Life savvy what will they just will be alive once its over to discuss that im now joined by kitty in the short minute russian political scientist and a popular you tube are you can tell its always a great pleasure talking to you thank you very much for carving out your client asking out its it is a kind of. Life balance. Where you get to see a study its a kind of going to write a song think brings a kind of that force at you so you date. And in fact i think you in particular have been talking about in merging all work and private life as a major social in a labor trance for quite sometime you gotta get me theres a go. Yeah and im sorry to say but its reached its. Unexpected average even with this onset of south isolation i wonder if you have had a chance to adjust it well on the on how do we ave a privileged people they academicians so we use to leave this way before it was mainstream oh now the have its evident that its not normal and that it shouldnt conceive you should be like that surprising me and tell me was not how easily i have adapted so there was nothing i said that to. Rather the opposite saying i suddenly realized oh maybe i should have known it before this social component of social sciences was always so much against talking sorcerers or using inside information i was always saying that its all out there in the open source says you know official documents but now i see that there is this thing and thats not Insider Information but this is being in the atmosphere with people and institutions you spread it visiting the evil behalf usually bad that used to be so cancelled so its such a long time once you are deprived a whole days youll begin to perceive how the quality of your work deteriorates while i hate to break it to you we are social species and its their lives to bookworms like yourself just as my just to everybody else now i heard me say a couple of years back that work especially a fulfilling work worrying that drains not just income but other crimes of great vacation will one day become a luxury and i think that nowadays any kind of work is actually actually a privilege especially coupled with a monday to restrictions on social and mobility how much longer do you think states around the world can afford to maintain that no god. Mountain the world has an interest in keeping its citizens flocked so they know that their virus will go by list your rules and restrictions will remain i think its a. Scare idea the governments of the world are very much interested in lifting this restrictions but they are evidently and reasonably doing this in such a way as to provoke another wave action i think we shall worry about the oncoming level of poor see if that will be faced by millions and millions or russian citizens and the people all around the world this will be cared for really. Restaurant sounds coffeeshops will come back sarah says will revive but some jobs lost will indeed be lost forever to those people who. Are the advantages of working for the state evidence right now because these people receive their salaries. But why is the staying at home period will be over this advantages will not be over this state has been primary job giver in russia since well since since a long time ago but just a 1014 the number of people directly or indirectly and debts owed to the state for their Cell Research has grown it will likely grow even more because other. Workplaces will be scarse and this is not a very good saying well at the mill state is it isnt in good shape right now and regardless of dire political system and i would claim that this is perhaps the most consequential catch 22 situation when there are simply no easy solutions but i also see a lot of a lot of distance done building up around the world and the notion that this states around the world with their. Very very few exceptions would prioritize how considerations off a very limited group of people and were talking about 10 to 15 percent of the population who this virus of claims about only the die how considerations would be prioritized over Everything Else given where we are right now gee think it was ultimately a good call on the part of a very just to you know to these people on the pedestal and ignore Everything Else dickless and they arent of the day this is an issue of priority everything has its costs and cannot be the jad she lists all the governments of the world have been acting in a remarkably similar manner as you lot is no matter whether their democracy is all talk process and this for Political Science this has been one of the remarkable things to watch and to analyze the measures have been very much similar even bill is just place them and that connects and the poor employed during this weeks crisis has very large similarities so its not a question also although horses being more a factor in a democracy has been more effective rather rational to rely on being in the same nut this you know everything weather should tell us that it is so diverse governments have the reason for acting like they act even its so great an economy and what would that be. The cost. Well. I heard you say before that the reason the wide you know states around the world were compelled to behave that way or to react the way they reacted was because of the appreciation in the value of human life and i take a major issue with that because the save lives of obit 9000 patients a likely to come and the cost of many other lives were talking about you know either patients who ran be able to travel well lifesaving treatment abroad were talking about. Domestic abuse which is likely to have increased over the stressful times were talking about people who lost their livelihoods or mental how because of the sorry deal when you look at the human cost of both the andranik and the response to compress how severely is it really such a humanistic response isnt it actually saving some and more safety in the other we can ask people for long term consequences because were going to have we dont know what would this situation be enough there were no restrictive measures and act as a whole imagine. Then it all go away and. We dont need to imagine that we can look at. The example of smith and and it is clear that at this point the number of fatalities. Is slightly higher but its not overwhelmingly so i mean we have some indications that at least you know case in areas that many people were painting and many scientists were painting and submitted to the government it may have been overstated i guess i kind of does a touch of that medical specialists are even specialists in economy but i must have an issue with a swedish example we dont even is not conscious that did nothing about it and what im is a country that did not employ legislative restrictions on its citizens until speeches all School Restaurants in stockholm are as a misleading their words and government will advise people to stay at home and a lot of them did they are also connected to the fabric of social life in northern countries is different from the country so they do have a kind of course but its uncommon dasent its not is not absolute i agree with you but its far more did very response down the blanket ban that was imposed are. Recommended in some countries now when i was thinking about it you know what into my mind is the culture this socalled phenomenon of safe it is not that we see in some us colleges which creates a moral hazard for College Administrators to overreact to every complaint from a student and we ultimately imperils agitation and Critical Thinking and i wonder if together with this common 1000. 00 pandemic were also witnessing the outbreak is not all departed governments when they think that its better to be saved and story even though distraction. You made us say its. All right youre going to say for a while us the last thread on story evolved on the kind of consequences that calm our home but when i was saying and continues to say that this matters. Around the world has been the consequences they have high value of human lives i was talking exactly about that there is a dark side even to a little higher cost of human life because even poses it imposes a certain duty on any public government so it cant just say lets let life go on as a den of the sick will get sick somebody will die will try to help those women who will lead or not with the business as usual that isnt possible they need to share that they take a stance and but be it in addition you feel on your even if this is costly. Rationally but then thats the only outsider i feared i dont have time including on the russians they dont channel these kind of argumentation but we know that this is a highly discriminate its a virus it goes primarily after people with preexisting conditions do could likely be sick and that you know type 2 diabetes is the prevailing disease among the population and i dont understand i havent heard anyone are really clearly weisel plaiting this is to decrease the population at least have a higher chance of and in that ending up in the Emergency Care units as opposed to everybody else who has either very slight or no symptoms that told you im a very wrong person to put this question to but what i say. The circumstances lets watch the consequences thats what were social site is do lets wait till the end of the quarantined measures and see how they call an eerie bounce in the healthy economy of a rebound maybe quite speedy and that the will will say thank you to it is democratic and then on the credit government that you learn to trust your actions that killed elasund. The human cost. Than everything came back normal effects of this will serve as a kind of accelerate search to an economic crisis or an economic stagnation that has already been on. Lets wait and thatll be a whole different thing in jesus christ shall we are in that you know kind of and all that and all the best all we do know how a virus but we also know how i can fix the nation problem that was there before and we shall be im president the oil. Crisis which has not begun begin to take real consequences we will see for example a sequestering all solid federal budget we will see the budget deficit in what will see if there are necessary inevitable cutting off spending of budgets or risk and if the party melon society as a whole is expecting their well it takes a how well you could do before to turn it into a full fledged profit of the hour callouses lets take your very very sure that i do know that not only being is a we have seen this things before we have survived that if you want some real article or take process you used it i could name a few names. So i dont want people back so you need the name so i didnt worry noticed. I will definitely be interested in exploring this bill but not a short break lets take an moment but we will be back in just a few seconds making. Our. Croon collapse Global Energy markets are in disarray over production low demand and lack of storage has witnessed some prices go into negative territory this is not just because of the pandemic this is the result of just policies the Energy Market may never recover. Welcome back to worlds apart from the key to getting the story and that russian political analyst economic just before the break we were talking about how common 1000 is a highly discriminative virus which primarily goes to people with preexisting conditions and speaking specifically about type 2 diabetes and other its a ball of disorders i think at this point it is absolutely clear that they called it far deadlier than it otherwise would have been and even before this dominick beast kind of diseases south is related diseases diseases all alike were already bankrupt public how care sector is in many countries because of their bowling cost for example just in the United States theyre in the federal budget goes into medicare and about their out of medicare it is child of diabetes now the question i want to ask you is about the prevailing social norms of the time being we treat how to as our tertian the issue do you think thats a sustainable social norm at a time when society is that expected to make such dramatic sacrifices to treat these diseases that are easily preventable we do not know how the virus goes off so we have a lot of data but its data so far well be able to fully gedge when its over and 2nd i would not describe any disease as its looking although of course the reason connection between yahweh is life and the way sealed as also genetics. Inclination or his inclination towards this is so its a small thing you can blame of course. On for having having made though those 2 of those deployed 2nd procedure your original questions about the mistress of its type of privacy and this is her this is very interesting thing and this is my kind of thing because its social and its political. By a policy or by a politics of the way the state or society are all the needy all the lords and early on and long who are the lords interfering so on direct your physical. What things are allowed and what opera she had been doing. With your body or was a body off your loved ones with your children how far can a pair of judge for example with a look to vaccinate their child. Before that weve been all of this our general liberal drop off our my body my decision and if i harm myself a way of making this decision is yes again its not wrong its melting isnt the fear with me society even liberal society it made as told after their parents relations course 4 on the one hand a week to perceive the family as past as safe have privacy at the same time we as a society cannot tolerate the full parental power over a child the power of other from merely a small aroma base as we do interfere our society and our legislative systems interfere but it comes to you and you face all Development Well this jail house now this is the logical say for to is perceived as a kind of public goods to be defended by the force the full force of the lawyers forcing states is interesting how this things will develop but where we may be sure the day will develop maybe we will see. See for example for moments a risk in Public Places as a customary thing as we have no. Safe its a restrictions on the measured service and now were what we got years during the last 20 years that reading search area search oh yes we go straight. To airports at any public location maybe well see the same kind of frames that will measure our got a temperature or maybe you are an arab by the way because this is one of the. Major factors risk factors. Aliquot still diseases including call it 98 its a major risk factor it is by weight what you put in your bio. Is not going to be on li your decision is or isnt going to be at least inquire the matter of society because and the end of the day you ask a society to pick up the bill for your damage how in later years well you may recoil at how the number of scandals wrap so its a recently about high prices for airplane tickets 14 waiting over. Actual grams and it was it was a whole host of public questions whether companies have the right to charge a high price is what its such a meal with its discrimination or not and now its that that was an innocent debate. And now it becomes a whole new. Next step the question the real question is the question off policy measures how do you. Know those things that you think beneficial for society do you find people who are waiting more again as i said on cigar or do you know if you teach children how thiel lifestyle and teach every a school child to cook for example. And in this way you try to make us a side you tell. Me what the line between the lines between christmas and democracy even make it into a distinction between the talkers in democracies and yet me know that democracies on days from the most. Paralyzed i mean the challenge of raising the United States from call bit by to the is the highest in the world and its the highs in this age mid to high straights of business and i heard you say recently that consumer is we just very directly related to the consumerism is here just a comment 19 is gone is not going to kill it and at the center of consumerism is a sick mix of well likely and perhaps mentally. Compromised individual that requires a lot of services when we talk about the value of human lives is that to really be conduct live that we have to cherish that me ask you aspire to protect you know that the United States which means a lot spends a lot on how care is on the verge of bankruptcy its health care is on the verge of bankruptcy because its not sustainable there are doctors who are talking about dementia as types 3 diabetes because many diabetics go on to develop dementia and if you imagine you know this whole population of diabetics and many people who are children will have to take carol i think its a question of intergenerational you know soul and tired and sharon is why should our children take care and pay for our excesses you imagine always children the general generational. As just this very Healthy People who want have any disabilities themselves and our children are the beneficiaries of this society which allows people to survive which helps people with various sorts of disabilities to adapt to the common bars of society so we can get. Very best to aspire to and to do you feel when you were born. With a 100 percent says that theyre not going to be can also go im sure a solution of personal responsibility and stating that you owe your own good how to not only to yourself but also to society because at the end of the day basis and easily preventable problem you know we cant talk about authoritative psyches but not authoritarian can actually control what you put into your mouth its only now control if it ensures very rare you you know like you change a lot of money both to unite the state and also make people understand that this understanding do you want me to dk tional program not as system off fines and on the police measures that was my point yes the society is going to be a while and while diverse also in terms of house and sums of your narrow set were not going to change that were not going to have an area of the long healthy young people were going to have a lot of people on that a healthy no young. They are all a competitor as they are also citizens of yes they are sound workers they contribute to society and they demand. From the side but they also contribute so this is the reality we are going to lead and were not going to make everybody house but we have as you say makes you have by by as i would say educating that i would very much argue in favor of changing data occasional programs even in the gardens and schools the younger of the children the better we do not teach them enough well we dont teach them at all meaning. Of its functioning well theyre all the body and the importance also as you say what they put you know their house i thin