Terminal so its just a call its just a question of people getting used to it and then we shouldnt forget that. The 1st couple of 1000000 users especially in the United States are not going to be. Individuals the 1st couple of 1000000 users are going to be fleets fed ex. U. P. S. And the u. S. Postal service is going to happen to all those trying drivers are they going to be out of business well you know what happens in every Industrial Revolution has people are displaced from one area and over time they have to find jobs in another area but yes i think anybody who makes their living as a Delivery Driver or a garbage truck driver or a bus driver or a taxi driver is. In a couple of decades is going to have to find Something ElseSomething Else to do i regret it myself i mean im a passionate driver i used to participate in automobile races i like Nothing Better than High Performance cars. I like to think im a better driver than most people so will i miss it well yes i will know it wont because ill be dead by that time but also i think. Were going to talk a lot about the psychological aspect and cultural aspect as well before we get to that i do a lot of stuff about cyber crime and i know how easy it is to actually still something online so you know considering that this car we completely automated and you know why or to the old line industry its going to be so much easier to steal it now i mean you just have to hack into into our way you dont even have to break the glass or the wire well. These vehicles will have to be very much hard to know what chronic standpoint to avoid hacking into them and disrupting the system and of course thats the problem of malware or malfeasance or people abusing the system. Really exists in. Anything we do in may know its like we do electronic banking and then you say well we cant of electronic banking because somebody could hack into your account and steal your money well yes they could but and in some cases that happens but we still believe in electronic banking and just because there is some risk of. Electronic interference doesnt mean that we shouldnt enjoy the benefits of the technology so also thinking how do you sell that to americans because americans are fiercely independent they hate any kind of government intrusion or control over them some is there a car that can be stopped. Automatically for and you know youre stopped for tax evasion or a car that ultimately drives you and decide where to go i mean how do you how does that sit with the concept of americans being free and super individualistic well if that is that is a problem and you do give up certain freedoms you give up the freedom of. Being able to vote to violate the speed limit. Traffic is so regulated. You know which lanes here are supposed to be you know where youre supposed to go no you have to stop at stop signs you have to not go over a certain speed so i mean human traffic human driven traffic is very tightly regulated today and you say well. Probably when they put the speed limits in 50 or 80 years ago people said this is outrageous i dont want to be told i can only do 80 kilometers an hour i want to be able to do a 130 kilometers an hour but people get used to these things and at some point its not going to be. Its not going to be a matter of choice but because its some point when say a City Government or a State Government or even the National Government figures out that the remaining 30 percent of human driven vehicles are causing 95 percent of the accidents what the government does is says ok thats it you have 5 years to dispose of your car and start using Autonomous Vehicles like everybody else but at the end of 5 years we were going to take your vehicle off the road and thats you know its not popular but unlike if you try to think guns away from americans youre going to have a revolution because that violates the 2nd amendment of the constitution were going to have much less that. Please if you try to take guns away youre going to have a revolution but if but for the ability to drive a car theres no constitutional amendment that says you have a god given right to drive your own car. And youre not really taking anything away because the actual mobility will be improved the ability to go from point to point quickly will be improved and the the time that you have available for your personal use will increase because when you leave work to go home you get into the autonomous module and you can do anything you want you know you could pull the curtains and go to sleep or you could have the you have your 1st drink of the evening no worry about being pulled on one for it and the the thing is you see thats thats an excellent point. When we think about how unreliable human beings are we would not get in. To a taxi or a plus because human beings go to sleep they drink they have moments of in attention. We text on the phone while driving and so forth and these are 0 practices that lead to a lot of accidents we still dont know how reliable robots are either because thats still a big question i mean maybe statistically youre saying in the future were going to have a ratio where robots make less mistakes in humans but we still dont have that we do when we do the latest technology of Autonomous Vehicles as developed by way more which is a division of google or. General motors with using Cruise Automation which is a a west coast startup the General Motors part. The vehicles have. Only of thomas test fleets in the United States they have to report the number of resets per month reset means that there was a failure and you had to reset the car. General motors and. 0 resets per month these things just work work work work and never have a problem were going to take a short break right now when were back well continue talking about how our lives will change with driving cars on our roads taking over the manual cars talking to General Motors robert lets stay with us. The entire proposition financialization new because without a base science of value to value time you have no basis to value this financial ais post industrial economy whatsoever its all basically a guessing game. 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Were back with axiom of General Motors robert lets bob do you feel like americans will eventually completely forget how to drive i think we know that 30 or 40 years we will have a situation where little grandchildren or little children ask their great grandparents. Is it true that all these cars used to have people driving them and great grand. Thats what we used to do that kind of scan. And. Then the kid says but is a true that youd have 2 lane roads where one car would go this way at 100 kilometers an hour and another car would go this way in a 100 kilometers an hour. On the ground great grandfather would say thats what we did. The kids would say well didnt you didnt you sometimes hit each other. Sometimes up and kids will shake their heads and say i dont know how you people did that so why not leave that option to the humans of actually also be able to drive if they want for instance you know i mean they are a nation of flying its also happening but in a very different way with automated car drives your seats total control to you at this point i dont know whats going to be like 15 years. With planes its like a commented piloting row in lets you drive but doesnt let you do anything stupid why not go down that road when it comes to me because you wont get the efficiency the efficiency and. D. Congesting the citys improving the throughput on the flow of transportation on any given road the minute you start blending human driven cars in with the robotic cars you lose the efficiency because then all the robotic cars are slowed down by the poor human reactions and the poor driving habits of the human being compared to a. Compared to a robotic car ill give you an example if you stand at a traffic light and you are number 6 or number 7 down in the traffic light goes from red to green you can count to 3 before the 1st person oh you know and starts to move then its another. 123 before the 2nd person goes so after 10 cars youve got 30 seconds which is most of the light so if your number 10 in a line of cars waiting for the light to change probably youre not going to get through it because everybody has wasted 3 seconds waking up whereas with. A line of Autonomous Cars when that signal changes because these Autonomous Cars are all connected electronically when the light changes were actually wont need a light with it can be an invisible signal. All 10 or all 15 cars will move at once and theyll move smoothly and with minimum minimum front to careers separation so. Blending human driven with autonomous is going to be a necessary thing in a transitional phase but its not efficient and that but they wont i want to drive i want to and. Its going to be just like the horse today horses are no longer seen on the city streets of moscow or anywhere else. Because theyre not an efficient form of transportation they slow everything down. And frankly theyre you know theyre hazardous center in and around automobiles but you can still if you if youre a horse fan you can still enjoy your horse you can enjoy it in the western United States and there are probably ranches in russia someplace where you can go right across the steps of what you want and there are horsepower urns riding stables are going to have car bars on the way and you will drive around whatever man youll come to where its starting in the states already there you have these automotive country clubs that are springing up around the big cities where the i would agree the well to do people can keep their cars at that country club where they have government is cars in the future are going to be a luxury for people that are well off right and they will be collectors items and be like owning a horse today so what about the psychological concept i mean weve touched upon it earlier and he said well i myself love driving beautiful cars but also i feel like. Driving a car is such an intense part of American Culture of becoming an adult like getting your driving license i mean driving coast to coast 6 to 6 i mean the whole concept of im going to take a drive to clear my head this is a very american thing because we like here in rush hour in europe when you go for a walk i mean how can that go away so quickly well it is actually already going away in the what we call the millennial see you know their kids that were born after after 2000 other ones who live in social media once really mean theyre much more interested in their phones and content content and. Video phoning each other and so forth. That is whats consuming their lives now as Electronic Technology in the form of handheld. Vices and you say and many of them are not that eager to learn to drive because theyve been driven around by mom all the time. And thats another. New freedom that people dont think about so much is the freedom to not have to drive your kids around all the time anymore in that youll be able to send your small children to certain preprogramed known addresses you know like well known houses of friends or kindergarten or whatever to where the kids can take an Autonomous Vehicle to go to these priests prespecified places. Old people who can no longer drive or who are partly blind or Something Like that will be able to safely navigate. Sloan in one sense it takes away the freedom of holding a steering wheel. But also replace is that with the freedom of being able to go anywhere anytime whether youre healthy you or not whether you can see or not whether youre asleep or not. Whether you want to work on the way or it doesnt matter you just get into that mode you and it safely takes you where you want to go and lets thats a form of freedom the whole concept of turning this self driving cars into model us is that they wont be oh right its going to be like sort of like your personal train compartments not going to be you know theyre all going to look at the same they going to all drive at the same you know the and then the american car industry is also based on individual expression i mean. All those cars that we see advertised on t. V. Theyre alternately saying that if you drive me youre better than you know the person next to you is what we call a habit and you dont. Like let the south driving cars also be different from each other looks wise or well ordered or compartmentalise why take away that it will be challenged but whats the utility of if only these modules belong to fleets of belong to individuals whats the value in having a. B. M. W. Or mercedes the public doesnt care because the public is going to only thinks these things will be on by the large transfer flourishing and anybody is thats going to go out of business is ultimately stupid or maybe they will focus on you know luxury is here we are afford this models instead of the end but people arent cannot only these things so if they dont own them why boner. And so. Outside this inside the cities there will be no private ownership of you because the cities do not want these things cluttering up the city the average automobile spends less than 10 percent of its time actually going someplace the rest of the time its sitting around waiting for people to use it and thats the beauty of autonomous modules theyll be in use all the time. So but out in the country you know in the suburbs b. S. Its quite possible that people will still be able to own a car and they might be a van type. And they might have all their vacation stuff and you know tennis rackets and water skis and everything so that they can always you know basements but the problem is once them once they decide to use it its going to have to be entered into the computer controlled transportation flow they have the dad cannot sit behind the wheel and decide with what theyre going to have to do theyre going to have to program in their destination and then applied to enter into the traffic flow and thats literally take a couple of minutes and then theyll be entered into the traffic flow now one of the reasons why the city to city modules have to pretty much all be the same is because youre going to have on the big motorways. Or freeway its as it was with a column some places in the states. Will probably have. Inductive electric cables. Which. Charge the batteries of the modules while theyre on the freeway and. So these will be these cables will be embedded in the concrete maybe 56. 00 centimeters below the surface and on top the mundials will have minimal separation between each other you know maybe 2530. 00 centimeters max and they have to be like sausage wheels because when theyre all together in a train they have to look like a big long snake and if if you take a train and you do this. With with that with the Railroad Cars you have a lot of air resistance which is why Railroad Cars are all long tubes and then they stop and then theres another want to because theres a minimal air resistance so on oh only models will join into this train and the train will probably go at like 300 kilometers an hour. And when you get close to your exit. Your module will automatically separate out of the train and it will go into the cellar ration lanes the gap that your module left will be filled so that in a few seconds you known them it will be closed up again then your module goes under a reader where you will be charged for the number of kilometers that you spent on the on the motorway and then you proceed to your own from a destination but and so for urban use. Will. Retain their mix play no role in urban use like 60 kilometers an hour or less. Resistance isnt that big a thing but on the freeway it will be important for all of these modules to be basically shaped like like a big cylinder and they want to tell you my help i was always. Told not to do it it was 67 years later when i was time this evolution is complete youll probably be at the point where youll be cleared to sit back in a module and go someplace without having to do anything lets see what happens thanks a lot for this fascinating interview. I dont like it either but its going to happen because it has to do all right lets just have to go along with it thanks a lot and i think youre quite welcome. You know world of big partisan movies law and conspiracy its time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that made history media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door. And shouting past each other its taught