentrate on only one subject father son relationship when youre talking about a man whos known as crystal because you avoid the typical bio pic. Which can be boring and by concentrating on the father son relationship you reveal a lot of the facets aspects of his personality of course his personality. His. Brilliancy and at the same time his selfishness and all sorts of nature and hes a sense of desire to control his own territory hes. So i mean we all know about under the in the oceans basically humanity knows about whats happening under the. A huge upset because of Jacques Cousteau we breathe underwater because if you sue and this is a lot of it will take for granted really religion really because we forget that he invented the famous aqualung in the fortys in one hundred forty three and thats and its not a little accomplishment. When he was the first one to film underwater and spread those images through television and before that for cinema. The Cannes Film Festival in the sixtys for the world of silence. We owe him a lot of things im not saying this because i studied him and i portrayed him i was part of a generation that grew up with him watching his films every week or every fortnight and he gave us a sense of adventure he gave us a sense of fun also because what he was doing with you know his crew onboard calypso seemed you know very french everybody was drinking eating occasionally running after a dolphin or a whale but it just it was the first reality t. V. Show it was the first to absolutely and was a very clever communicator had a great sense of. You know he invented the red beanie because he wanted to kill it so member and youre wearing on that but yes. He wanted the crew of the calypso boat to be identifiable straightaway so he its an old thing that used to be worn by people going under water in these big. Metal things that used to have the beanie under to protect themselves and he used that simply as a it was modern marketing in a way so he said he was a genius but then theres a slow burn through the film until you get to a line like. You speaking as Jacques Cousteaus way that the elimination of materialism is required to save the planet thats a sudden change that comes in the middle of the ville yes i think changed his views about the planet itself ok cousteau is. Representative of mans rapport to nature at the end of the Twentieth Century in the fiftys when he starting diving into filming hes a predator he learned how to dive in order to kill fish and when hes starting to film he uses fish as as material to make sensational images in the sixtys was that all the fish hes been filming in the fortys late fortys have disappeared he starts becoming a little aware and then through a major revelation held by his son felipe who was an activist in ecological activist he called him a militant militant he goes to antartica and realizes that instead of just. Taking the world filming the world he needed to protect the world and then he embarks on this new period in his life. In which hes going to alert the public and hes going to be a whistleblower on ecological issues and to him everything was linked to capitalism the the guilt was on the side of capitalism he was very very pessimistic he never allowed himself to express his pessimism in front of the cameras he did so in his book he was very dark he thought that man was not going to. Realize quickly enough how fragile it all was and so he was you know he was he was he didnt have much hope in see which pessimism in the film was all usual was vacillation ironic and you portrayed this in the film that we owe Big Oil Company its a little bit out of it i wouldnt say all of the character was which is the reason why in france unlike in america or maybe in other countries of the world to in france is. It is still attacked for his ecological actions in the in the fiftys compromises he needed the money to hear the rumors of everything from and simply to to move the boat and so he got his contract with British Petroleum to help them find oil wells near abu dhabi and so he contributed to the destruction of the environment in the in that part of the world but he spent the rest of his life. Making this major mayor cool. And so i think its very unfair but he should be criticized on his attitude in the fiftys you know he refused to have the famous film the world of silence for which he won the palme ago as i was saying he refused to have it altered he could have removed a few images to give himself a better image no he took full responsibility to show the world that this was the attic. In the fiftys that you could use dynamite to get items of samples of fish to study or that you could use young baby whales as a bait for sharks in order to film great scenes he wanted to say this is how we did it the world was our oyster we didnt ask ourselves and questions but now we do and we will have to more and more Russias Vladimir Putin is just going to twenty seventeen year of a call a g china supporting russias Marine Protection area then talk to thats what theyre saying. What do you think Jacques Cousteau would think of these big was talking about it really because Jacques Cousteau and the film is not giving it away because joe and antarctica preservation are where we are legally antartica is preserved because of the action. In the late eightys in the ninetys he went to visit all the heads of states to extend a moratorium that already existed extended until two thousand and forty eight. But he actually worked very hard and he started with the australian Prime Minister and then went he was irritated in washington the Big Oil Companies are telling our elected leaders and the general public that theyre doing what they can what would be saying about socalled green washing and Corporate Law here ok i think that was clever so he made he wanted things to be possible he wanted accomplishments to be made so presumably in the c o p twenty one he wouldve agreed on the. The compromises the arrangements that were made. Thank god we have in france at the moment the equivalent of a cousteau who has does not have such an International Profile but we have nicola you know that has just been hired by. As. Minister of the transition towards ecology which is interesting as a terminology which proves that france intends to really shift its policy as far as you dont think a macro government would bomb a green peace Rainbow Warrior ship protesting Nuclear Testing that sort of thats a tricky question i think that france france still has a tendency to protect national interests. Particularly as far