So there was a marketplace restraint that is gone now they dont need eyeballs with the targeted advertising with the surveillance that is the norm to the internet they can get all the readers of the New York Times without putting an ad in the New York Times so the Business Model is broken and its just become a playground for the rich or for people who want to influence opinion they can buy the soul trash and newspapers and so thats thats the bad part of it theres absolutely no free market restraint there is nothing of that so on on the other hand as long as we have Net Neutrality the very instrument that killed journalism is a model the internet is also quite liberating and that you know i did have to dig i now i have sheer posts and im able to interview you for example at the modern Technology Gives us a lot of voices out there which is why they want to smash Net Neutrality and centrist saying everybody talks about contests and imus and b. C. And these i want to ships as if they have no politics but the fact is you know theyre the people who dont want the extra net to be free they dont like to comp this united parents their profit model but right now we have a great opportunity to talk to reach people to question. And you know and so again its the best and worst of all times its the model that the fountains had in mind for a free press which i would remind you when they wrote that into the constitution you dont have to have a lot of money to be oppressed you didnt have to be a white guy probably with some means but you can. Any printer driver if you will or your like you know champaign he was a wild radical but you know he had an affair with printers right. Thats what happened well you know your journalism has stood as a shining star in a lot of big moments you know you were against the iraq war from the start and continue to put forward the crazy idea that there were no weapons of mass destruction there and more recently your previous outlet truthdig was one of the few progressive outlets to stand up against rush again hysteria and question the the mainstream Neil Mccarthy s narrative which has now completely collapsed how hard is it to push back against those narratives when you really the entire National Security state and theyre still not refers in the Corporate Media are trumpeting that viewpoint nonstop. Well theyre going to lose you know because its totally irrational and now it is shifting to china putin doesnt make a good target and so hard to do red baiting without a read you know and then youre just was reading the i need to view a lot of people in russia i was there for the l. A. Times when gorbachev was there and i read his book on perestroika from moscow news and from the l. A. Times and you know that was the end of russian communism in full came in as a basically whatever his background everybody or russia had something to do with the r. T. But the fact is he came from the leningrad group and he was a reformer d and he was the choice i was there at and they hes the one day position and everybody forgets who ran and is the one who defeats the communist party that remains and russia is an anticommunist is you going to brace the u. S. The docks religion and so forth so he makes a lousy enemy china. Is still a communist country you know and so is vietnam by the way by a communist party but date as opposed to our image of communism as an International Conspiracy they are quite nationalistic and as a result there theres tension between the 2 while now putin has decided not pollutants are. You know trump has decided to take on china because russia is not a good enough target in discontinuous is the establishment because we need china as a factory floor for the world and so forth and so its very confusing and he seized upon this a pandemic as an excuse for having a new kind of red baiting waynes actually got a red its got a communist party the trouble with from yunus our better recap what it was and then we are and the really shocking thing of this damage is that they have organized more effectively to deal with it and take care of their people and just about everybody in the world has done better than american capitalism in. The liberal Health Service taking care of the population we have the worst record right now and thats a bank black mark against our system and the idea that we were arguing about medicare for all and Bernie Sanders very Reasonable Health Care things now seems absurd when you have at the center of the most advanced medical system in america new york you have the center of this vast tragedy so i think this is a great teaching moment and the folly of the new cold war is it didnt have sense when you didnt have wrestle who is certainly makes no sense when you have these communist capitals in china who are better at doing capitalism then we are yeah and you know unless people forget the pivot towards asia go really against asia started under obama because they were fearing you know chinas economic influence and and theyre gaming the gaming on us 59000. 00 americans for just have memorial day die supposedly stopping communism in vietnam and we wasted you know we killed what between 4 and 5000000 indochinese people ok were killed in that war and what happened we lost in that war the most ignominious defeat and communist china communist vietnam went to war and invaded said now who i am right now when if there is talk about getting apple out of china or dead American Companies they want to go to communist vietnam so these labels were exterior back then theyre absolutely not so now what he was describing you know and ill give you one little anecdote when i interviewed when i reviewed gorbachev smoke in moscow from moscow news i quoted from the communist manifesto where karl marx wrote that praising capitalism drag me in the ne a syrah life and building these great cities and so forth and hugo yakovlev a great honor to this city to have a so that i said give me your communist manifesto he didnt have one so i had to run around moscow i found one. Trench i ran back into the parent jill meagher and the Congress Manager oh so here it is you know so much of. It. You know you mentioned the the vietnam war i heard a horrifying statistic the other day that the Vietnam Memorial wall is you know a few 100 feet long because its got every every american who died in the vietnam war if it were actually included all the names of the vietnamese who died in the vietnam war in our vietnam war then it would be 4 miles or so long so or 8 miles Something Like that man is several miles long but instead its just a few 100 feet because we only include the americans but i wanted to you know i want to talk about i dont want to run out of time i wanted to mention that you have interviewed every president from Richard Nixon all the way through bill clinton and it seems like every 4 years we end up in these this this crazy lesser of 2 evil debate that just seems endless i mean right now were literally deciding between a and old rich white man with racist policies and Sexual Assault allegations against him and donald trump i mean they have a lot in common trump and biden and i just want your thoughts on this this lesser than 2 evils debate we end up in every 4 years moments goes back to the red baiting that became the big compound for the Democratic Party the fact is see 1st of all donald trump was a creation of the establishment ok you know i. Know the Mainstream Television everything i didnt go to get invited to his wedding jewelry clinton and bill clinton went to his wedding and you know so he was you know far right back there you know d and and what happened was he built up a right wing demagogic position which basically involves racism and aiding the only people that really work hard all the time in our country which are the doctor. It workers just ethnic bashing as an excuse to protect dominant capital and the really powerful rich people who created the housing meltdown for example it was all done to wall street and it was done through the regulation of bill clinton going along with the republicans and in the new deal restraints on wall street i wrote a book called the Great American stock up its all in there and so what happened is that when hillary ran she couldnt define herself as a populist what you needed which is what you have been very sad those are Elizabeth Warren and he said she tried to say we have no problems its just these deplorable is going to trump and will notice a lot of pain in america and affects one people also a lot of them one for trump and also by the way affected brown and black people much more the great victims of bill clintons deregulation was very well for example with Federal Reserve tells us that College Educated black people know a 70 percent of their wealth not their annual income you know whoa wealth and brown people lost 60 percent they lost their homes they were sold a sucker mortgages and everything what you hear is well i didnt say you know if you dont accept me youre not youre not a black person but the real issue was a new thread baby and thats why our early discussion is relevant because senator Hillary Clinton is saying look ive got to disagree with my husbands fall cs even though i was there ive got it was you know even challenging obamas policies because what did obama do he bailed out wall street didnt have a moratorium on foreclosures he didnt help people stay in their own so he took all of that money and gave it sort of and what did Hillary Clinton by was she very angry with Julian Assange should Edward Snowden what did you and sometimes reveal he revealed what she said member Bernie Sanders said you must be given some great speeches for 3 quarters of a 1000000. 00 you know 20 minute speeches each and and we now know thanks to a claim is that Julian Assange gave us that material. You know who we can do to learn sitting you know with Lloyd Blankfein one of the architects of the whole wall street us all she says you guys are so smart you have to come with me to washington to fix these economic problems and thats what was revealed thats at the heart of russia that is it you know what were the big c. Rist a big influence had nothing to do with numbers in that provinces and screwing around the internet and had to do with real it revealing up to desk that who was up to his eyeballs in all this stuff was out to attack bernie and undermine him and it revealed the content of Hillary Clintons shameless speeches to wall street where she defended and she said what a smart guy youll know how to fix this problem will donald trump was running on the pain of ordinary americans who had lost their houses who weve had no improvement of income equality and since clinton was president in a little bit at time we have a lot of suffering out there for all people why brown black male female what have you Hillary Clinton was tone deaf she did not address it said went for the big money from wall street was there darling and as a result of disinterested noble populist this tohu just a trunk could pose as a populous used to right wing rhetoric and actually you know do something nobody expected going to actually win you can argue about the electoral vote this thing that the amazing thing is that this guy was able to repopulate and it was because we didnt have a progressive well turn it were going to go a populous progressive alternative and once again they that we united to destroy granny who you know what everybody forgets democratic socialism which they hung around its neck you know thats supposed to be the opposite of the communist model you know most of the people who ran western europe and brought it to prosperity whether it was really brought or any of these people were democratic socialists and you know. Somehow the Democratic Party united around making democratic socialism an ugly term well new new deal of Franklin Roosevelt was democratic socialism all. The rocks f. D. R. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was our hero and all we never wanted to do was bring back the spirit of franklin Delano Roosevelt and the democratic stablish we want your word for to go to a short break but check out my Award Winning a podcast common censored and my new book bullet points and punch lines you can get it at least camp book dot com ill be right back a lot more. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to heal some air force base in alaska where is that to say come on ill show you whats the reason for any type of enhanced u. S. Military presence in this area russia. What is it suddenly about the South China Sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. Take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on the story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. Part of something is better than 100 percent of nothing and so losing money has is part of the Money Laundering model as a model a Business Model. We look at these unicorns these startups and Silicon Valley like the ones you mentioned we work. The way its fair to burrow. We were list theyre all losing money exponentially so many after. Well maybe the model is to lose money and so theres laundering the Money Laundering the money. We said. Is enough. But im also the most companies you know ive been there gives the seed of the. Emotional when i meet. People in the school you know he goes from did you know just to see. You know i called. Someone on the. Machine that you kind of this. Kid is. The. Go to come to you in the studio. So to. Speak is the. Welcome back im still lead camp without further ado the rest of my interview with journalist and author Robert Scheer you wrote an outstanding book titled the pornography of power that really breaks down the military Industrial Complex and how it turned into the runaway monster that it now is you know the state of budget of our military is over 730000000000. 00 thats the stated budget not even the. Black budget and that accounts for 40 percent of Global Military spending one country is 40 percent of the military spending in the world do you see any difference between the 2 parties on that front end and what will it take to slow or stop the gravitational pull of this mass murder machine. Ok well listen probably destroy what remains of my career. Among a martini and im going to say a kind word about trunk and that mix trust me i know its a trumpet and d. I you know i live in california where we are totally dependent upon the best group in our entire population were just people who come from mexico crystal they didnt even come as laura serato said i didnt cross the border the border crossed me so we are actually living in what should be mexico and thanks we have this incredibly productive population that does everything raises the kids does the work that it does everything there is no you cant have a day without a Mexican American or mexican or of some emigrant clearly on every level but the fact of matter is he played the racist neofascist card hes very dangerous im not going to minimize that the road the truck is going down is one of religious hatred racism its the straps people and leads them battle i would mean by neo fascists is an extremely dangerous model why do way it works and im not going to do german baiting care as far as from germany because so is mine and it took the most advanced civilized educated population down the path of the greatest barbarism of modern history so we know where fascism goes at it but the problem is you cant defeat it by denying that there are problems that thats the whole issue and when you look at what the democrats want to get messed with by and if they put another biden type person in the Vice President my goodness you know maybe if they did Elizabeth Warren or bernie you know at least to say ok theres some little checks here but the fact in barrier is joe biden has stood for imus goes back to your point about the military budget hes been for the biggest military budget and i would least i dont trump has question you know. Efficacy of all of his military spending you know so what you need is a big enemy and the real reason for anger with putin is that he did not play that role you know we want an enemy and theyre not good at it you know he keeps talking about arms control he thinks its a loser the chinese are worse as an enemy because they really want that silk road they want trade they believe in capitals dragonfly you know putin does but its more of a cartel capitalism has not gotten its a click yet but the chinese model is one that is really threatening to the apologist for the american empire because theyre coming along saying hey we all want to play here you know the pakistanis want to play a