Treaty in question which undoubtedly the dayton accords are going to throw out even after clinton the north of Us Administration continue to derogated the agreement and it will be in line was earlier promises to the muslims and bows to governor worth of that they would calm down and subsequently make the country for muslims as they wish. They had been doing this for 24 years. In any case they have dismantled the date on the words to the extent that Republika Srpska used to be destroyed. Of course they failed to do so but they took many rights from people like a serb scum they were the only ones who systematically violated the dayton accords with their most introduce the term the spirit of dayton rather than the letter of the date and in that spirit to try to take all of the rooty away in turn serbs and croats you know ive been through the more 1st mass to be submitted politically to the will of the muslim. Soraya you know if a border of the. Collateral damage in that case call it that only would possible trace will be with me. In one of your recent insidious so you could boast in herzegovina i quote and im certainly created state if youre still living within the framework of this agreement at this point other daytona courts are doing republican serbska more harm than good. There is no doubt that bosnia and herzegovina was an experiment it goes up at the top when the dayton accords were adopted and that experiment of the main idea was to create a perfectly normal society of democratic principles from a conflict Ridden Society all out of the blue. Of course this was not possible so if you not want to democrats in the former yugoslavia mostly in her to govern i was said to be a small yugoslavia because the relations of the same people who remained in bosniaherzegovina were the main problem in the former yugoslavia. Croats and muslims were the dominant national and ethnic groups in yugoslavia and then suddenly at the end of this process of the dissolution of yugoslavia someone powerful in the west sad that bosnia which essentially has serbs croats and muslims as the dominant National Ethnic groups must remain in place more often the main question is if a large yugoslavia could not survive in the cold but how could a small yugoslavia survive or not. Somebody is not recognized by the agreement were formed for such as the Peace Implementation Council it is not only dayton accords. It has taken over the Decision Making process on the part of the International Community in relation to bosnia and herzegovina. And it introduced a special way of governing in the last 15 years the neighboring the ambassadors of the countries of that council to meet in sarajevo and decide what to do most in herzegovina. That was. By introducing a new system of government for your children or call the system and equip them better. There is nothing like this in the world but were told theres been 24 years after they went was signed. The International Community remains here. They have not dismantled the dayton accords enough to destroy the subjectivity of republican voter to assure that is why the High Percentage still here as well. 33 just like 25 years ago the issue of nato when it comes to determining the future of this region washington is adamant that wasnt in her its government but it should activate the membership action plan for the war and your public stance is the only reason it hasnt happened yet but why do you object. To woodridge over norm on a minimal ideologic now i will continue objecting talk to a lot of republicans serbska the everyone agrees those in power and their position which we must not become a nato member under any circumstances our reason is clear nato bombed pretty public. Not to be bombed using depleted uranium munitions for throw that still is killing our children today. Nato bombed serbia. Nature was starting our nation huge material damage and killed many people. Will be remarked if we decided to become a nato member but what we would give it a moral right to believe that it did the right thing for moral stand this way we would betray the memory of those who died as a result of. A new corporate bombing operation was called the angel of mercy can you imagine that. Not on or. Another important point of course is the fact that serbia were and is the home country of my people has established a policy or military neutrality and republican is following that policy or. We do not want to line or even the balkans which is now formally border to be strengthened and kept in place we wanted to disappear. Secondly the more if we made the decision it would have to spend twice as much money as we spend today in our armed forces we war that would be a blow to our economy were not in our state budget do not true that would mean no more we have to buy military hardware and weapons exclusively from nato countries. Is only one of the reasons for me to say that all possible ways of becoming nato member would definitely lead us into the situation room and we will lose our political autonomy. A few weeks ago there were hearings held in the United States congress with a new very interesting title successes and Unfinished Business and finance in the western balkans. You name came up a lot which ill admit that mentions mostly in a negative context as the main obstacle to progress but tree no that leaves me just a bit different and she used to be quite well in washington right Madeleine Albright spoke well of here. Wallace. What has changed. Maybe the circumstances do you think that you might do more then criticize in order to take care of their socalled Unfinished Business and the western balkans progress through reform because we saw what kind of progress that was saw that with our own eyes being bombed here. And i think we should start with a battle of the United States was almost the only superpower in the ninetys had to go to. You know put through i was elected Prime Minister that was a very important step out of the political lobbying we were in total isolation what i was a previous leader of republic of recorders. Other put on trial out of that your story we were completely isolated surrounded and probably as we saw it later. We were in the plans for destruction or never possible meaning of that word but we put them on over. Me of course my role was 1st try to open up the public a service as much as possible at that time made sense to sort things out and work with americans of americans from what i did put out there so at the time we really expected to find a server who would become their contractor and what do you make them and their plans of dismantlement because serbs go without rather a venue where confirm that has changed theyre going about through found a local Political Landscape has changed too i mean its a global new order today that america is not what you used to be 10 years ago. When our own doctor im just trying to be realistic with russia would go up to 100 to leave story they ask me to accept changes to the constitution and make republicans serbska numb to shell i did not agree to that ground that is one of the misunderstanding started at least indirectly i have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments statement. The. Welcome back to all the part of the boston syrup later well add thought it. Nato membership is usually presented as step one to joining the European Union. And we know you envisage republican serbska eventually becoming part of the commons in the european space. What do you say that still whatever realistic prospect. No documents that need to use a lobby leading to the European Union today when the 5 few countries are not new to members. It was only because of the wests brush that the Eastern European countries actually joined on a. They did it to get into the e. U. Sooner. Than they were we have separated history. And the e. U. Membership talks today. At least as the e. U. Says its. You dont need to be a part of nature to have these storks. And that makes the situation way more simple. The European Union is full of internal problems the latest messages that have come out of those about a large amount and Enlargement Negotiations with old man here and you know macedonia they have significantly harder mind our confidence in this whole process has never been an association based on equality and everyone is supposed to follow instructions coming from brussels i think they have internal problems and they themselves say that until they solve them any large land is impossible so clear messages have been sent to us that we need to look after ourselves here to believe in ourselves infusing hasnt for the European Union has significantly weakened not only more of the story that it was standard 15 years ago so i can give you any estimate you have a hard sale of us press it appeared like to ask you about that. Then. That you spoke of. They were not given the green light for membership talks because a man around the fronts objected to it saying that reforms should come 1st and only after that might anyone be invited to the negotiating table in your opinion can be an honest demand and that is this is a pretty good on the Eastern European countries being deceived then he and north mess dounia agreed to becoming a to members. Has conducted the necessary reforms for and even changed his official name. Government had to pay a high price for that despite all that the 2 havent been given what theyre seeking not. Significant price. Of corn has been talking a lot recently making many promises there were no hes trying to secure a dominant position in the e. U. That is what we think emerged from the reason for that is that the u. K. Is leaving their much course and germany will be without an important leader such as merkel next year. Or. In any case would work i think we should remember the story of nato and the 5 nonny nonnative countries in europe when it is true that they have promised negotiations to not and most dont in this country has entered this difficult process of changing its name to dawn and of course albania in the past was very easy to give it any promises given the strategic position. But this. Could be very new cannot just likely that the 2 countries are moving towards a nato awarded but this will be very difficult considering the European Union position not on or. Not so the process is not the same for everyone. New toyota from the most need to comes from a position of force and this is not easy for us from europe here we are a Little Country warning for us is difficult to face such an enormous political military conglomerate and to push our independence through nirmal as well as our identity but here we are showing that this is indeed possible previously you said that oftentimes become a topic of conversation in the u. S. Congress they say that i am an obstacle in the way of progress it is really incorrect to claim that progress demands on one person only on its almost impossible to do its not logical its not true. And yet the congressmen say that thats the usual way of doing things for the United States does the government doesnt like it puts the blame on the one person only in order to break them and the u. S. Is doing that to me and im aware of it one example is the fact that i have been blacklisted by the u. S. Administration if anyone asked me how i feel i would say that it is easier for me that way because i dont have to interact with the american so often now. But once im here now let me ask you personally to theme to the question. I know the president mccrone triggered wave of resentment when he called boston herzegovina ticking time bomb on the contrary and him being friends. By definition. Below a turning given time they say do you think that your country as it is today just. A route into war which unfortunately has already happened here because you did thought it was just which i was definitely story around old enough im definitely convinced that there is no conflict about to happen here but i cannot rule out the possibility of a terrorist threat from a grown considering what himself spoke about a book or a bushman on the door said that many people from france have gone to fight for the slum mixtape. Because some people from bosnia went there to fight for. You not even one serb left not even one. Moslems did. I mean the radical ones and they could be seen as a real terrorist threat to bush and bush has already today in bosnia from their own muslim communities where is based on. Its being promoted and that it could be a very dangerous mix if combined with the problem of those fighters who are returning from syria boy you really need to take care of that. When you add to that one part of the Islamic Community if not the religious Islamic Community from serbia most there ready to license officials. And others who provide the basis for such sentiments that we must not rule out the possibility of terrorist attacks by these very individuals or not but that could be just as dangerous as any large scale conflict with a lot. Richer richer rather well for over a year now has been in the governance crisis its been basically para lost that the 2 entities of the country have been unable to form a Central Government that isnt the reason for that and the political or even the joke only to. Games around. Talked about previously knicks are trying to internationalize the problem of malls and herzegovina once again the generation of those politicians who stood at the helm in brussels and washington at the time of conflict are leaving. They thought it at the public a serbska should move towards need to. Be other ones who dont want to change nato. For us was not negotiate. They knew it and that is why they say youre not going to move to need to reform no government will be formed and i said what ok youre not going to move towards nato and we will form a government. One year after the elections you do know is that you have no elected government at the level of bosnia and herzegovina no more room to pick one i cannot really say when it will finally happened to certain is that we cannot accept the membership action plan. B. Which just difficult to avoid cooperation was needed at least in some way we do not want to start membership go she asians and thats what they are trying to impose on us in brussels and elsewhere in asia they are saying that it is not going and republicans serbs. Are throwing spokes in the will. Just work i said well as a republican serbska isnt sitting idly by as far as i know the parliament discussed a possible referendum in nato membership last week not in the edition you are known for openly advocating for the complete independence of your country russia is what comes 1st for us to become fully independent or avoids becoming a need to mend the room you know they want to look through were not taking any action on independence but Republika Srpska does not rule out such a possibility they for example if you were to vote in a referendum on republicans and asked for or against republican could be an independent state. According to all the polls that we have you know there were 3 as well as the foreign ones over 82. 283 percent of people would vote for an independent country. That is a considerable number. Of the number one story is that the west maintains that bosnia and herzegovina should be good through and that is you know to introduce a one man one vote system throughout bosnia and herzegovina for liberal societies in the west 3 cause this is understandable given the fact that there are 3 constituent nations that are leaving here that have their rights given to them by the constitution and force today to put us through this very difficult to expect list to be enforceable through my muslim and they stop with that kind of story they want the Muslim Bosniaks or in absolute numbers the majority to be given the country or at least waiting a bit where he would become a minority that is something we cannot accept a force and for these reasons the public in a public prefers the story about status after all what we should not be forgotten that with serbska was formed with the aim of 9 independent reward you know and after 4 or 5 years accepted an International Agreement of the high degree of autonomy show to know that it only has been substantially corroded over all the stein by the high representative we have very dissatisfied with the worst we are not in the position to decide where we figure who decided to remove we would not state imposed in herzegovina not even for a 2nd. Quite often vilified called one of the kremlins puppets. Of the russian what they entre and that is currently more active in the balkans that it was say 15 years ago to be perfectly honest i dont always fully understand the gills of russias Foreign Policy in the region is this something you dislike about russias presence here. Russia is acting correctly in the region. Russia is here to help you bomb which not to lecture anyone on how one should behave in the political arena going to throw anyway its a completely different approach. Have always had a special place for russian army. They know which in the west a very well known viral today. In the west to preventing their frustration was rochelle me and its Economic Growth and growing just gotten by talking about that going to the bad russian influence here in the balkans but in fact the only Bad Influence here is the one coming from the west you know the west that has broken our political and institutional will to get what it wanted to achieve its own Political Goals but we dont be russia has never done that. Youre going to get any were talking about russia. I have talked to president Vladimir Putin many a time is a thinker put you know