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RT CrossTalk February 1, 2018

Purpose to make sure there could be no rapprochement with moscow that relations would stay very bad unfortunately i think its largely succeeded in that purpose i have people who are defending trump referring to the seal memo for example say and its full of russian dirt in putins propaganda and we have no way of knowing where this british spook got this or how reliable sources were how much of this was just made up because they were getting paid your client wants dirt will give you dirt well but the russian bad narrative has been so entrenched now im not sure how we get it out you know thats good that leave thats interest thats a very interesting well and i agree with them completely because they die its been cast on that element there ok across the board you can there if you question it to your viewer your europe. Your useful idiots but the interesting thing also that well you know the media the i mean everything on hold or the other side though is that we see the level of. Corruption at the highest echelons of Law Enforcement so you get the worst best worst possible awards worlds here go headly go jump in well heres what it is this is a dish Information Operations against russia period thats what this is and you cant have a decision from ation operation by only going to one side the words youve been talking about the liberal media again im a republican. Supporter and i used to work as the lead Investigative Reporter for breitbart let me say this breitbart has been just as bad on this issue and the right conservative media this is why i say this is a distant permission operation about russia that succeeded not just because the left media the New York Times Washington Post m s n b c and so on but because the right media with stories like the uranium one story for instance which demonizes russia which i hate Hillary Clinton that story is false and you could see that when bannon got in trouble my former boss steve benen got in trouble for saying the it was treated that treasonous trumped our meeting right steve admitted in his apologies walk back he hates russia to lead to what you dont have anything here is what you know im going like you know what i ill let you keep going after our short break and after that short break well continue with our discussion about that infamous memo stay with us. We have a great we need to strengthen the for the free flow. And. To keep it so its at the back. In one thousand nine hundred forty four for the european championships at the very last moment no one believed in us but we won and i hope. Bring some of that waiting spirit to the r. C. C. Recently ive had a lot of practice so i can guarantee you that Peter Schmeichel will be on the best fall since my last will come from that throws or as weve. Thousand old jokes i was only kidding here i called rush. Dr. No i left left left more or less ok stop thats really good. Local walmart is selling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the Chicken Hawks forcing you to fight the battles that they dont. Produce off predator tell you that its not because of the tabloid bias files of the most Important News today. About how you think you are not cool enough to fight their product. These are the hawks that we along with our loved ones. Welcome back across the uk where all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle to remind you were discussing the release of the memo. Ok let me go back to lee and watch and i want to ask all three of you the same question here i mean the mother investigation goes on with the release of this memo does that nullify his investigation or you know lower in its importance here is the if theres going to be depending on what it is i mean weve all heard a lot of different rumors you know a little snippets here i think we all have a pretty good idea what it is and it would seem to neg gates the whole russia gate narrative even though as james has pointed out on the program the damage has already been done ok they can walk away from this in the damage is already dents all go to leap first does this nullify the muslim mother investigation go ahead well it wont heres why what theyre talking about the five stuff happened before muller was on the investigation but theres a wider point of this has not been about russia election interference or russian hacking for ever muller immediately went on a fishing expedition with thing and that is one hundred percent clear there was no attempt for instance if youre legitimately trying to find it in collusion right you look for a quid pro quo wheres the wheres the the what can trump offer wheres the investigation into what trump was getting back for this supposin election interference in other words thats what you have to do every prosecutor knows that a molar knows that too the reason hes going far afield the reason why would he interview. Even steve van and right why would he look into this one and keep magnitsky act. Corp the reason why is this is a dish Information Campaign one of the people who people on the left and right need to watch out for here is a guy bill browder bill browder has been pushing this anti russian narrative and he is key to this whole thing and he is fooled both the left and the right and i gotta say that k. But Everybody Knows that its just know that i think that youre absolutely right but you are really broadening out here ok i want to make sure we dont because you have a deep knowledge of it just like a. J. Does and james as well yeah i mean lets maybe i should rephrase my question what about the perception of the taliban of this investigation once we find out all of the highest echelons of the f. B. I. The d. O. J. Have weaponized their position against their political opposition which ive said before and ill say it again turns the us into a Banana Republic ok go ahead ha what trump must do and i believe what he will do is fire moeller and when the indignation is heard throughout the universe from c. N. N. And assembly see all trump needs to say is this i fired moller because theres no evidence of any collusion or any criminal activity from me or any of my associates pertaining to the mission of the probe Hillary Clinton for example actually committed crimes she removed Top Secret Special Access Program intelligence that the highest level classification from super secure government locations she transferred them in a creative manner that nobody talks talks about from those locations on her on encrypt once on encrypted server that is a crime under the espionage act u. S. Code seventy three f. What peter struck did is remove gross negligence five times the references which directly relates to the espionage act and that statute you dont even need gross negligence because she paid by parking on a five thousand dollars the issue that i dont. Know what youre doing and im going to cut you im not overwhelmed that you went down this as. But it actually proves a point here james brings up this point we have these two narratives out there and depending on how you see politics is what youre going to stress i agree because Hillary Clinton was given a free pass over and over and over again donald trump like a murder dont like him there is no evidence that he committed a crime not yet after all this time ok though the other side and so you have c n n n n b c do not want to talk about the crimes of Hillary Clinton and her mafia gang because thats essentially what they are ok and all they can do is focus on me going to james theyre all they can do is focus on the what they believe what they hope what they pray for our sins of donald trump but in all those words i just used its not a legal go ahead james. I hope ha is right that molar will be out i think that means also getting rid of Rod Rosenstein the Deputy Attorney general and possibly replacing Jeff Sessions with somebody will actually do something about this stuff but my concern is this is that molar is captain ahab going after the great orange whale here and even if they cant find a real crime real collusion just like with general flynn and George Papadopoulos you try to trap somebody into a process crime thats why hes so keen to interview trump personally and try to find some way to twist his words into either perjury or obstruction of justice so he would have though there was no crime of collusion or theres no crime but all you can get him to say but in the process of the investigation he did commit a crime he committed perjury when he talked to me and thats what theyre really hoping to do and he wants the nail some more to the wall to justify saying that i think at the end of the day hes not going to do a one on one i dont think his lawyers are going to let him do that ok thats the typical bravado and i dont know is any way fires real or you know what i think it took to lead is an interesting point because what i what i think is again when i talked about these battling. Narratives lets lets just say for example ok the memo is released at the end of the week it will have an earthquake effect ok who knows soon after mother may give his assessment here the problem is is whos going to believe which narrative ok because impeachment as we all know is not a Legal Process its a political process so even if mohler says trump is guilty of this it goes to the house of representatives if the other narrative is so much more can palings then then we get this gridlock oh we get the train crash ok because even irrespective what mahler has to say it may not have the political implications that he and the liberal elites and the media want and thats going to be a very interesting parlay if it happens go headly this is what i think the danger is when i say this is a different Information Campaign its really important to understand this all but narratives lead to russia bad thats what im saying the one democrat narrative leads to russia bad we know that thats clear but the republican narrative also leads to russia bad and thats the point this is been a very successful dissin permission campaign because the facts are actually not that difficult to determine anybody can look into this for themselves and learn the facts of this case they can see what crowd strike did they can see who didnt tell us and thats guy whos that that russian lets just talk about that shes that russian lawyer thats all you need to say shes already been cast as like natasha right in the rocky and bullwinkle right shes that russian lawyer and and and she is that russian lawyer to both the left and the right the right believe this is what the right believes because my thats where i live i live on the right people on the right falsely believe that this was a setup that she was put in there by the clintons because shes connected to fusion g p. Absolutely no fusion g. P. S. Limbaugh they dont even get whats going on there and the left goes oh no no shes that russian lawyers or she just she was sent in by putin they all actually agree on it and i think the good thing is ok but no they hang on to sort of wake up and figure this out on both sides i hope so but i dont have a lot of hope but this is a and oasis right here on cross talk ok because well talk about all of the issues here i dont have much hope for m s n b c i watched morning joke and meager today i mean what what universe did they live in i have no idea what theyre talking about here ha i think we all kind of agreed that you know the die is been cast here i mean Us Russian Relations are for a generation done ok and i actually i dont really think about it much anymore ok because theres not much of that to be done about it but what i think is really interesting here in perth me personally its not about trump its not about hillary its about the the future of the republic institutions and the very idea of democracy Bernie Sanders was burned ok he got it was stolen from him we had the clinton clan they tried to steal the general ok and now they want the these same people they want to overturn the democratic decision of the American People and they dont care one hoot if they have to destroy everything in the process go ahead ha. Well this is all about. That you said democrats cheating Bernie Sanders Debbie Wasserman schultz being forced to step down then losing one point two billion dollars with a failed candidate who was under an actual criminal investigation so. In terms of competing narratives there was evidence of crimes she committed crimes but she komi and struck and mccabe said she didnt intentionally commit the crimes she was the subject of the end of the investigation with trump hes not the subject of any investigation is as always this nebulous ambiguous i will people around him and theres a whole lot of smoke we cant prove anything. I think its despicable that the Democratic Party chose to start a new cold war because they couldnt rely on anyone else sees it and they couldnt they certainly couldnt rely on anything that Bernie Sanders stood for thats what he did is that she did bernie thats part of this struck the destruction that im talking about ha ha because you know the Democratic Party is shown itself to for what it is absolutely corrupt or james let me go to you will if if komi goes to jail will you send him a file in a cake i mean will you feel sorry for comi ok. Seriously because i think you know you know what he thought he forgave you know the irony is he a major hillary didnt go to jail because of that he probably might go to jail james go ahead please dont i know im not going to send him a file of the cake or i wont send him anything though look obviously there are a lot of people here should or should go to jail i have to tell you honestly i am more concerned about the Bigger Picture as its been pointed out by my two colleagues this isnt just on the left that russia bad or its the right as well the damage is done and im not complacent about it because if you look at the way were digging down deep into syria even though isis is on the ropes we have no reason to be there we should be declaring victory and getting out are being lethal weapons to ukraine were probing. Russias territorial waters where their aircraft i am afraid you know they keep talking about nine hundred thirty nine put in on the march this is more like nine hundred forty k. Now here is jam being the very minute you have been here but if we did not do it let me jump in here gentlemen i want to make a quick statement to to you and to our viewers i. Robert perry passed away a few days ago over a Consortium News dot com a very courageous very brave very honest journalist we are all going to miss him very much very much condolences to his family and i can tell you theres no one in the world that will ever be able to replace the dignity that man in his writing so god bless to him and his family and i and thats how we end our program i want to thank my guests in washington and in los angeles and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at our to see you next time and remember. This little bundle of joy he would have no chance of surviving in the one mother is can only win one come at a time but usually. Every year china puts a lot of effort into making up for this cruel mistake of nature. Is just. Chinas penda breeding has become something of a production. 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