Julian assange one of the usas most wanted whistleblowers or if you believe the boss of the cia an individual threatening the lives of three hundred twenty three Million People its time to call out wiki leaks for what it really is a nonstate Hostile Intelligence Service often abetted by state actors like russia some might argue that isnt just publishing of cables has contributed to International Security by revealing nato war crimes but that belief appears not to be shared by the British CrownProsecution Service which decides on court action in the name of the queen fighting discredited rape allegations astonished has not until this week been able to determine just how politicized his case is been because the c. P. S. Allegedly destroyed information british prosecutors have reportedly admitted deleting email exchanges with the swedish counterparts weve got in the case of wiki leaks founder Julian Assange and this happened back in two thousand and fourteen but was it twenty fourteen. Now confidential emails show that swedish prosecutors attempted to drop extradition proceedings against Julian Assange much earlier and who is the boss of the c. B. S. In twenty thirteen none other than jeremy corbins current shadow brecks at secretary starmer here he is talking generally about his role in extradition one in a scientist case which seems more and more to be arguably political we dont use. These functions a maritime to separate us from legal comprehends systems his file. Heres the official request heres the full monte as we would like you to conduct the extradition proceedings on our behalf with. The police. But we cant use a republic in this. Part of. The empty to see whether they are not. Really because when that man corbins current shadow directorate secretary was in charge emails apparently showed that the country in question sweden was eager to drop the case later even discredited by the un not only that but a lawyer working for care stoma urge sweden dont you dare get cold feet and arguably even more damning for k. S. Drama it is simply amazing how much work this case is generating it sometimes seems like an industry please do not think this case is being dealt with as just another extradition assad would certainly maintain this was not just another extradition in fact for him this whole thing is a smokescreen for the usa to destroy wiki leaks because of war crime revelations to which side with iran lifelong critic of us Foreign PolicyJeremy Corbyn may have now promoted him but in twenty sixteen kids storm assault to destroy german corbins leadership of the labor party he resigned advising that corbin could not lead an effective opposition today he has the complex job of shadow rex at secretary well kid star also voted against an investigation into the iraq war in britain fifteen years ago. Tomorrow saw its biggest ever demonstration against that labor government mandated war widely seen as illegal against that u. K. Decision which to permanent u. N. Security Council Members china and russia and the Russian Ambassador to britain joins me now ambassador thanks for coming on the show teresa mayes new defense secretary lets get straight to it Gavin Williamson says that your child getting you came first structure threatening the lives of thousands of british subjects why are you doing that well were not going to target the british infrastructure this is absolutely irresponsible statement of the minister of defense so everything what is happening to do most of the british media this is the time of the getting money for the budget for the military budget and thats why they might at least my explanation is that the minister of defense wants to put more money and thats why you have to show the threat so the most convenient threat of course is russia would trust our famous tweeter because you know weve got so many leads the responses to this statement and the people are not taking this seriously so do we what if theyre russian boats as the british media say which of course is being accused of in influencing our brakes a driver and a very good english language but i think this is the people because you know in most of the cases you know we see it when the the latest in the newspapers im quite sure that in the newspapers you dont have boats ok some people my daughter come across the Russian Embassy in londons account but more generally is there a cyber war being conducted from moscow against nato powers no and ill tell you why because there are no facts and what is interesting of course you read a lot of things in the newspapers but Boris Johnson was in moscow that was on the twenty second of december and. We discussed this problem that was raised by a lover of he said mr secretary you dont have a. Effects huge are we here just the statements in the British Press which are very lets say they are not proved by anything why dont we have the consultations between our specialists russian british and if you have any facts you know if you have something in your hands please present it to us and the professionals could sit down talk about the sources about the proof and you know what what was the response is from Boris Johnsons going to his to no. Good question you know if you dont have anything. Of course. You can expect this kind of response ok you deny to cyberwar what about actual war not a week appears to go by without. The usual mainstream sources b. B. C. Sky news channel four news is suggesting that your military is invading over these threatening to invade our airspace and our waterways first of all only british soldiers are standing on no borders this is in the store eight hundred british soldiers located there its not russian soldiers on the border with scotland or england this is the british soldiers on the border with russia this is first. Second i think that. All this league ations about the interference into the brits or sky is you know in the zone of the british interests theyre not supporting by any effect russians aircraft flying in International Airspace they never cross the air spoiler space over britain so thats why we allowed like anybody else to fly in the International Airspace ok but then the overriding context of this obviously is the British Governments attitude that you have invaded crimea. A view as usual going to say you did not invade crimea you know what we did. We supported the people of crimea because you know whence the once there was a coup in kiev. And the legitimate president unocal which was removed by the regime of poroshenko and the government of the winner so they call it the people in premier decided to have a referendum and so they voted ninety seven percent voted in favor of independence crimea because the they were freed of the changes that took place in kiev and later on very soon they decided to ask in other referendum to join russia and this is you know how how the creamier became part of russia is a point made repeatedly by a foreign minister as well but then they use here is you saying that nato battle groups now as you mentioned on a stone in poland in lithuania latvia theyre wasting their time and including british troops theyre just wasting their time on your borders and spending money but youre not denying that Vladimir Putin is a militaristic leader who is looking for expansionism of a Russian Federation he has expanded the Russian Federation you know like this still is because. There is a very Good InstituteInternational Institute of strategic studies which is based in london and they just released a report and if you look at that you know about the military budgets you will find that the budget of russia one year is forty six billion dollars the budget of the u. K. Is fifty two billion dollars so the british are spending more than were doing and the budget of the United States military budget for one year its seven hundred billion dollars it means that the whole nato spends almost a trillion against forty six billion dollars so roughly twenty times more so make your own conclusions another context of this course is what were hearing about for the United States. And Rex Tillerson this existence as you will be meddling with us mid terms you already have plans for the twenty twenty elections in the United States hand of course we hear in british media repeatedly that you. Meddled and i suppose i can give you that one they havent got proof of that the rex address for and what do you think of it when the sec us secretary of state says you have plans well ill tell you first of all the run no effect thats exactly what my minister said several times to Rex Tillerson you know if you have something please present it so for no facts were presented but there was a quite an interesting story you know with the social media you remember that the facebook was asked how much money the russian side or the Russian Companies you know spain spend on socalled you know breaks to complain and it was almost peanuts you tube they answer they fishel and so worse and that was published in the british newspaper zero and you have this memory serves in the twitter almost. The same answer so basically from my point of view this is just the complaint which is not supported by any evidence. Ok as well as all of that on mainstream channels the same day to b. B. C. Channel four news group iraq sky news we are told repeatedly that your country is currently murdering hundreds of civilians in syria using warplanes and we have White Helmets footage which is broadcast that appear to prove that you are engaged in very contravening any kind of principles of war we dont trust helmets because first this is. Financed by the British Government is clear this is just a fact of life so they are biased in this case this is first and their participation in some other places you know where allegedly was used the chemical weapons was put on the question by the facts and. The they were participating in so many operations which were parishioners thats where stage that we dont have a new trust. To the White Helmets and theyre basically the whole information that theyre presenting has nothing to do with the reality were waiting to statements from the White Helmets and the Foreign Office but. Why on earth would the British Government want to fund a proxy Guerrilla Force and i know there have been allegations that they are cooperating with al nasrallah and you are going to what would be in the british interest to do that and then forge information that the Russian Military were engaged in atrocities ill tell you its the question to the British Government you know the only thing that i want to say is that there were quite an interesting discussion you know debate in the parliament and the British Government was ask you know how was two hundred million spent for socalled moderate opposition and so on they could justify only forty eight million all the rest they couldnt even find the answer how this money was spent and ill tell you that a lot of m. P. s were surprise and we were surprised but of that money went to the what hellmans where the other one. So thats the question to the government and thats the question was posed by the m. P. You know by the russians so make your own conclusions i know its only late breaking news a bit. At the ministry of defense in russia and this. Of that appears to say they received a call that the White Helmets may be involved in perhaps a future chemical attack anything on that here in the i dont know i dont have any information but that would be like saying a british funded agency was threatening a chemical attack in syria well ill tell you better listen you know to the commands of the Foreign Office they are very quick on some comments Russian Ambassador thank you more from the ambassador after the break plus a look at the papers with associate fellow Chatham House professor Matthew Goodwin thats all coming up in bottom of going underground. For. The book. And its Getting International recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos and dismiss it. Like you know. This isnt my cup of tea is going on sunday on meet. The only palestinians is who gets the most help from its jerusalem counterparts i dont think theres some of those who in the world under the vision to look at this. And theres a lot. I dont know do. Welcome back were still here with the Russian Ambassador to britain alexander of enco another context to all of this is the upcoming russian president ial elections and its particularly liberal outlets socalled liberal out as like the guardian i think the assistant editor of the Guardian Simon tisdall saying the u. K. Should be outraged by russia because of the treatment of Opposition Leader novell me that he cannot run against Vladimir Putin what do you think about this growing sense in britain as we approach the recent russian president ial elections that you know really democracy up state and youre not allowing people to run its very interesting you know like the british media they always say hop truth because you know work in every country we have rules and we have a constitution so basically anybody in the in russia could run for the president lee presidency but the one of the conditions you shouldnt have a criminal record. And nobody has this. Criminal record at least two of them how they he can run for the president once you have this big round so this is the simple answer but its not you will never read it in the any british newspaper that he has he had a criminal record so this is under the constitution he cannot simply run for the presidency thats it there are so many articles which is written you know in the u. K. And unfortunately all of them are very negative to putin i didnt read in a single article which is more or less even neutral and from my point of view its sort of we have been meddling you know to the to the elections because you know its just. To present a very negative information of one candidate its not a fair game the British Government regulating the russian snow never to go with them talking about the Media Freedom free and independent i mean they say about the bridge ago and i have to ask you have in britain very much still involved in the Syria Campaign what was your reaction when you heard these reports that you came back to u. S. Warplanes wiped out perhaps a hundred. Syrian forces fighting isis to hash in syria the major problem that we have with the british side is that the british side is Still Holding the position that assad must go and from my point of use an acceptable because in a best democratic traditions of the worst this is the people of syria should decide you know whether who is going to be the president so basically were trying to convince our british. Colleagues and the portmans you know just look at this you know from different points of view and but as far as i know the Foreign Office didnt change its position you know sometimes it sounds a little bit louder sometimes you know less loud but the core of their position is the same so basically. Is there some kind of a follow up of that. Approach is what what you hear today in the British Press you know in the statements of the ridges go and i know that the russian president appears to have a cold according to british media sources that are whether you can confirm that or not he has met with the palestinian president what do you think of what the palestinians are saying that the United States cannot at all be an honest broker rule russia be taking a bigger. Space in this socalled Peace Process well i understand the palestinians because you know when when when the u. S. Decided to acknowledge the druce them as the capital. Of israel so that was very one sided approach so basically and what about the two state solution where the police teens and police to us today they believe that. The United States simply dont take into account their position so i fully understand you know what they feel and from that point of view of course from my point of view that the u. S. Should have a little bit more balanced position on that subject could we see a moscow summit well were always open the you know for the conversations and the proposal to held a meeting between the israelis and the police genius in moscow it is on the table we will behave you to be honest brokers but its up to the two sides i mean a lot of people are a political and or at least apathetic about politics but they are probably watching the winter games in korea fully pleased to watch the two kor