Republicans together around hungry children and they laid aside their differences in made peace and brought four majors successes for the World Food Program but we want to take the same concept using food as a weapon of peace a weapon of unification as we do that with different tribes children from different ethnic groups trying to bring different sites is together terrorist groups like isis and alqaeda book Raman Al Shabaab they want to use food as a weapon of starvation a weapon of war or weapon of division and we see food as a weapon of opportunity of Development Sustainable to build a success from not just bringing in the Music Together but bring in nations together and so now correct me if im wrong but i think even after securing that on the part of the United States the problem before famine remains very very accurate were still talking about millions of people on the bring of not just starvation but on the brink of death and i heard you say that the only two solutions are number one getting enough funding to feed the people and number two stopping the war is which one of these you find more realistic more achievable at this point of time. The only answer is starvation and hunger the scone up now for the first time in the years because in the wars. Is a heck of a problem the International Community in the world has dropped the hunger rate over the past hundreds of years the particularly in the last twenty five years even though the population of the world went from five point three billion to seven point five billion the hunger rated dropped from a billion to seven hundred seventy seven million but now the hunger rates going up to eight hundred fifteen million thats hungry people me very hungry people on the brink of they dont know where their next meal is now one hundred and nine million in this all of this escalation is all because of manmade conflict absolutely thats why im asking you mr beazley since you seem to believe that it is possible to those wars. Peace is an aspiration for all of us but im sure in your daily line of work you deal with the green reality rather than aspirations of what makes you believe given there what you just said the the turnaround in the statistics very dispiriting turn around in the statistics what makes you believe that the International Community all of a sudden the bill be able to you know change its mind and put them to all that complex well theres still a dream in my heart that the hopes of people every person i meet i tend to think there is a desire in their heart to have peace and i think sometimes. In diplomacy circles we tend to talk about the Little Things that distract us versus the bigger things that can attract us and i think the United Nations in my opinion has not done the job that it should have done in the past twenty thirty years but i think you have new leadership in the United Nations i think you have new leadership around the world this really looking to find paths of opportunity but until we have those conflicts resolved we have to have money in the World Food Program and then we have to have access so yes we were able to avert famines the four famines that we faced faced in the past couple of years and face right now we were able to avert the famine but the number of hungry people went up and were still facing famine in several of these countries where yemen is a very desperate situation somalia with the drought and the complexities there and then you get of course a south sudan is nothing but warfare and then northeast nigeria which is ethnic tribal conflict based upon ices and alqaeda. And then you bring in the drought in the Lake Chad Basin its a terrible situation and what exactly can be International Community can do about that because from what i know theyre trying to ministration is also intending to cut its funding of the peacekeeping operation so i assume thats not going to be easy to realize your own vision well i think youll see realignment as the peacekeeping but thatll have to work through itself within the International Community but i do think of the International Players have got to step up in a way they have not done before for example each country will come into a country as a donor and have their program siloed. I have been saying to the International Community these very fragile communities like in the greater sahara larry we need to come in with a strategic comprehensive holistic approach revive Sustainability Sustainable Development resilience for example in the United NationsWorld Food Program we believe that every Single Person this enabled body to know whos receiving food they ought to be in the Community DevelopmentImprovement Program before that you have to solve the number one issue which is meet conflict you mentioned the word the way yemen and i want to seize that this is a potential chalk specifically about this country because i think its stands out as a as a confluence of disasters i heard you say that youve been trying to raise the issue of the saudi contact with the trumpet ministration did you find it responsive yes its been interesting to watch and see that the International Community has has come together to help bring about a change in the saudi in the sort of coalition by that you mean their pledge that they made just recently of additional aid and easing out of there saying well you know two or three things number one the Saudi Led Coalition in the blockade was creating catastrophic situation and so lack of money lack of access was a huge issue but we really are see the sea change in the Saudi Led Coalition in terms of the blockade and they exist now weve got to get access on the ground with these and so were working with the who these and all parties involved to make certain that we have the money we need and then the access we need on the ground so weve got to get the food in from the air in the sea and then on the ground is so were making tremendous headway but the blockade set us back quite a bit so were looking at seven point four Million People literally literally on the brink of starvation thats was about eight point four Million People of the total population of twenty nine million in the in the are on the brink of starvation. If we dont get the excess and the food we need with the fuel that we need to be able to move the supplies the food the medicines youre going to have a catastrophic event there now there are lots of International OrganizationsNational Governments that can downplay saudia way of waging a war on yemen but it doesnt seem to change. To have changed their behavior much now i notice something about your own personal thout i think you like to practice a lot of positive reinforcement do you think that me get a better traction with the saudis we are in my opinion were seeing a positive turn in the right direction with the saudis in the saudi the coalition i have been traveling to the middle east lately had very positive meetings and trying to appeal to the heart that you know these innocent victims of this conflict the children they dont deserve this this is a nation that is now in ruins and we need to step up as ive told the saudis and others if youre not willing to stop the war then you have a moral obligation to make certain that the humanitarian fallout the consequences are met and no child should be left behind in this country and so mr meehan im sorry for interrupting but i used to know the first person to tell them that and yet. They seem to have been very very little change in the way more was scared out of the last i cant explain or justify that because i havent been in this position but they tend to believe that they would actually listen to you as opposed to not listening to anyone else because were already seeing results were seeing a major shift in some of the campaigns with regards to air campaigns and other campaigns and hospitals and other facilities in the poor were seeing them choose to step up now monetarily were seeing that step up in terms of providing access within the country that they have control were seeing them open up the port in terms of the barricade or you know its so were seeing some very significant positive movement right now and were actually seeing some positive movement with huet these now so were hopeful that food may be the weapon the School Brings some peace in this country but lets see well lets keep our fingers crossed for sure we have to take a very short break now but he. 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Welcome back to worlds apart with David Beasley executive director of the World Food Program mr beazley earlier this month ministration and its vision of the u. S. Budget for the fiscal year of two thousand and nineteen which features a substantial increase in military spending cuts and social spending as well as some restructuring of the u. S. Contributions to the United Nations have you done any preliminary estimates of how this proposed pattern of spending may or fact they World Food Program you know the president s budget very well dramatically impacted us but if you know anything about the u. S. Process of budgeting this the house and senate makes the final decision we feel very confident before that the process is that works its way through the president. And the leadership in the senate in the house will come together with a budget that will be that i think will be good for the World Food Programme so we can but continued to address around the world and then when you think about the United States commitment to the World Food Program last year two thousand and seventeen was two point five billion dollars this year you know were hopeful that we can come out with at least two billion but im confident that the leadership in the United States will stay strong on International Humanitarian aid now in many of your public appearances yes trust that feeding the worlds most vulnerable is a viable alternative to military spending you think its a way of combating extremism and apparently the president perhaps has a different view on that what is your strategy now to try to dissuade the president ought to try to work with the congress and hopefully defeat his budgeting proposals there well as ive told my friends in the u. S. Senate and the u. S. House the republicans and the democrats as well as the president and his administration if you want to spend another half a trillion dollars on military cut the World Food Program. Because we are the first line of us and it is him doing that exactly why nothing that hes been very supportive of me dont miscalculate the budgetary process ive been a United States governor so i know how the system works but i believe divorce all said and done the president who has said publicly very clearly that one thing the United Nations does good is feeds people and so hes been very supportive of our programs and i think he will continue to do so now you are known for having press mr trump for shaking up the system as be already discussed i think part of your point was multifaith that by a desire to shield the world from program from the aftershocks of about shake up i wonder how do you see yourself as the executive director of based organizations are you a disruptor or are you a protector well as i said one time when i was a late the states governor and one of the lead bureaucrats who if you do that mr governor who you know really create chaos in us will have come to create chaos jokingly but the point is you have to evaluate every system whats working it was working patted on the back keep going this is not working how do we restructure it so in the United Nations there needs to be restructured in the World Food Program was the are amazing operate machine what they do in the World Food Program is not just about emergency conditions like the tsunami and earthquake or volcano or a hurricane its more than that its also about Sustainable Development is jim protected what we awards eighty two percent of our spending now is in war zones but how do we sustain a community so every able bodied person all this to receive food or to be in the community Improvement Program every child in the developing nation ought to be in a School Meals Program so how do we push that forward change the approach could you can go into some of these countries with the United Nations has been for twenty thirty years spent hundreds of millions and billions of dollars. Have nothing to show for so you need to step back say what are we not doing right and so i think i bring that to the table this revaluate with understood fresh eyes in the see what works and what does it worry and lets dont worry about ego lets dont worry about who gets the credit lets worry about those innocent children out there who we wont dreams to be fulfilled now i personally if find you very sincere when you talk about the plight of hungry people around the world but i think foot insecurity is increasingly an issue for the United States and specifically in those very same communities that vote that donald trump into the oval office do you think youre on massachusetts with the americans who themselves some thomas have to skip meals in order to feed their own. You know i do a lot of t. V. Shows in the United States and i come from the more conservative side in the cities and when i sit down with those who otherwise would have concerns about humanitarian or International Aid they stated them very clearly there are International Humanitarian programs that may very well be a waste of money but the World Food Program is the essence of who we are as a people in the world and were about helping people but do it in such a way that doesnt create dependency but hopefully create so sufficiency resilience and so when i explained what were doing and where were doing it how were doing it its amazing the response i get from the left and the right and thats why and what ive seen in the United States republicans and democrats may fight on Everything Else but when it comes to helping hungry children around the world fulfill their dreams they come together but mr and mr president this is not exactly what im asking you about im sure if you ask any person no matter where why their children have to be fat everybody will fail yes but i think. Sometimes president ial mandate involves making it difficult decision thats been helping starving children in africa or helping will norrish children in the United States im not suggesting you make that decision for the present but how would you guys hear through that thinking process theres enough wealth. To do both theres clearly enough wealth there is now three hundred trillion dollars of Global Wealth in the world today were just talking about a few billion dollars when i look at how much money we spend in the World Military we just talk about a few more billion dollars to save the lives of people around the world in doing it such a way that doesnt create dependency and without much wealth in the United States that much wealth in the rest of the world is inexcusable for any person in the world today to go to bed hungry now as the United States is reevaluating its brawl its share in the International Organizations have you noticed any. Qualitative change in the policies of other countries perhaps other big donors have