Be so the group currently is said to operate out of albania. And a lot of these articles one of the things that i thought was interesting as. The reason you have to look at it in that it being propaganda is that they always are on the side of denouncing around the government. And also specifically pointed out which is odd to me that people didnt really look into this when theyre reading this authors work is saying that it should be replace the whole government sure replaced by by the emmy. And rajavi their their leaders so that should tell you something that this wasnt just im in a radio and i want my people to be free that theres a different if youre specifically pushing this kind of threat that this kind of organizational change within the government you have to look at whos whos saying it you know and then and thats the thing that really blew my mind and you know theres storm. This morning is assuming youre looking at a time like this is insane this many publications and all over and one and not unknown organizations a Big Organization like yourselves on the terror what do you think like because you and i have both been sniffing around the media by films for many a time now do you think this kind of manipulate were going to see more of this kind of like manipulation by governments and organizations seeking to influence Public Opinion because clearly thats what this guy was meant to do these articles are meant to do or you see more of it we see it all the time i mean weve seen it for. Anything that you say well but our say the United States has worse of america weve talked about on this show you theres a number of books well documented how they went and then had famous writers that you know and love writing anticommunist antisocialism propaganda for the paris review i mean you had artists writing propaganda for the u. S. Government not even 50 years ago the idea that oh we didnt. Even have to groups during the pale may come up but i think the us i think anybody in government of any country using a Forum Article as your source for government information is already failing to fail i mean look at look a new list of the list of the media organizations that featured this guys work. The hill the diplomat or daily caller american thinker page magazine a bunch of others would like references tweet. Big twitter following this guy always the same profile picture as well. Between forbes as one of the biggest offenders in fact between april 2017 and april 2018 a lot of the public 61 articles for the forbes website thats a lot of articles coming from apparently this group of 3 writers another spur. It was pretty incredible yeah. I think theres a lot to be said for just. Theres all of these Fact Checking machines on all of these great things making sure that were here at our day dont quote i made our own propaganda or lies or anything got to make sure and even if we do correctly report something thats going to freak people out and this got through for through the federalists the how the diplomat i mean were talking about a wide range of both right. I think for everyone on the wild right and of the spectrum youre going to find another one on the left and this is what happens when you have an echo chamber it really use it really is and the other culture in brooklyn has the problem because its like no one wants to work something new but if theres really well you know theres some dont want to agree with it if it fits their narrative yes or narrative. Well. Since 911 the patriot act in the creation of Homeland Security u. S. Citizens of it faced an ever increasing invasion of privacy in the name of security a great example of this invasion takes place at major airports all across the us of a since 2000 when air travelers have been poked prodded felt up and x. Rayed every time they seek to fly the friendly skies watchers and peers soon the days of the pat down will be coming to an end but before we all jump with joy and dash over to terminal 80 catch that evening flight to nova scotia theres a catch and this catch comes in the name of biometric boarding programs and facial recognition r t americas train travis has the story. There over a dozen airports here in the u. S. Using facial Recognition Technology and more are expected to follow this a part of the governments effort to try to get the 20 largest airports here in the west using the technology by 2021. Here basically be your next morning pass this after President Trump issued an executive order in 2000. 17 expediting the deployment of biometric verification of the identities of all travelers crossing u. S. Borders including u. S. Citizens and the top 20 u. S. Airports by 2021 now the department of Homeland Security rushing to get those systems up and running at airports across the country even though the technology is unproven and largely unregulated i think its a great idea because its going to save time and its not going to have to be fumbling for documents all the time they view the text last year scanning faces before passengers fly jet blue also followed suit and many more airlines are expected to sign up meanwhile the date is used to verify boarding passes before travelers get to their gate but its also passed on to customs and Border Protection to check passengers against their watch lists and also to crack down on those who overstay their visas says i think its a great idea itll save a lot of time and privacy i have no concerns at all many here full of the privacy and legal concerns and since its not customs and Border Protection collecting your facial recognition data directly its the airlines and they can pass it on to the government whats going on with the information thats being collected by these private companies that are working with this technology you know there was an issue in china where the records of 2500000 chinese citizens were compromised from a database that was storing this type of facial Recognition Software there have also been questions of the accuracy of the technology according to a Homeland Security watchdog the facial Recognition Systems used at airports only worked 85 percent of the time in some cases the a. C. L. U. The American Civil Liberties union noted did actually facial Recognition Software wound up getting 28 positives when they ran the pictures of members of congress now theres only about 435. 00 members of congress and they had 28. 00 false positives not so poor. Percentage and not only that this proportionately the false positives occurred with people of color although airlines say that they do not store passengers data it shared with federal agencies that are able to store it a spokesperson for the u. S. Customs and Border Protection said it retains biographic and set records for u. S. Citizens for 15 years and noncitizens for 75 years photos are only kept for 12 hours the agency told r. T. In a statement a c. B. P. Is committed to protecting the privacy of all travelers and has issued several privacy impact assessments related to entry exit employed strong technical security safeguards and has limited the amount of personally identifiable information used in the transaction now if you are traveling internationally you do have the option to opt out of using the facial Recognition Program however you may be asked to stand in a line thats a little bit slower and your documents will be scanned manually reporting in new york turn of the job as our take. And as we dont get to let us know what is the difficulty with Facebook Twitter and you tube im sure full shows that are dot com coming up we go to the historical monster to better understand what youre doing by adam seltzer author of the new book homes the truth history of the city stay true to watch the whole. You know to the 2017 the german newspaper different published an article claiming that the European Union the last 13000000000 euros as a result of its very anti russian sanctions. Particularly affected easter. Many polish fellow muslims broke and he committed suicide. Sometimes i cant account for as i was of on the get on with. The political rant on the. Reasons i left. Them to have to find out for the almost im going to. Have other kind of police think of this and then lets see in the oh im in the pool and this is just one song the smiths in a position. On the dumps with all the faults and thats wasnt. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy on sunday shouldnt let it be an arms race. Spearing Dramatic Development the only really im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. The legend goes in the shadows of the flickering electric like that glowed from the site of the 893. 00 world fair in chicago a monster looked Herman Webster much more famously known as dr Henry Howard Holmes is widely regarded as americas 1st serial killer who personally claimed to have murdered over 20 people though many claimed he took over 200 lives during the months of the worlds fair holmes was executed on may 7th 8 196. 00 for the murder. Its friend and business associate benjamin however that wasnt the end of the tale of h. H. Own it was just the beginning for the better part of the last 125 years tales of his hotel of horrors nicknamed the murder castle have persisted despite the fact that it was never really a hotel theres no evidence to support that hundreds of people were murdered by holmes in the hotel this is because many of the tales of h. H. Holmes are just that tales devoid of fact and often based on mere gossip exacerbated by decades of retelling the tales of age continued to induce nightmares intrigue psychologist and surprise the story ends as the true story of Herman Webster mudgett is actually a lot stranger and more interesting than the fiction so what is true here to help us better understand the world of victorian chicago that were allegedly the 1st killing fields of americas 1st serial killer a. J. Holmes is noted a. J. Charms historian tour guide speaker and the author of the book a. G. H. Homes the true history of the white city devil welcome so my welcome from the windy city of chicago adam selzer thank you so much for joining us adam there for having me once youve been featured on a number of documentaries including the history channels investigation into the 3 that a church arms was also jack the ripper you wont what is it about the story of holmes that captivates was so much over a century after the mans death. But really the legend is very intriguing heres this guy who supposedly had a Building Full of hidden rooms and torture chambers how do you not get interested in Something Like that but even at the time there was something about the guy that just captured peoples imaginations so that the just encourage people to let their imaginations run off screaming no he wrote and published a convex confession of sorts some of which is often misquoted because it was reprinted so many times. In one that i actually had to say it one of the things that i read. Through i noticed it seems that he almost guilt the reader for questioning if the police found all his victims and crimes he says to those inclined to think of us meaning there is all these other bodies that he had and said i will say that the the detectives have gone over my entire life hardly a day or an act has escaped their closest scrutiny and to judge that i am guilty of more than these cases which they have traced out is to cast discredit upon their work which do you think is more likely that he was a prolific serial killer at the cops just didnt catch everything or that he was a prolific a liar. He did kill a number of people yet it is miltie as even he claims to have a conversion he claimed to have killed 27 people quoted the were still alive at the time right. So what is it about chicago at that time that made that kind of because there is there is you know theres a story that he found a pharmacy and killed them both and took over but the 2 people who are alive kids also a little bit about how much of that mess reporting has happened over the years. Quite a lot of what happened is i think the newspapers in chicago did a very good job of tracing the whole story at the time and they got as caught up in the rumors as everybody else but they were fairly good at backtracking like when a guy showed up saying hey i used to buy dead bodies from this guy that cern into skeletons to sell to medical schools of course they reported on it would it turned out that this was a guy who would say whatever the police told him to if they poured enough whiskey down his throat they reported that too but a lot of out of town papers didnt really publish the follow ups you know its interesting because the when you look at the story of major age homes and i think you know historically it really is a story of chicago it happened right you know in that era when chicago became the boom town you had the worlds fair all those before his crimes became known there was a lot of fear mongering about crime in the city of chicago itself what was unique about chicago in the 809 news that you know truly made the tale of a cherry jones not only plausible but totally believable to the average person and why do you think he became this kind of great bogeyman of chicago. But part of it is no city had ever grown quite as quickly as chicago was growing in those days 50 years before we had a few 1000 People Living here now all of a sudden we had over a 1000000 it was growing faster than anybody could keep track of or that anybody could regulate also we did happen to have a mayor at the time who was known for of just kind of letting things happen in fact the very 1st day that the tribune wrote about holmes that all one of the other papers said if mayor carter as it is reelected every criminal murderer and thief in the world will converge on chicago. Well they werent wrong. We can also point out just the way the Police Worked at the time you know the guy who was in charge of investigating the Holmes Castle building at 3 months before had been a flower and feed dealer he had no experience as a cop no Legal Training nothing in forensics or criminology the new mayor just like the cut of his job you know its interesting too because ive entered your book you also talk about that building as well as as you know at the time of the you mention that it wasnt really the murder castle but its kind of being hyped out of them you know i see every documentary about archer jones was murdered cassie built this thing to trap people or what are what are some of the control conflicting theories about what exactly this place was actually used for. But theres all kinds of stories about it being built specifically to murder people with everything you could possibly need to kill the person that kind of came out of a tight with the police were going through there and saying oh we found a real people have been hanging people we felt a bench maybe this was a dissection table really imagine if you walked or rode anybodys house you could find a lot of ways to kill people just with the things you find at home but he did have a couple of rooms that were ball papered over so he could hide stolen furniture in there a couple hidden staircases so there was a lot to excite peoples imaginations in this place but really it had been retail of the 1st floor apartments on the 2nd floor that he had of the 3rd story that was supposed to be a hotel there really it was just something to swindle insurers and investors who did not want that omega is one of the things thats interesting is there is the supposedly best hotel and the hotel is really maybe long term rentals hartmans but its not really are it is a hotel or its an affront death. No you know there was a he was he did say that he was going to add a 3rd floor that was going to be an actual hotel space during the fair but it was never finished or open for business he used it as an excuse to buy up all sorts of supplies like furniture bedding flooring anything that people would give him on credit that he could sell for cash and then of course he took out 5 or 6 inserts policies on it and strangely enough it caught fire and thats i can imagine that you know out of things to fire them have sometimes cerns and im going to do is go out is were not fooled for one second somewhere i mean he seemed to be a prolific Insurance Fraud you know and certainly it was a swindler 1st and foremost a from what i was able to fire and there were at least 60 lawsuits against him going in chicago wow that takes some real skill is what i could find to do if he was usually putting somebody elses name on top of the paperwork so i had to look under like his mother in laws name and his friends names and his lawyers names and his Company Names of his various aliases theres probably plenty more in the legal archives that i just didnt find. So obviously one of the things thats come up recently is the idea that ha its how this was all jack the ripper. What do you say about what did you find about some of because there is a lot of there is no hard evidence proving me as however there is some interesting evidence that says he could ever. How do you feel about. Stabbing random people wasnt really old style to begin with the seems to have favored ploys and in for killing people it was always people that he knew got plenty of paperwork that suggests that he was almost certainly in chicago during the time of the ripper murders he registered to vote while he was in chicago his father said that he visited New Hampshire and late october of 888. 00 so odds are id say he was around the United States anyway i want to ask too is that you know in chicago is do you still feel the legacy of holmes and and that world fair on the importance about a period of time in chicago today like what is now you have people come and make a documentary about this guy and all that how does chicago