Calling on some to put sanctions on turkey now that you know ticking there is a friend and ally turkey now that you know ticking there is a friend and ally is the lawmakers in washington trying to put some distance now between the u. S. And turkey. The lawmakers in washington trying to put some distance now between the u. S. And turkey. They are but theres again theres theres theres a method to their madness they are but theres again theres theres theres a method to their madness here and they talk about isis isis them the genocide of the kurds and all these things its quite clear and they talk about isis isis them the genocide of the kurds and all these things its quite clear what they dont want to see is President Trump actually complete american player what they dont want to see is President Trump actually complete an american role from syria which by the way is totally totally illegal under both International Role from syria which by the way is totally totally illegal under both international and american domestic law because this would allow pretty russia an american domestic law because this would allow pretty russia syria and iran to cooperate on putting an end to this war in Eastern Syria syria and iran to cooperate on putting an end to this war in Eastern Syria bringing the kurds back under Syrian Government control and starting to wrap up this area bringing the kurds back under Syrian Government control and starting to wrap up this war and thats the last thing they want they want to American Forces to stay there we have to guard the old war and thats the last thing they want they want to American Forces to stay there we have to guard the oil and so forth which we dont we never say from whom and and as as a show shanks i actually still still believe in them in their opinion a political game where we have to keep pressure on the Syrian Government block the russian in a political game where we have to keep pressure on the Syrian Government block the russians and the iranians jim good to get your thoughts on this former u. 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And welcome to cross talk were all. Hello and welcome to cross talk were all things are considered times Peter Lavelle all across the middle east and beyond there are large scale protests and things are considered times Peter Lavelle all across the middle east and beyond there are large scale protests and growing political instability in many countries the old ways of doing business with only growing political instability in many countries the old ways of doing business with only in rich privileged elite while the prospects for the many are few and far in between rich privileged elite while the process. Stakes for the many are few and far in between the elites have answers for todays growing problems. For the elites have answers for todays growing problem. Rostock in global instability im joined by my guest. Was talking global instability im joined by my guest james jackets and watch and hes a former u. S. Diplomat and former advisor to the u. S. Senate republicans jaharis and watch and hes a former u. S. Diplomat and former advisor to the Us Senate Republican leadership in plymouth we have he is the executive editor of the news website look in leadership in plymouth we have he is the executive editor of the news website 21st century wired dot com and in norman we cross to Joshua Landis he is the 21st century wired dot com and in norman we cross to Joshua Landis he is director of the center of middle east studies at the university of oklahoma all right gentlemen crossed director of the center of middle east studies at the university of oklahoma all right gentlemen cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate joshua let me go to you 1st in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate joshua let me go to you 1st in norman all across the globe we have iraq we have we have lebanon we have in norman all across the globe we have iraq we have we have lebanon we have chile we have many other places around the world plus we have the whole division of chile we have many other places around the world plus we have the whole division over brags that in the u. K. We have the division in the United States theres a lot of over brags that in the u. K. We have the division in the United States theres a lot of instability out there but i want to talk about the specific country of lebanon just to start off here along stability out there but i want to talk about the specific. Country of lebanon just to start it off here a lot of people say that it is the bellwether for the region what happens there fatah people say that it is the bellwether for the region what happens there 1st is an indication of what possibly and probably will happen in a number of other countries 1st is an indication of what possibly and probably will happen in a number of other countries in the region how do you reflect upon that go ahead joshua well i think youre right left in the region how do you reflect upon that go ahead joshua. Well i think youre right lebanon is one of the is the 3rd most indebted country in the world riad salame a going on as one of the is the 3rd most indebted country in the world riad salame a the head of the central bank said that the country will crash economically if these protests are the head of the central bank said it the country will crash economically if these protests go on much longer but the protests are in many ways i think reflects go on much longer but the protests are in many ways i think a reflection of tremendous change in the world a an income gap that is yawning but i mean rich and poor and we can see that from a corruption of tremendous change in the world a an income gap that is yawning but i mean rich and poor and we can see that from across the world you know europe is the most equal part of the world and 3rd process the world you know europe is the most equal part of the world at 30 percent of wealth is held by the top 10 percent but the middle east the percent of wealth is held by the top 10 percent but the middle east is the worst its 61 percent of all wealth is held by the top 10 percent is the worst its 61 percent of all wealth is held by the top 10 percent now russia and america are hovering in the middle but percentage now russia and america are hovering in the middle but but its that you know the world is becoming more and more unequal and but its that you know the world is becoming more and more unequal and i think in places where you have bad governments like lebanon iraq egypt i think in places where you have bad governments like lebanon iraq egypt syria youre seeing this kind of explosion of syria youre seeing this kind of explode. Of real you know theres not enough jobs there is bad Government People are robbing at the top and real you know theres not enough jobs there is bad Government People are robbing at the top and the public feels like theyre getting a very bad deal and theyre up in arms and the public feels like theyre getting a very bad deal and theyre up in arms you know patrick and i did everything that joshua just said there but we have these rules you know patrick and i did everything that joshua to said there but we have these ruling elites as i said in my introduction you know still doing business as usual the old ways here elites as i said in my introduction you know still doing business as usual the old ways here and this is a real wake up call and one more thing we look at the disparity in income we can look and this is a real wake up call and one more thing we look at the disparity in income we can look at the usefulness of a lot of these countries a lot of people. Under age at the usefulness of a lot of these countries a lot of people. Under 18 and what prospects do they have here but my issue is with governance here team and what prospects do they have here but my issue is with governance here whats it going to take because as joshua pointed out here this is this can explode it is whats it going to take because as joshua pointed out here this is this can explode it is exploding go ahead patrick you know this is a very difficult topic to kind of sick splode and go ahead patrick. You know this is a very difficult topic to kind of get your head around because theres so many uprisings or political much political and get your head around because theres so many uprisings or political much political unrest happening simultaneously and i think theres a tendency by the media by political unrest happening simultaneously and i think theres a tendency by the media by political commentators by economists and political economist to try to commentators by economists and political economist to try to find some generalized terms to sort of describe whats like a global phenomena and some generalized terms to sort of describe what its like a global phenomenon i think that was a mistake that the west made with the arab spring by putting it all meant on i think that was a mistake that the west made with the arab spring by putting it all into one kind of soup and i think the reality is you have you have different into one kind of soup and i think the reality is you have you have different aspects and different characteristics with each of these there are common aspects and different characteristics with each of these there are commonalities however if you want to talk about overarching frameworks for and ality is however if you want to talk about overarching frameworks for analyzing this youve got post colonial identity issues youve got post colonial border mobilizing this youve got post colonial identity issues youve got post colonial border mapmaking issues that are still plaguing places like the middle east all the way back from making issues that are still plaguing places like the middle east all the way back from the old war one youve got neo liberal policies elian of neo liberal palm world war one youve got neo liberal policies elian of neo liberal policies you have u. S. Meddling which would go under the banner of imperial seas you have u. S. Meddling. Which would go under the banner of imperialism you could say u. S. Foreign policy this is also a big big issue you could say u. S. Foreign policy this is also a big big issue how that effects and how it has affected a lot of these countries in regions and you also have how that effects and how it has affected a lot of these countries in regions and you also have the failure of soviet era collectivist social economic failure of soviet era collectivist social economic structures and dependency issues and also dependency issue structures and dependency issues and also dependency issues with all of these countries economically i mean you look at a country like lebanon they have use with all of these countries economically i mean you look at a country like lebanon they have absolutely nothing that they produce they import everything their economic absolutely nothing that they produce they import everything they are economically completely dependent on things like foreign aid and in ngo sector akali completely dependent on things like foreign aid and an ngo sector economy that sort of drives the middle class in that country thats just one example of that sort of drives the middle class in that country thats just one example so its it is very difficult i think hong kong is also has been missed care of so its it is very difficult i think hong kong is also has been mischaracterized by the press because its it wasnt just up pricked arised by the press because it wasnt just an uprising. This is just how do. You do this it would had something to do with a change a change isnt just because one is going to have an imported revolution this is indicative of the into individual and ported revolution this is in. It could have of the into individualized young middle class Global Citizen yeah that exists. Young middle class Global Citizen yeah that exists virtually their identity from social media and i think that also drives a change virtually their identity from social media and i think that also drives change drives it but they dont know where to go with this change well the political organizing isnt there the drives it but they dont know where to go with this change well the political organizing isnt there the ideas arent there to go anywhere with it you know where you patrick you just did a ph d. On t. V. Ideas arent there to go anywhere with it you know what you patrick you just did a ph d. On t. V. In about 3 minutes thing to me let me go to james now you know i get anything about 3 minutes its amazing to me let me go to james now you know i guess you know that this has a lot to do with expectations and i think that you know patrick was hit the nail on the head that this has a lot to do with expectations and i think that you know patrick was hit the nail on the head there and be people being so interconnected is well here we had there and be people being so interconnected is well here but you know what what we have here is we we have global elites that are not deliberate you know what what we have here is we we have global elites that are not delivering theyre doing quite well and they dont have any solutions here and at the same thing theyre doing quite well and they dont have any solutions here and at the same time you have a lot of people protesting it in more than protesting out of the fact that they dont have a lot of people protesting it in more than protesting out of the fact that they dont see that they have a future here and that is a toxic mixture go ahead james dont see that they have a future here and that is a toxic mixture go ahead james it is that i think those are the maybe some of the factors we see in common with these things and then thats what it is that i think those are the maybe some of the factors. We see in common with these things and then as we all know that there are disparate causes like in chile its transportation prices in lebanon we all know that there are disparate causes like in chile its transportation prices in lebanon it was communications and cell phones and whatsapp and things like that i cant it was communications and cell phones and whatsapp and things like that i cant help but wonder though peter that what what more is there that meets the help but wonder though peter that what what more is there that meets the eye i always wonder why for example some protests in some countries get very famous always wonder why for example some protests in some countries get very favorable treatment from the global media which sarah shares the same neo liberal verbal treatment from the global media which sarah shares the same neo liberal ideology is what these people are supposedly protesting against in many cases and other ideology is what these people are supposedly protesting against in many cases and other cases they dont get such good press for example ive noticed in all of this very case is they dont get such good press for example ive noticed in all of this very few people mention sort of the the granddaddy of all this in the last year or so which is the yellow very few people mentioned sort of the the granddaddy of all this in the last year or so which is the yellow vests in france which i think very much were a working class phenomenon against the vests in france which i think very much were a working class phenomenon against the very things were describing but theyre bad you see because theyre there or theyre there or theyre not really or things were describing but theyre bad you see because theyre there or theyre there theyre not really theyre the bad kind of populist as they pose to whats wrong kong thats going to go on the populist either the bad kind of populist as they pose to what the long kong thats going to go on the populace the kids in hong kong are good ok that in the in the yellow vests or are disco yeah exactly kids in hong kong are good ok that in the in the yes. Yes or are exactly there to pay for it we should say about spain they have. Thats right in there to pay for it we should say about spain they have. Thats right and if the catalogs are protesting with thats good but if spaniards who want spain and if the catalogs are protesting with that is good but if spaniards who want spain to Stay Together are protesting well thats bad so i think theres i cant help but to Stay Together protesting well thats bad so i think theres i cant help but suspect that theres a theres a thumb on the scale and terms of our perception of that but suspect that theres a theres a thumb on the scale and terms of our perceptions i keep waiting for a levee to tell us which ones are the Good Management which opens out i keep waiting for a levy to tell us which ones are the good times in which the bad ones. But he can keep his mouth shut as far as im concerned judge bad ones. But he can keep his mouth shut as far as im concerned joshua you know. Patrick marty mentioned. Us and you know. Patrick marty mentioned. U. S. Involvement particularly in the middle east here where you know constantly putting pressure on the lebanese government particularly in the middle east here where you know constantly putting pressure on the lebanese government to get rid of hezbollah that is elected to office is to get rid of hezb