Line from moscow studio is just a minute call for in the morning youre watching R T International welcome to the program we start with this the Peace Process for Eastern Ukraine is showing signs of progress with a cease fire and prisoner swap due to take place by the end of this year they does of Russia Ukraine france and germany held 6 hours of talks in paris and it resolving the long running conflict well for more on this we cannot cross live to our correspondent. Who is in paris for us where the negotiations took place it there all some positive signals seeming to come from these talks nice new crane could you tell us more about what was agreed today. Rosana hi again well of the question is has there been a breakthrough or not well i can tell you that for the 1st time in quite a while and also for the 1st time the. New president of ukraine and president putin of russia shook hands for the 1st time ever a glimmer selenski and well dimmer puton spoke to each other one on one and they spent i did tired day with europes 2 key mediators the leaders of france and germany and the residence of the predator president here in paris and we do have to remember that its thanks to paris and berlin that the original peace road map for ukraine was hammered out almost 5 years ago one is this if not a breakthrough in that sense definitely that this word is appropriate but there are several reasons why the talks in paris could be called a favor failure and we do have to remember the key stumbling blocks in the Peace Process in that area right now there are several issues russia has prioritized the following elements of the minsk agreements that is a political reform and ukraine which should grant special status for the breakaway pro russian republics of lugansk and the nets and also in the midst agreements that actually says that these political reforms somehow have to be worked were reflected in the countrys constitution plus theres another element that is Free Democratic elections in the region now what ukraine has prioritized in its turn their the goal of their government thats what theyre always talking about is granting the Ukrainian Army the control of the border between the breakaway republics and the Russian Federation and i do have to say though that in fact the elements that russia is thinking about in the 1st place do call 1st in the order when you look at whats written in the midst agreements and. That is something that a lot of our approach reminded about all monday. Now according to the arrangements that ukraine will begin with down the road come through and. Control of the territory. Of the bullet on the next following the election why do we need to. Cool its very. Follows the if we. Won provision to. Disrupt the situation disrupt the process. So again just to explain why this could be called favor in some form fail or story and some way none of these elements that ive mentioned before will be complete in the near future ukraines not ready for compromises with russia and russia is not ready to give up the order of the cord to the order of the elements from that agreement like mr putin said right now but then i do want to come back to a very important document that came out as a result of the talks in paris its called common conclusions being made by the normandy quartet and there we have 3 very important elements paragraph one there are all kinds of humanitarian and peace measures that are very important for the people that are suffering on the ground this includes a Prisoner Exchange as you mentioned which should hopefully happen by the end of the year and also a complete cease far along the front line in east ukraine and all that according to the agreements that were made on monday and power. This will have to happen before new years eve before the end of 2019 the 2nd element is about all these political reforms. That ukraine is supposed to go forward with although the wording in there is quite peculiar you dont really read study anything ukraines obliged to do anything in that sense from that particular document but it says Something Like the sides are all interested in progress in that matter but then this brings me to element 3 words says that the leaders of germany france russia and ukraine will get together again in 4 mugs to look at whats been done and possibly agree on new things and break the stalemate look at all these elements that are. That the they havent been able to solve for now but they are hoping that maybe they can do it next. Certainly a lot of ground covered in paris today arties a line from paris for us thank you for that. Well look at some of those points it is why did you political context we can now cross live to georgia hes Senior Research for the Global Policy institute that george thanks for joining us and then the nominee for countries as we just heard that agreed on the prisoner swap and a cease fire by the end of the year does that bring us closer to resolving this conflict in Eastern Ukraine. Well it certainly brings us closer but it doesnt mean the resolution is any when theyre in sight i mean these are good steps the ceasefire the creation of these 3 disengagement areas the increase in the humanitarian crossing points and as you mentioned the Prisoner Exchanges i think theyre all going to come about and theyre all good things. But i think the the something block. The big ticket items down the road and as your correspondent mentioned namely the. Special status for the less than the guns and the steinmeyer formula. Another key Sticking Point is this border again our correspondent just mentioned that that is the border between the republics and the Russian Federation why is this such a Sticking Point for both ukraine and russia. Well its a Sticking Point because theres very little trust between the 2 sides because theres a fear that once. The ukraine. Return of the coup control of the borders returns fluke year they are going to relaunch their offensive against the people looked at us no longer and the russians will then be in local station to provide any assistance so thats what they want to put in place before them in place there youve got the constitutional change its there in the guise of use of the special status and you have the elections and so therefore then and only then will you marry you know bring in your borders under control otherwise basically were going to go back to what happened in 2014 when the government launched a horrific offensive against these 2 provinces georgia lets focus for a moment on some of the key players that were involved in these negotiations i mean. Merkel aside they were moderating but lets talk about putin and selenski because as our correspondent in there this is the 1st time weve seen the sort of shaking hands they had some serious bilateral talks alongside the negotiations what do you make of it all. Well i think those that again are good at science. I did notice during the press conference that there was sort of tension between. The wasnt that the body language wasnt especially friendly and. A number of times the lens he was referring to with. The donetsk and lugansk occupied areas. I dont think well deal with much appreciated the reference of office by the areas because theyre not occupied areas these are the people who live there are people who have lived in ukraine. You know a 100 years so you cant call them occupied areas so. I mean i think that that zillahs getting means well but you know he has a lot of political pressures approaches deal with it and the kinds of concessions that he would have to make in order to make peace a realistic possibility in dollars below goes a lot of show hes going to be allowed to make. Certainly big meetings like this big forums always give the press lots of food for thought when analyzing body language and things like that so im sure well get lots more analysis next couple of days as want to bring up the United States which might seem a bit strange because they were there today but thats the key point really isnt it because ukraine is a big topic in the u. S. Right now with regard to impeachment hearings also the u. S. Has provided military aid to ukraine how do you think washington is viewing all this. Well thats an excellent question and i think that is the head of the the big gorilla in the room because the United States was well doesnt want this to the result i mean it was the the conflict is going russia and ukraine to continue. Wants to continue to isolate russia anything above all doesnt want europeans to the resulting european problems any problems in europe as the result by the United States so yes that is a very important issue and i unfortunately i think there are americans are going to act the spoilers like i just urged selenski to to basically not go down that you know just because they mistrust the russians has nothing to do with the russians and continues to fight this war because the american policy is always we will fight to the last ukrainians and i thought i think they will have a very negative influence on whats going on that side of interesting insights that youre somebody Senior Research fellow Global PolicyInstitute Thanks for your time thank you. Well joining these talks in paris levitation commented on the wealth Antidoping Agencys decision to ban russia from International Sporting events for the next 4 years. Punishment must not be collective affecting people who have nothing to do with certain violations of the law and executive committee confirmed on monday that rush will be banned for allegedly manipulating the data well bring you more on that story after this short break. To globalization the dollars a share you know what is happening in the world is kind of drifting apart in a lot of different ways we look into it because theres an Economic Force behind it as always. Welcome back and to our other Headline News russia has been banned from all major sporting events for the next 4 years by the World Antidoping Agency according to walter moscow is being punished for tampering with a database of test results from athletes. It was at the water press conference in love. What are officials announcing a unilateral decision over a 4 year ban on russia taking part in major sporting events during that period meaning that russian athletes wont be able to compete and the ban over russia nor will they be able to fly the russian flag at those major events those major events could include tokyo 2020 and also the world athletics championships theres also suggestion that this could impact the football world cup in 2022 russia wont be able to host nor be able to bid for any major sporting events during that 4 year period russian officials wont be able to go in an official capacity to those games nor will officials in russia be able to sit on the boards of major sporting committees all boards during that time when they were questioned about what that would mean for russian athletes who didnt have any cloud of suspicion over them when it came to doping allegations they said that each russian athlete would have to prove their innocence this is a ban against russia that protect the rights of russian each. Entry for major is. Able to demonstrate that they are not implicated in any we. Are complying. To these decisions. Are really sanctioning those responsible for this many pollutions and leave those open for those who had nothing to do with. In russia clean. Plates well what it says in its investigation was the sale date was forensic and that investigation showed that the data entered received from a moscow lobbying question had it believed to be tampered with this was that data from a moscow lab relating to information from 2012 to 2015 while the said that that was dated didnt match the data it into. Sieved from the whistleblower which started this big scandal but what i went further and said during that time in moscow in 2808 experts say that they had also seen that all the data had been tampered with and thats why theyve taken this decision from the date it received 145 they were able to pinpoint that had had a question mark over them were not sure if they were in russia a lot but it said only around a 3rd of those athletes were currently active now of russian officials have a very different story to this they say that the data that was handed over. Hadnt been tampered with that they had applied to all of the conditions and stipulations set out by wada and as a result of fans who saw that which is the russia being agency would be appealing this decision i asked to present what a poor response on that russia says its rejected all of the allegations of data manipulation it says its provided you evidence to counter to show that it didnt modify the data what do you have to say to that and was that taken account in your decision well i wasnt part of the c. R. C. Discussion what i do know is that it was close cooperation between the. Under russian im not sure what conversations they had with floyd example the Russian Olympic Committee. But those people who are interested are entitle to under the standard to appeal and if they wish to appeal they have 21 days to accept this secession or not and if they do not know that they wish to appeal then we will be in cash i write disease and clearly it is technical you need to be a fire engine. And we passed it on immediately sure say thank you very much it does not change the opinion that the well received. They will appeal that decision meaning that this is like you know to end up in the court of arbitration for that court to decide who is right and who is wrong on this particular topic for the meantime though one perhaps ray of light water officials did say today that they was a possibility over changing this decision and that possibility rested on the fall tempered data being provided by that law in moscow something that the russians say they have already done. For all to see in this whole switzerland where meanwhile Russian Sports federations have been quick to question walters decision. Theres decisions a biased inexplicably there to politicize them prejudged that punishing russia is the state which was connected to this story without showing any credible evidence is an absolutely normal Transparent Organization punishing the states and clean sportsmen and women why should that be considered for. Them absolutely sure its wrong to punish and impose severe sanctions against those 100 percent meeting every one committee requirement. What is decision is unfair its wrong to treat sports men and women on the basis of their nationality i believe all sports participants have the right to represent their country on the international arena. And there has also been reaction from the sports world to the verdict the u. K. Is Anti Doping Agency has welcomed wilders decision saying its the only possible outcome the head of the United StatesAntidoping Agency has said the measures taken by water arent enough he branded russias escape from a complete ban as a devastating blow to clean athletes and the rule of law the same reaction was shared in fact by waters vice president. Wanted that complete and that we had 2 choices and i supported and still not see kids today and im afraid that if we supported. Or didnt support the c. R. C. That i would want to it. Was his decision has left a lot of Unanswered Questions is. Explains. Imagine a person that robs a bank steals lets say a 1000000. 00 gets caught gets prison time gets out like a near your early for Good Behavior but then the police tells him you know were not sure you actually stole millions maybe your stole more so were going to push imprison back again well that is basically the logic which the World Antidoping Agency applied to the whole nation of russia in their decision on monday to ban the country from major sports competitions in the world saying that russian athletes can compete individually but they have to again prove that they have not used any kind of doping. Of the news me im the position of the Russian Olympic Committee stays the same the sanctions are inadequate not logical and too severe we would do our best for the Russian Olympic Team to participate in the Upcoming Games in japan under the colors of the russian trick due to the terms of the olympic charter. Well if someone committed a crime fair enough he or she should be punished for that but it is quite unclear how exactly stripping and they send off its flag in a major sports competitions across the planet can actually solve the problem of fighting against doping youre not innocent until Proven Guilty in anti doping at school youre guilty and city can prove youre innocent its a complete reversal of the normal Justice System but its always been that way you gotta think about whats on the World Antidoping Agency has jurisdiction but it doesnt have jurisdiction over the russian authorities they come sanction Russian Politicians russian. You know the consequent politicians can it all it can do essentially resell it and take actions relative to sports so its come up with this International Standard to code compliance by signatories which is used to sanction russia this time around and its come up with these sanctions