Some real news im joined by my guest mark sloboda hes an International Affairs and security analyst we also have alex chris so far hes the director and writer for the duran dot com and we have Dmitri Bobbitt shes a political analyst with Sputnik International rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it mark lets first go to this authorization for the use of military force the pentagon says. It doesnt need any kind of authorization because the authorization that the u. S. Government gave to the military to intervene in iraq still holds though isis didnt exist in two thousand and three. Under International Law this is just a blatant violation there is no there is no United NationsSecurity Council resolution the country involved syria has not requested for help and on top of it you you have. A military presence in a country where you possibly could go into a military coup. With another mate a nato country turkey and of course its a face down with russia is this authorization issue hortons or not of course its important first of all there of course there is no u. N. Security council authorization for the u. S. To be in syria there is there there in defiance of the syrian u. N. Recognized Syrian Government that wants them to leave that there is obvious there partitioning the country but what has the u. S. Ever cared about International Law so that doesnt even appear in the u. S. Media because you never hear about it right but we get to the issue that is also still barely covered which is is the u. S. Legality of the war in syria of the war on syria and its done under the two thousand and one two thousand and three authorization of the use of military force for iraq against al qaeda which is still being used by the United States to justify its presence in military conflicts all of course themselves and this is a justification for endless wars thinking they say that they have the authorization you just move the goalpost as it were and say this is what covers it ok i suppose it will fly to yemen in somalia and only those that make part of it what it is ok so i mean you know if it. Its already a justification and it doesnt matter the circumstances that was done once and it applies the entire region you know this never get that obama is the person that ramped up the u. S. Presence in syria and so the justification was to fight alqaeda then obama comes and he supports an alqaeda isis springs up out of out of al qaeda and now trumpet his generals and i would even say trump i would say the generals are going to show their you know you know where im going there now using it as an excuse to have u. S. Troops permanently based in syria and alexander occurs with a very good piece in the round about this explaining that this is really the United States is playing. See option and know whats talking about the u. S. Plan c. Which is actually derived from its big masters that many people think is the person thats pushing the u. S. Permanent presence in syria more out of spite than anything else so this is the situation you have a country thats not why did not invade like mark said no one no one theres no international Security Council resolution nothing for the u. S. To be there but there they are and theyre not going to leave easily we had trump when he was speaking publicly the press conference a quote get isis and go home ok let me have the whole thing there were right there for one reason to get rid of isis and get rid of isis and go home but his generals. Have been saying for weeks if not months on this program Say Something very different but look what it will spread from two thousand and one it was their attack against the United States you know the point that was when this authority was given it was going. Anyway so two thousand one mary mind you out of nineteen terrorists who participated in that terrorist acts fifteen were sold yes there was not a single syrian not a single iraqi not a single but because of this event the United States intervened in the bit. In iraq in syria i know they say that if the Government Troops get too close to them in syria theyre going to self defense soon to attack them and thats good thats a second the next level of. I legal regime change it depends because several buildings were destroyed in the United States back in two thousand and one by the people who were not citizens or syria but who somehow lived in the same region who actually were citizens of a country that is our ally and we just sold them one hundred billion dollars worth of weapons but thats not important what is important is that it opened in two thousand one and now we can kill anyone who gets close to us in syria syrians good. Close to the u. S. Soldier in syria itself the facts thats like russia moving troops within its own border and its called a provocation you know where one of the interesting from a media point of view is it any time trump says something he quote unquote lies is that the liberal media like to say this is a perfect example of saying something that has nothing to do with policy but nobody says a word a word its remarkable how the mainstream liberal media they wont jump on this theyll jump on just about anything else is long as the neocon agenda is moved forward he can quote unquote law all he wants there because there is no opposition in either the u. S. You know political elite or within the media only they are all cheerleading us regime change efforts now transitioning to partition efforts in syria theyre all back at theres theres no objection even if trump is doing it in fact thats the few minutes that he actually gets some temporary plaudits right now when he does take over military action there i thought it was a little funny this week to see tim kaine the democratic senator question. The trumpet ministrations Legal Authority to be there when there is using the exact same authority that obama used to be there clinton supported use to be there so tim kaines objections come off as more learn a little bit artisan you know my first question to you why is it important alex it is really really important because. What we had on the as a backdrop of the pentagon papers in one nine hundred seventy one about u. S. Behavior in indochina and i rank everyone here by age but i remember the talk of the imperial presidency where the president has the right to do on a whim like we saw the missile strikes i think in april the trump conducted against syria this is what i find really quite disturbing because we dont. We went yeah exactly but you know you have congress you know when it used to close hank cling on to hits authorities when it came to Foreign Policy now theyre just giving it away and for. Democrats and liberals. This is very strange of the ones that want to accountability from the imperial presidency but theyre only adding fuel to this and the congress has essentially walked away from its obligations when it comes to Foreign Policy as mark said there is no debate about any of these issues and the issues of war and peace could not be more important than what look lets not forget going back to when trump did send missiles on to the airbase in syria the first Mainstream Media or she would have. Missiles Brian Williams c. N. N. Said he finally became president this is the day when trump became president starting to think araya so there are you so you have this president ial when it comes to war there has this is not a partisan issue is it important to think first of all congress has completely abrogated its authority its Constitutional Authority to declare war the president the executive offices by the constitution does not have the Power Congress for decades now has refused to take that power back why because its in pursuit of us germany their own support of it but congress has tried to take Foreign Policy powers that they dont have and this was russia comes to knowing it was the sanctions against us enemies russia iran and others where they tried to force so the Trump Administration to their vision of Foreign Policy which is economic war against iran lets not forget that obama wanted to invade syria and he went to congress to try to congress would have conforte but the American People did not have a nap it was like an invasion just like it happened in britain and they still went in and obama still bomb syria to the point where they would go more slowly really troops into where we are today with and ive said support. Mark you know once you get boots on the ground its hard they like to stay here you know the game and all of this. I mean the military now is being given probably more money than it can possibly spend and again a bipartisan for such a contentious political environment give the military more money ok this is a recipe for absolute disaster its true because u. S. Military budget now is over seven hundred billion dollars and its better that is not included war it doesnt do and id like to point out to our viewers here is that there was in a regional budget and then there was an increase that increase is much is what russia spends on defense in here because every year that to russia spends between sixty and seventy billion in its best years which is satellites and saudi arabia were serious which is the way to seventy percent or what nato is european l. Y. Spend on their defense my use of it u. S. So russia which spends four times less there than you would be an hour or so on they dont defense is so dangerous its moving its troops inside its own borders its created and you were thrown out of war in europe thats the object that we get for all the newspapers not only in the United States about also you dont see too many russian warships in the great lakes to you correct me if im wrong there but they go they do go to the black sea now theyre the baltic sea right next to St Petersburg i think alex put up a really good point before this is about the nature of alqaeda in syria. I wouldnt say that isis came from alqaeda it had kind of its own roots in the u. S. Occupation of iraq and then spread into syria the number of passes and others who were imprisoned by the by u. S. Authorities tortured there and its and so not that thats any kind of justification for what isis became but it then spread into syria and at times they were allied with both the u. S. Backed Free Syrian Army and with alqaeda such as when east aleppo was taken but all through this this conflict while the u. S. Government was maintaining their fiction pruning isis where they wanted to and letting it go when it came up against government areas they have never fought alqaeda in syria and sack hold they have hold out that were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on some real news stay with us. Everybody im stephen both test hollywood guy you know suspect every proud american first of all im just george bush in our view to say this is my buddy max famous financial guru just a little bit different im. Going to learn a new windows up with all the drama happening in our country and im shooting the road to have fun every day americans. And hopefully start to bridge the gap this is the great American People. Feel and thats what they are the d. N. A. Of a lot the last sighting shot of six soyinka. 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Security Council Resolutions demanding that isis and al qaeda and anyone who associates it with it and this is the problem is that the us and western media has as painfully admitted to it. Though they didnt immediately disregard it that the u. S. Has illegally armed trained and salaried secretary miller. Its that are literally allied embedded within a much larger al qaeda for years so this was done primarily under obama trumper supposedly stopped this policy but theyre using an authorization of use of military force against al qaeda for their presence in the fortys in syria when the u. S. Has literally been aiding al qaeda in syria or syria had nothing to do is ok go ahead and just let me remind you of all the highs today that we had last week about the bombardment over used you know civilians die in there while pool more of the route is from is to defend in the southwestern part of it but let me remind you that in two thousand and nine in the beginning of two thousand and nine israel started a parisian cost let in and told me similar situation four People Killed by hamas missiles from gaza four people were killed in damascus the day before the start of the bombardment by the me so i was coming from is good well israel during that operation killed at least one hundred so one thousand one hundred sixty six civilians two hundred fifty out of them children and thats normal Russian Press reporting and thats the guardian citing sources in the International Humanitarian organizations and israel was trying to decimate the military structural hamas well hamas compared to these from a sit in is dont go to is a company of sunday school boys you know hamas is a Palestinian Branch of more so than brotherhood basically the organization that was supposed to oust mr mr with american aid in the beginning of all of this yes then a lot more radical organizations took over as it could be expected in syria and no one is saying you know israel should be punished but want to deal in two thousand and nine eleven though the Syrian Government is doing exactly the same thing only its only territory you know the interesting thing about. This before alex you know in everything weve said right here and with the medias coverage when it does coverage of these things which is very little serious not even treated as a sovereign country its like a doormat that everybody walks on ok and i think thing again the way i started out this program about. The use military force. Is solidarity and this is what really has to be recognized by our viewers i mean russia is there by invitation by the legitimate Syrian Government and. In in the in the end this is the crux of the whole thing we have a president that appears to be appears to me at least asleep at the wheel he doesnt know what his generals are doing he doesnt understand the policy he makes himself feel good by giving them all the money that they want but you know syria is ignored as a sovereign state you know its really reported on and what is reported out exactly as you say it seems as if the u. S. Has a right to be there and that the u. S. Should be governing in damascus you know what is assad doing there when the americans should be there running the country and thats the position thats presented or israel or is it on whether its b. C. Or fox saudi arabia or a turkey immediately if you want a topic that both of these networks agree on its how the u. S. Has the right to be in syria back to the point of money given to trouble i think its extremely whole areas that you have the one part of the u. S. Its demonizing trump and saying hes crazy mad but then they give him seven hundred billion exactly im going to fight so yes madman which is huge military budget a huge fire youve got paradis. And you know that really gives them every create a ration for their warlike ideology that is rooted in the u. S. Right now because if you draw a real mess that if there is a real war you know what they want to say the russians put human poet hes crazy and thats why youre there because you know actually its going to be one of the chorus if. You didnt. That there is no reason why they wouldnt say to bed to the media has been so cope with all of this they deem it use the word hysterical and this is actually the word that the western press this use this week they described hysterical violence rather than the hysterical propaganda they were putting out we saw in the washington post. Luisa lovelock and liz sly put out a piece saying we have never seen violence like this except for a few months ago when the us was bombing muscle and people who are you know you dont want anybody to think that over the Louisiana Police say the most lame where two hundred also two hundred civilians were supposedly killed in one day but were not worried about it when when the u. S. Does it robert fisk writing pointed out very well that we have such a lopsided view of whats going on in places like east ghouta because on one hand the journalist refused to acknowledge who is down there and hes going to is controlled by by four rebel groups as they continue which airholes. Which is an alqaeda jihad a Splinter Group jai you show islam the army of islam which are saudi backed jihadi and. Which are a previously u. S. Army. Free syrian army group given to weapons that are allied with alqaeda and robert fisk poi