Live from moscow thanks for joining us on our Teams International this evening im Daniel Hawkins welcome to the program. Now this tuesday was day 2 of wiki leaks founder Julian Assange just hearing on extradition to the United States where the whistleblowers want to run espionage charges if handed over he could be facing a 175 Year Prison Sentence for his role in the publication of classified Intelligence Data his supporters say the case is a test the fundamental journalistic freedoms that he has the latest. Day 2 would crown calls and we have the song cheering supporters have been out in full force again we can hear them chanting throughout the proceedings now we had the defense talking today talking about why these allegations should be thrown out of course they talked about mrs mannings involvement in the release of the 2002006200 extension 7 iraq talk documents the iraqi diaries and obviously the release of the collateral murder video saying that she felt that her conscience required her to release those documents. Julian assange as she was handcuffed 11 times prior to the course of these hearings stripped naked twice and his case files called the skated after the 1st day of his extradition hearing according to his lawyers thats been told and they complained of interference and his ability to take part but of course the court has said that they cant intervene in this so we will have to see whether the prison authorities do actually come forward and answer those questions as to why that happened now we did manage to talk to former british diplomats and whistleblower craig murray i know julian reasonably well the. Very obvious evidence of his mental and physical deterioration is how thick. The people. I was when i was in solitary confinement for many months in solitary theres a little more contact not allowing contact this was not allowing his papers stealing all these papers the embassy not allowing him a computer. For the United Nations special tortures or. The psychological torture of ive no i dont know what i see the person i know i could i can feel. Suffering the effects of torture i have no doubt about that in my mind at all but i think its entirely. Same thing of all im saying it was that struck every single observer ive spoken to is just how amazingly hostile openly hostile the magistrate is to everything with the sense to say its all suggestive and plainly the entire these of for the prosecution in the 1st place. Is surely in the United States that the evidence of americas war crimes and corruption with which with the leaks exposed and with with time they got to waivers offer that to you earlier playing out in court i think anybody who believes this is a genuinely independent political process is very naive indeed. Ok spoke to wiki leaks editor in chief Kristen Rushton who says he was briefly prevented from entering the courtroom on tuesday. In that youve been in the hearing for the last 2 days but you werent is that because youre not allowed to go in i was told specifically that the court had. Decided that i would not be allowed into the Public Gallery under what. I had to go out so i was giving more ground and i went to search for they had off the court here in the building the head of the office was not available so i went out and i made a statement it was treated 7 as far and wide and retreated and within a couple of minutes i was approached and i was told that there had a misunderstanding had occurred and they actually apologized i have to man the explanation of what occurred what happened today and what you make of the arguments for chile songes extradition presented so far yesterday we heard very shallow and hollow arguments from the u. S. That have since that yesterday afternoon and especially this morning been torn apart by the lawyers of julian of science they are basically present thing to the judge that she has to take into consideration that the extradition request is based on fabrication and they can easily be proved by publicly available information cheerio that is available to you in the states so the abuse here is that the English Court is being misled by americans who are trying to abuse the process of exhibition does it feel like when you walk in does it feel extremely heavy almost what it feel like the conditions at the Court Hearing here are totally inadequate for a hearing of the officer importance julian is in the dock behind bulletproof glass he has indicated often that he has a hard time hearing whats going on in the room its a. Rather small courtroom and. Very Small Screens for the public for the media. This is. Somewhat not what i expected for. Hearing you think youd ever get a fair trial in the u. S. My problem is that well get a fair trial here in the u. K. Its important to just. Over the abuse. They were the. Reasons 4 time olympic champion and top insurance run a mo farah is facing fresh media scrutiny over claims he repeatedly lied to us officials about his alleged use of a controversial supplement. Has the details. This summer the whole of Great Britain will be glued to their screens rooting for the nations prize athlete 4 time olympic champion runner more or will they and you panorama documentary by the b. B. C. Has cast further doubt on whether more farah success was cleanly one of all. Costs or move to. Choose what to to win at all costs the main Sticking Point is the role of former coach Alberto Salazar who was banned in october 29000 for 4 years from any sports activities he was the head of the controversial nike oregon project until the u. S. Antidoping agency suspected he may have banned the doping rules one of those substances he used was l. Carnitine designed to speed up muscle and heart recovery for athletes its considered legal in those us which did not exceed 50 millimeters over 6 hours salazar however reportedly invented a new method of administering l. Carnitine through intravenous injections which itself sparked questions from u. S. Antidoping authorities it hasnt been secret that more had had injections of the substance prior to the London Marathon in 2014 but the new documentary opens a fresh can of worms namely about the relationship between salazar. And u. K. Athletics mead berry head of Long Distance running at 6 still employed by the organization in 2014 he reportedly flew to switzerland to obtain the carnitine in a form which could not have been acquired in the u. K. He did not document this trip even though he had to his colleague u. K. Athletics dr rob chakravarty reportedly administered the injections to more and yet he didnt report it either even though it is against the rules to prevent he later said he simply forgot to do that due to over working and travelling plus generally better than usual occurrence that this very specific medicine was required to source to great difficulty given against the initial advice of the doctor being the work he said he recalls of it and therefore decides to keep quiet about it but the even more bizarre case of forgetfulness occurred with more himself when you saw the investigators came to question him 1st he staunchly denied that he used l. Carnitine left the interrogation but then came back and changed his account having spoken to barry fudge. Never taking comments in injections at all i just wanted to come clean sorry go and i did take it at the time and i thought i didnt usual comes back for me but at the time i didnt remember more farrahs lawyer says the athlete just didnt get the question now having seen the documentary the u. K. Antidoping agencys c. E. O. Nicole sapp said said she the agency was ready to cooperate and even called usada investigation robust we thank the Panorama Team for their efforts the program is another example of the importance of Investigative Journalism regards and Integrity Matters in sports u. K. And to doping Agency Support of the u. S. Anti duping agency with their investigation into the nike oregon project we believe us and today been agencies investigation was extensive and robust. But just a month ago the u. K. Openly refused to hand over more all to doping probes to usada for retesting now theres no word whether this these new revelations would lead to the much sought retesting of ferrous probes because who knows what kind of further controversies surrounding the pride of britain sport such a move would uncover after this latest panorama bombshell. Does cross lives of almost boards a media lecturer Ellis Cashmore thanks for joining us good to have in the program today whats your response firstly to this panorama of us to gauge obviously quite what big claim is the most are the changes account to us the investigators but what do you make of it. I have to say donyell im not completely surprised by this theres been a shadow hanging over therapy for number of years now actually there has been no suggestion people keep repeating that hes done anything untoward but his mere association with summers are known who is currently suspended of course for doping violations that association in itself i think raises questions and this latest revelation really opens up as our exit just said a thorough line of investigation because im sorry i just dont buy the fact that someone or some people could be so forgetful is so injects a substance into you you dont forget you can just walk away and say no they didnt do it and then sometime later say oh i forgot it happened i just go by that im afraid so i think theyll be further investigations and im sure that there will be new facts disclosed over the coming months before the olympics in fact what does this do for the image of you catherine takes 1st reputation because its been alleged obviously the athletics you cant let its officials discussed just a couple of days before the London Marathon in 2014 whether would be ethical to give more power injections of l. Carnitine. Does this badly threatening operation of the catheter you know daniel they keep saying now this is all through pete over the last 24 hours we did nothing that wasnt compliant with water protocols you know if this car nitty is ok if administered in the d right dosage or so its a legal substance its not on the bin list so to speak. But there are also saying it may not be within the spirit of sport what does that mean you know this to me is it is so very uncertain someone should pin that now what exactly are we talking about mysterious a lot i know its legal or it isnt theres no 2 ways about it and if there has been a violation of a war because then im afraid u. K. Athletics has to be brought to justice because it opus saw a period well in this guy salazar lets not lets keep reminding ourselves this guy is currently suspended but he seems to have been throwing his weight around quite a lot in europe cats that thinks and they seem to be have been taking notice of him as alexis just told us this said one of their officials to sue myrick to pick up the young carnitine which presumably later was administered to her or perhaps to other athletes we dont know if its so much mystery surrounding this now that the you know its as if the the waters get modded at every turn one thing for certain is that far out as being the most successful track athlete in british olympic history but what kind of legacy to leave behind we dont know the moment but this put it this way the tragedy mystery yeah thats what my next question really because if these allegations are proven true and theyre not obviously confirmed as of yet adamant a full comprehensive investigation if they are though what will the outcome before you get i think sun from afar i mean do you think theres going to be a similar level of scrutiny to that face for example by russia and its satellites or i was just about to say oh dont forget your characteristics as one of the most vocal critics of russia i dont really pressured to have russia outlawed for the olympics now it looks like a what a wonderful case of hypocrisy because at this at this. Time they were pushing for russias expulsion they were engaging in lets not lets not get out landing in course but lets say dubious tactics to your strategy themselves if theres the very fact that they overlooked the practices or even indorse the practices of salazar it soft looks problematic to me what about my far as the story because his claim his claim his lawyers claim rather that theyve done nothing wrong hes done nothing wrong because he misunderstood the question about al qaida team what you make about the fence. I depends on how much you trust most of her i mean in my honestly forgotten you know someone puts injection of. Substance and you know shooting in your arm or work another part of your anatomy my feeling is that you really really forget that and if asked about it then and forced to give it all starts it was presumably was you dont really know and then forget about it 5 minutes later and its all by the way ill be glad i didnt understand the question you know how credible is that you know a lot of prayer still left to explore and questions to answer for most for some elector and its cashmore thanks so much for coming on today great to have you with us pleasure. Now in other headlines 3 days of mourning have been announced an egypt after its former president Hosni Mubarak died this tuesday at the age of 91 as the countrys 4th head of state running for over 30 years before he was deposed during the arab spring protests that erupted in cairo back in early 20 levon reports near has this report. Cosima barak leaves behind a mixed legacy on the one hand he is credited with turning the egyptian economy into a market one and also mediating in a number of middle east conflicts ensuring also that the israeli egyptian peace treaty that was signed in 1999 remained in place but on the other hand he came to symbolize everything that people thought was wrong with egypt widespread corruption economic stagnation and political repression and now he came to power after the assassination of anwar sadat he saw that us as a nation up close and he spent much of his nearly 3 decades in power making sure that islamic extremists would never come to power and that a police state would ensue now we felt some of that here he handedness when i reported from Tahrir Square in the early part of 2011 myself and the other journalists often felt the brunt of tear gas that was sprayed at us and this sometimes 1000000 protesters who came out to the streets at the same time i would often have a laser beam shining into my face i remember asking some of the protesters what they felt would be the legacy of mubarak and they say that he had many to unite egyptians ironically unite them against his own leadership it was just it was people in the last times square as you can see heating oil. Occupation i peoples voices here are loud but theyre being drawn down by 16 is it me 21 is trying to hit me but it is not going down without a fine small break was forced to resign and that resignation was welcomed by washington despite the fact that for the better part of 3 decades he had been a close ally of the United States interesting lee in 2011 in the year that he was signed washington gave Something Like more than 1000000000. 00 in military aid to egypt now mubarak was replaced by morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood who proved to be one popular and leave it. In a situation that was even more unstable than it had been before. We have heard from the current president. He said that mubarak was a military leader and a war hero and 3 days of mourning has been declared in the country at all dollars is the Political Editor of the middle east magazine he shared with us his recollections of meeting hoarsely. I dont do them several times and you know as they got a really good sense of humor when i interviewed them had my panama hat then said oh i like you have eyes that i would love to see at 5. 00 and your chin were meaning its yours well im afraid your excellencys it is too big to fit you know he was really relaxed with his of your. Dogs and i said to him who is big headed to a man to fit him he said thats a very that it would have you actually considered jaw at cafes and bars at a 2nd career as so i stood well least want to mr president there is copyrighted you cant use it so anyway so he cant actually theres a will and a bit but he was quite relaxed about it and he also let society be a modernized and the weather nazi and allowed his nomic avenger lists on t. V. And passed through islamist laws he tried to add to make the state a beer more islamic then theres the mess hes actually fighting and that actually led to islamization as your chance to sightsee making you like darren afghanistan and that was the way for the Muslim Brotherhood to come. Still to come police in Northern Ireland apologised after flyers were circulated linking Alcohol Consumption would rape well well tell you what about that after the short break. Join me every thursday on the alex simon sure and ill be speaking to us from the world of politics or business im show business ill see you then. The point is should we actually be charging for it because this is when we charge for things is because its a benefit to the person who is buying it and thats the audiology took over education about 30 or 40 years ago but the perspective of education was originally that education is a benefit for society in general i wouldnt want to live in a Society Without doctors or engineers what happened without economists. Saying it of being a private benefit ignoring the public means that were ignoring that the skill basis we need for a Sophisticated Society and putting the burden of that school on the individuals and what we turn it into is just another churn institution of Higher Education become a 4 version of a real estate scam that is not the basis for a functional society. The Program Police in Northern Ireland of apologized after leaflets linking Alcohol Consumption to rape were wrongly circulated in belfast the incident triggered an angry backlash in the city with many accusing the force of participating in a culture of victim blaming the flaws claim that many sexual abuse cases happen when people are drunk and out on ways the new visuals cant protect themselves and the Police Service the leaflets have been discontinued a number of years ago is investigating why there were distributed in the 1st place and also stressed rape victims on never at fault so that wasnt good enough for many. This left that is a horrible example of victim blaming from those who are meant to protect the victim this is an issue that has come up again and again and we thought. The lesson had been Learned Police need to step away from victim blaming these leaflets that do you the police can you please get some dont be a message stop attacking women leaflets to distribute please how can you prevent a crime you routinely fail to understand with this victim blaming nonsense we discussed the fallout from the controversial fly with for British Police officer peter cook and womens rights advocate paula deen are. Always the same and the same thing happening again and again we are in 2020 and still with the this is the blaming the victim of rape but please dont blame in right for anything else what they do do and they have an absolute duty to do is provide people with Crime Prevention and personal safety advice it would be utterly ridiculous if they didnt shouldnt get drunk come on everyone knows that but why you should put that in these you know in this leaflet why you should connect this to rape sure thats the bad thing people need to avoid making themselves vulnerable to all sorts of things by drinking so much that they dont understand where they are and what theyre doing and we see every friday and saturday night in every town center but this is and how sick a is you know so this is a common sense thing for everyone as i said to you dont you shouldnt connect this to rape in order to prevent rape you should go in target to men who are violent or lets say these loud and clear you keep asking for things that are effectively the moon on the street how can the police go and find a rapist before they been a rapist and persuade them not to be a right pest it simply isnt the parson of violence there is a pattern of violence you knew know that and whether or not you hes alert the police intervene in their efforts or not helped by exaggerated and inaccurate claims by campaigners and im sorry i dont agree with. Him when he says that its exaggerated no every time we men speak its never exaggerated its finally our voices are heard you know what we have enough we have enough of this culture of this particular culture so we need to be united if you agree with me that if this is a social emergency and im talking about sexual abuse and Domestic Violence we need to find are always working together isnt helped by one party exaggerates claiming that the other party is lying there is no grounds for expert for climate pearson i will service in all of Northern Ireland are lying when i say these were old leaflets but some are through some mistake which will undoubtedly to some jury of administrative error. Why why you what grounds of youve got to sign in the Police Service of Northern Ireland the lawyer and thats basically what youre doing its not because something every this towns like an excuse im sorry im in that you should be responsible for whats your printer what you put out for how you want to stay over there and also tell us why theyre all the way and exactly which year they were written who wrote them to give us some kind of you know for more information see if its true we men there have to be louder and louder because unfortunately people in the society of politicians are the policeman they only hear our if we are allowed to be loud by all means but be accurate. The documentary explores the history of sectarian violence in on and were back in 30 minutes with the latest headlines. The world is driven by dream shaped by. The day or thinks. We dare to ask. Nuclear power become a battleground in the u. S. In vermont people love demanding the shutdown of a local plant from my yankee is right now my focus because its a very dangerous oh no care power plant the owner is attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limit this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on wheres the power in this country wheres it going is it moving more towards corporate interests or is it more in the idea of a traditional participatory democracy is power line with the people this case demonstrates that struggle in the very real ways our struggle. I think that. There. Are. Other. To. Your eyes and. Ive. Done it died. Not. The area was cordoned off and at 1st light this morning british Army Technical experts went in to examine the bodies in his they had been beat up. They do you think might be responsible. Not a single
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