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RT CrossTalk July 13, 2024

Hello and welcome across. Hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered im Peter Lavelle dissent is being criminalized speech where all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle dissent is being criminalized speech is being arrested just ask Max Blumenthal editor of the grey zone project is being arrested just ask Max Blumenthal editor of the grey zone project and a leading investigative journalist increasingly questioning Mainstream Media and a leading investigative journalist increasingly questioning Mainstream Media narratives and interrogating policymakers can get you banned monetary tubes and interrogating policymakers can get you banned monetized and even arrested. Prized and even arrested. Cross talking speech freedom im joined by my guest ray mcgovern and were. Talking speech freedom im joined by my guest ray mcgovern in raleigh he is a former cia analyst and cofounder of veteran intelligence professionals he is a former cia analyst and cofounder of veteran intelligence professionals for sanity in washington we have carla nixon he is the cohost of the signals for sanity in washington we have carla nixon he is the cohost of the sputnik radio show fault lines with nixon and stranahan and in pittsburgh radio show fault lines with nixon and stranahan and in pittsburgh we cross to dan he is an adjunct professor of law at the university of pittsburgh as well as. He is an adjunct professor of law at the university of pittsburgh as well as author of the plot to overthrow venezuela how the u. S. Is orchestrating a coup for oil the plot to overthrow venezuela how the u. S. Is orchestrating a coup for oil crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate rate let me go to you for a gentleman crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate great let me go to you 1st on. That i think. Its a rather deceit and those of charge. Falls arrest and the charges or bogus charges that he would say and hes contacted this pushes are bogus charges that he would say and hes contacted this program we invited him to come on but he was given legal advice that he probably shouldnt program we invited him to come on but he was given legal advice that he probably shouldnt so he wanted to be here but because there is ongoing litigation his lawyers told him the whole he wanted to be here but because there is ongoing litigation his lawyers told them to hold back. It seems to me on its face this is a criminalization of dissent will back it seems to me on its face this is a criminalization of dissent. Is a prolific journalist barry good one he knows. Is a prolific journalist barry good one he knows his stuff hes had some great work on venezuela on syria on russia gate and so many good stuff hes had some great work on venezuela on syria on russia gate and so many other topics it looks like theyre coming for max go ahead right in other topics it looks like theyre coming for max go ahead right well 1st a very small correction peter you say we all know about 1st a very small correction peter you say we all know about max none of my fellow americans know about mel you got ahead of me but i want to fix all of my fellow americans know about mel you got ahead of me but i want to go ahead of the history go ahead go ahead youre right. Go ahead of the industry go ahead go ahead youre right. Back off air and just say well you know theres an expression to. Back off air and just say well you know theres an expression the pen is mightier than the sword now the u. S. Gun is mightier than the sword. Now the u. S. Government and the Mainstream Media have collected all the pens that they can government and the Mainstream Media have collected all the pens that they can but they couldnt get Max Blumenthals or aaron mitts a tennis but they couldnt get Max Blumenthals or aaron mitts a tennis this is a terrific encouragement to old guys like me because the older generation this is a terrific encouragement to old guys like me because the older generation and half my age are come and come into their own they will not be stifled they didnt half my age or come in come into their own they will not be stifled they will not be discouraged so what do they pay well they pay the price of being arrested will not be discouraged so what do they pay will they pay the price of being arrested and held in a bit in those jails d. C. Jails for overnight 2 nights now and held in a bit in those shales d. C. Jails for overnight 2 nights now whats this all about well its intimidation pure and simple what people dont whats this all about well its intimidation pure and simple what people dont know is that on the 15th of october John Kiriakou you know is that on the 15th of october John Kiriakou was given the same treatment ok squad some police cars a bunch of people was given the same treatment ok squad some police cars bunch of people shackled and all that stuff so what theyre trying to do is i guess every 10 days pick both shackled and all that stuff so what theyre trying to do is i guess every 10 days pick out a real real offender in their in their view as somebody tells the truth a real real offender in their in their view as somebody tells the truth and blows the whistle on cia crimes was to be torture or overthrowing the gulf and blows the whistle on cia crimes was. Be torture or overthrowing the government of venezuela to teach us all a lesson that you cant do that thats beyond the pale remember that as well and teach us all a lesson that you cant do that beyond the pale well they will they wont quit the question is whether well get enough support from people who are well they will they wont quit the question is whether well get enough support from people who are kept in the dark about whats happened to max you know thats exactly why im doing in the dark about whats happened to max you know thats exactly why im doing this program because i am not going to be silent this is an egregious offense against freedom in this program because i am not going to be silent this is an egregious offense against freedom of speech the 1st amendment and a truly profoundly good journalist their speech the 1st amendment and truly profoundly good journalist here garland weigh in on this here where are the journalists ok im glad ray got ahead of me but darling weigh in on this here where are the journalists ok im glad ray got ahead of me but hes absolutely right where is the outcry here because you really have to search for it go ahead hes absolutely right where is the outcry here because you really have to search for it go ahead well one of the journalists are getting locked up the journalists are in bellmawr head. Well the journalists are getting locked up the journalists are in bellmawr belmarsh prison the stenographers for the deep state or running around masking as your belmarsh prison the stenographers for the deep state or running around masking as a journalist masquerading as a journalist so you know the reality is theyre not really worried or concerned about until it master reading is journalists so that you know the reality is theyre not really worried or concerned about it you know a lot of people will talk about you know a sonder Max Blumenthal and say wild it you know a lot of people will talk about you know a sonder Max Blumenthal and say why arent the other journalists standing up for them because eventually their next will the reality of the other journalists standing up for them because eventually their next will the reality is what we have now thats passing is journalism isnt next youre not going to be next if he is what we have now thats passing is journalism isnt next youre not going to be next if you are spouting you know if youre a spouse in the premises that the deep state want you to you are spouting you know if youre a spouse in the premises that the deep state want you to spells youre not going to be next so theyre very very safe i want to add this you know a lot of people spells youre not going to be next so theyre very very safe i want to add this you know a lot of people dont know this in my previous career i was in Law Enforcement and i was retired when i retired i was a major i was a can go no this in my previous career i was in Law Enforcement and i was retired when i retired i was a major i was a commander of the Investigations Divisions so i would handle particular these types of incidents commander of the Investigations Divisions so i would handle particular these types of incidents and i think one thing thats important to look at here is weve got a minor incident on alleged minor and i think one thing thats important to look at here is weve got a minor incident on alleged minor incident lead if it were me when i was the commander of the Investigations Division i would have simply said the incident lead if it were me when i was the commander of the Investigations Division i would have simply said to the person you need to go down to the court fill out an application for a statement of charges and the person. You need to go down to the court fill out an application for a statement of charges and mr blumenthal will be served with a summons and you can go to court there was no need to take the aggressor blumenthal will be served with a summons and you can go to court there was no need to take the aggressive action they did and sinned basically a team of officers for an unarmed person of action they did and sinned basically a team of officers for an unarmed person with no history of violence so that i think thats the key to understanding it seeing that the the over with no history of violence so that i think thats the key to understanding it seeing that the the overwhelming force that theyre using against journalists with no history of violence or doing really any welding force that theyre using against journalists with no history of violence or doing really anything that would that would make them a liability or a danger to Police Officers responding you think that would that would make them a liability or a danger to Police Officers responding yeah dan i mean from what the accounts that ive heard in this is from ben norton also at the gray zone is that swatch or a swat like dan i mean from what the accounts that ive heard in this is from ben norton also at the gray zone is that a swatch or a swat like officers came to maxs residence at 9 oclock in the more officers came to maxs residence at 9 oclock in the morning why do you need that kind of fire power i mean. Morning why do you need that kind of fire power i mean Max Blumenthal is on the record of saying if you just summoned me i would have shown up why do they need to use these kind thoughts on the record of saying if you just summoned me i would have shown up why do they need to use these kind of tactics here is it just pure intimidation go ahead dan yes its pure and of tactics here is it just pure intimidation go ahead dan yes its pure intimidation there was no need to do it as a Police Matter again this is an intimidation there. Theres no need to do it as a Police Matter again this is a 5 month old misdemeanor warrant the 5 month old misdemeanor warrant that they acted upon and as you said they surrounded his home they acted upon and as you said they surrounded his home and it threatened to knock down his door if he didnt come out he was arrested he was shot and to knock down his door if he didnt come out he was arrested he was shackled he was held incommunicado for 36 hours shackled he was held incommunicado for 36 hours not even able to call his own more europe there was no reason theres not even able to call his own more europe there was no reason for such a. Very minor charge for such a a very minor charge to treat him in this way this was clearly a politically motivated stunt treat him in this way this was clearly a politically motivated stunt to intimidate max to intimidate journalists like max to intimidate max to intimidate other journalists like max in it shameful and the other thing the chain will as weve touched upon in it shameful and the other thing the chain will as weve touched upon is that this is getting virtually no coverage in the press is that this is getting virtually no coverage in the press you know this because the mine statement by john pilger a journalist in great you know this because to mine a statement by john pilger a journalist in Great Britain he said what passes for journalism today is anti journal what britain. What passes for journalism today is anti journalism and i totally agree with you know i mean the message is being and i told the agree with you know i mean the message is being sent here and you have to toe the line here and i really want viewers of this programming sent here and you have to toe the line here and i really want viewers of this program to take a look at some of the work that gray zone is done its extremely good him to take a look at some of the work that gray zone is done its extremely good extremely professional and it pushes back against narratives extremely professional and it pushes back against narratives that were just fed every single day i mean the work hes done on venezuela for example he goes down there all the while c. N. N. Is say there is no toothpaste in the supermarket theres no Washing Powder theres nose shampoo people are eating their pets and then max goes into a Grocery Store and says well theres a lot of stuff here a lot of varieties he for example he goes down there all the while c. N. N. Is say there is no toothpaste in the supermarket theres no Washing Powder theres nose shampoo people are eating their pets and then max go figure Grocery Store and says well theres a lot of stuff here a lot of varieties here different prices and a lot i mean what he did was it was tongue in cheek but it was very factual different prices and a lot i mean what he did was it was tongue in cheek but it was very factual at the same time i mean what they were saying on the mainstream networks was completely false oh cool at the same time i mean what they were saying on the mainstream networks was completely false ok and he has the audacity to show them up and they dont k. And he has the audacity to show them up and they dont like that and the Mainstream Media that one of the reasons why these journalists dont say the same thing is they dont like the competition because gray zone r t the stock were going. More and more eyeballs and they dont like it go ahead ray well thats the big danger that they perceive you know they have to control it sort of thing and say i dont like the competition because gray zone r. T. Crosstalk were getting more and more eyeballs and they dont like it go ahead ray well thats the big danger that they perceive you know they have to control it sort of thing and if it takes intimidation if it takes trying to kill john terry kiriakou as if it takes intimidation if it takes trying to kill john terry kiriakou as it happened 2 years ago when they did a very usual that happened 2 years ago when they did a very usual sort of traffic thing to trap him in his vest but thats what it takes for that now look sort of traffic thing to trap him in his vest but thats what it takes for that now. We had the head of the cia bill casey. We had the head of the cia bill casey almost 40 years ago saying quote we know when i almost 40 years ago saying quote. We know when our dissent from a sion campaign is complete whenever our dissent from a sion campaign is complete when everything in the American People believe is false period and quote how i know everything in the American People believe is false period and quote how i know that barbara hanukah a friend of my was there when he said it she immediately read that barbara hanukah a friend of my was there when he said it she immediately reported to the press so if you want the American People to be obedient report it to the press so if you want the American People to be obedient and know only what the Mainstream Media wants you to hear within max bush and know only what the Mainstream Media want you to hear within Max Blumenthal and arran matej and a lot of these young guys and ben norton who are worst moment all and arran matej and a lot of these young guys and ben norton who were standing up for this thing and and saying not only the truth about venezuela but about syria ending up for this thing and and saying not only the truth about venezuela but about syria and of course a very important point Max Blumenthal wrote that book about a lot called life and what its really like in israel and that put him in the dog and of course a very important point Max Blumenthal wrote that book about a lot called life and what its really like to israel and that put him in the doghouse with all yet with all the Mainstream Media people who lets face it our own house for the all yet with all the Mainstream Media people who lets face it are underling influenced by people who cant distinguish between the objectives and to really influenced by people who cant distinguish between the objectives and the interests of israel on the one hand and of the United States on the other you know the interests of israel on the one hand and of the united. States on the other you know garland i will mention all these important points of the gray zone and you know garland i will ment

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