A gradual pattern in dealing with the europeans so at the 1st because youre wrong from the very beginning. Its commitment to the nuclear deal you try to save its with the remaining parties but after being disappointed from from the european sides its try to you know actually change its approach in order to get them on board so you can see thats your own is still hopeful to save the deal based on the current there is remains remains in just disappear way but i mean. What hope is there left especially after the europeans very suddenly change their position on. The recent saudi attacks and blame the iran for those attacks where i mean in diplomatic terms it was clear that it was not only about the saudi air attacks but it was also i think about that track they had rainy and track and that commitments to say dont you think so. Actually. I think the european assessment of course it was seen in iran as a kind of negative which was a kind of negative move you know whats on the other hand it isnt. You know name iran as as being conducted the attacks it said that they said it was responsible and that responsibility one of. Chancellor make of try to somehow modify the position im not going into details of that im saying thats. At the Current Situation maybe irans thats hope i was talking about is that maybe the europeans based on the for example the recent initiatives varies by the model of micron of france maybe they can do something to you know americans to the negotiating table indeed mutually accept a terror i mean. Im sure stroker that is siding american position jast with their parents. In terms of trying to lure in the americans to the negotiating table the mistrust between iran and the european sides. Droving got the moments lets hope i was talking about is that i mean from the arena on site is that maybe the europeans can come and can convince the United States to lift the sanctions to do something for diplomacy to gets back to the threat you know i think iran has been trying to achieve i mean it has defined a kind of 2 fold approach in this regard. Why did reduction of the comments means either do europeans would be you know somehow feeling to do something against the United States and save the nuclear deal why some measures like in states or Something Like that or at the end of the day there will be new negotiations between all the sides again including the United States so iran would need some kind of load as industry guard. Is it fair to say that both of these tracks have failed. I mean from the european site its been mostly restricted to do you know expressing Political Support and also from the american side im sure that you have seen the reports of whats happened to you new Un General Assembly recently your arms only condition was that the United States should remove the sanctions and then talks would be possible what the United States refused to do so and for iran you know its not about just the governments its about also the Public Opinion and there is a deep and increasing mistrust toward the United States because of israel from zeus if you are so there was a real concern that if iran goes through the negotiation new negotiations with the United States and then the United States again refuses to lift the sanctions large the same they did to north korea everything would be even worse than the disease so yes from one point of view we can see that those initiatives have failed by i can see the signs of new initiative in place i mean starting to diplomacy extract from inside the region talking about the recent signs of you know reeling this for target between for talks between iran and saudi arabia expressed fiberboard to both sides President Trump and his secretary of state mike dante are awesome can you talk about toughness as the main feature of their Foreign Policy especially the 78 iran why do you think they left those attacks on that on the facilities that acts that they blame squarely on iran without any. Response that would demonstrate that toughness and all about the sanctions against the central bank but that i think you would agree that compared to the magnitude of the charge that there are actually took out those facilities and this is minuscule why do you think they. I have not responded in a tough way. I think there are several reasons 1st of all because there hasnt been a concrete sign that it was you know on behind that thinks its easy to say thats life again. Was experienced why do you its easy to say that you dont was responsible because you also force the. Movements its easy to say this and the United States has had you know experience of iraq war and i dont think that its a situation that the United States wanted to do something militarily. We would have been able to gain some support from from its main allies this is this is one reason the other isnt i can say is that president president romps general on willingness to gets into the sister of ours in the United States is especially in just one year remaining to the new u. S. Elections and finally i think more importantly is the transporter of the Islamic Republic during an officer as has publicly said that no kind of you know military move against iran would be remains unanswered and the answer would involve not only ring on borders with also the whole region so this makes the United States and not only the United States also the other actors that would thats maybe may want to you know raise of all military action against iran saying to us now while the americans didnt respond militarily bacon teenie of tightening the screws on the iranian economy and i know that you wrote recently that to me to gave that pressure iran has been trying to cultivate trade with its neighbors particularly in the dollar denominated trade but i soon learned that even trading in local currency is require some tacit and eric and approval of small countries like. Bridge and like crimea really a 4th trait of iraq without facing some sort of rebuke from washington of course there has been this fear from the side of the arena neighbors. Actually the policy of. Missiles that uses neighbors 1st started to be devised from before the u. S. Withdrawal from the nuclear deal i can see thats the main parts of dispose he is not i mean its not restricted only to ukrainian neighbors its aimed at the nonwestern great power is like russia and china iran sees a kind of reeling this to do something you dependency from due north to the states for example the reports about china you know still continuing to buy uranium oil and also. You know trying to define new ways of interacting example integrate the iran more closely into the eurasian that you know all the you know any exact do you think that are going to. Have project for russia clearly but. You know there are many criticisms about how effective that they cannot make it has been do you think its it has enough to protect iran from the american pressure at the core a situation it doesnt have thats thats kind of influence or thats kind of leverage but you know the more the United States uses sanctions as a Political Tool and the more countries are being sanctioned by the United States the very you know importance of sanctions as a tool. Being you know decreased for example both iran and russia are in a kind of. You know toughening us sanctions at this situation i. Can see thats the political willingness to do something that. This is in place and practical steps started to be taken by the science of course its a gradual and maybe its a matter of decades or so now its not so simple that iran has enough time and enough for a reserve. Time. Help you along gaining more and more Political Support to say that you know. It would be useful to compare the Current Situation for example the decision before designing of the nuclear deal when there was a general consensus among the europeans and americans in sanctioning iran on the one hand. There were you know the Un Security Council resolutions against iran and also at that time russia and china. Are totally. Same page with the United States but currently china is a kind of economic war with the United States russia is experiencing one of its worst periods of relations with the United States so everything is different thats Political Support with at least currency some kinds of stability to the fore for the Current Situation so that you dont can build on that and continue to. Translate it into more countries measures in terms of economic benefits ok mr as you may have to take a short break now well be back in just a few moments. The brain does not work. In the way. The brain damage or the way the cover. Of the brain. Integrated descent deliver goods. You can download some go to the brain you can kill the patient goes by damaging you want to leave to the brains. Of those connections to mahmoud alaska and ask for the last open end scene and some interest for the rights for who should. Sue. Birds who just shoot on disk in the. Asian community. Teach it. No new car so sit on the open much to the mama its just that our. Welcome back to worlds apart spread some of that is as easy as system professor for a general study at shea he had bashed a university in town that there is a day before the break. You mentioned that there are countries that are still willing to defy that pressure and i think china would be one of them and there have been reports that chinese all time. For example are switching off their transponders and changing the names to avoid being detected but the americans out also stepping up. Efforts squeeze irans ability to export its oil. The latest news is that there are already 5 countries that have joined the American Initiative for the patrols of the persian gulf do you think it may actually resolve in iran being physically blocked in fact located it from being able to access the maritime route for exporting its noise i dont think so because. Except for the United States use of the other countries do not have this kind of you know physical leverage and real liberals to do something in this regard. Except for saudi arabia and its. Also joined the coalition and reach not so you know. There are. 2 concern youre wrong the others. Explicitly said that there is not to. Support and of confrontation with iran and its just about securing the american roots as i am talking about like 555 starting patrols in november and you can say all you want to politics but. Iran has already had issues with one of its vassals being detained are you absolutely confident. Irans ability to operate on the sea and particularly in the persian gulf war of will not be compromised by this Initiative Iran from the very beginning has shown a negative response to this to see the facts why because iran has been. Opposing the persons of foreign powers for sure do us some progress in the persian. This is one issue the other issue is that the iranian officials especially the military ones have made it very clear that its curious of any kind of you know provocative move from the United States or the others there could be a war in the region and iran has shown that it has the ability to do something by downing to us strong so im not saying thats go to war and stay safe im not saying this but im saying thats. The other part is no thats theres a cost and theres a huge cost for entering all confrontation be drawn so i think thats the main nature actually diverting nature of the recent u. S. Initiative for the persian gulf is mostly political now for decades the fret to blow the strait of hormuz has been iran. If a response to any american pressure im not trying to take any sides here but dont you think that the iranians themselves are responsible for giving the Trump Administration this idea how to hurt the most. Of your rights and place thats kind of warning or do other countries about its. Potential closer of the straits well its interesting we havent hear that. Passover wants so. But on the other hand you dont have shown as i said as i mentioned iran has more serious and why it will have more immediate options to respond to do you know for example how can the iran of the and if there is indeed a more serious i think the americans have the larger the successful in substantially decreasing the rainy and oil trade i mean if you look at the latest figures i think in july the export of oil was around 100000. They base is very very small compared to like 2 and a 1000000000 Barrels Per Day back in 2018 so the damage is already done you know of course of course but 1st of all. Thats not the official statistics that these are just speculations of course its decreased to a great extent but on the other hand lets go back to the previous points about so youre on trying to expand relations with the other countries with visits neighbors you know and im talking especially well there have been some discussions of. Helping iran to sell its orders on the other you know issues like that so iran is west country we have. The north we have the other options so its not about of course. Any kind of you know kind of block you go Something Like that in the persian gulf would you seriously dont even more than before but it wouldnt mean that iran would be you know in a situation of lacking in a kind of other options you mentioned before that iran has intensified its. Outreach after its ministers that if keeps talking about. Pacts with its neighbors including saudi arabia do you take that as. As an act of diplomacy and effort to preside itself as that responsible International Player or is it indeed a viable Security Solution is what it will because its been in place for several years its not the 1st time that iran is trying to reach out to saudi arabia on the other countries 1st year andres the initiative of you know regional regional dialogue and. Its. Raised the idea of nonaggression pact based on observations but studies on the Foreign Policy and. Based on living inside the country i can say that the idea of collective security in diversion growth is Something Real for iran but it is the regional situation that you know leads iran to do balancing acts i mean mr is a historic history knows many are not many but the number of nonaggression pact that resulted in their actually in the war or world war i mean even if. Iran and saudi arabia signed this document candy to really trust one and not there or it would be more like and then the aggression that joe many in the soviet union signed 18 years ago that the Current Situation of total lack of trust between the 2 countries and the situation thats broke out at any moments. The 2 sides you know lose from signing of such and such a document if at least it helps them to. Lose faith face and they will lose their ability to. Have that friends i think have already lost face by you know being targeted as. The human is and by not being able to you know raise your kind of Successful Operation against against them so they have said this would help them it would help them you know because iran has many times iran has many times theyre clear that. Doesnt support human news militarily because its simply impossible but it supports them politically if such a kind of the aggression parents signed between the 2 sides iran can help. You know the help so i would use and human use to negotiate a kind of compromise or peace deal or Something Like that so it would be results in preserving for years for do so does not using force of the now the current u. S. Policy at least according to the your special representative for iran is not to make a distinction between the iranian government and the actors that it supports with Legal Assistance training funding even diplomatic support and i think its pretty much the same for saudi arabia do you think irans allies whether it is in yemen of whether it is in lebanon in syria and we are talking about nonstate actors here do you think they. Have to be covered by this nonaggression pact. Iran had started to encourage the human years to come to a compromise and you saw the results in this socalled peace deal between the 2 sides it was the saudis who produced the you know ceasefire and it was a good sign i mean you dont try to show a good sign to do to the other side and these talks about the necessity of regional negotiations between iran and the west its not something new its been in place regional dialect recently iran and the european parties those more leverage on the human issue was in place before the recent wave that was collusions in the region so iran does have the leverage and it can do something on this and its to my understanding this would be part of the deal because without thats of course it would be meaningless and of course for iran there are some conditions from saudi arabia because mama. So drawn prince said explicitly 2 years ago that its wants to bring interest so it would at least help alleviate those kinds of concerns and mutual interests mitchell sense of tourists from all sorts well my impression is that theyre saudis are not impressed by this offer because in his latest interview the Saudi Foreign minister im sure there once again reiterated this all saudi and i think now is israeli tro