A steady diet of healthy skepticism as well as paranoid delusion from legitimate questions regarding the violations of privacy that could arise from the mass implementation of Contact Tracing to the lunacy of questioning whether the virus is actually real and while many of these skepticism are a healthy response to potentially dangerous need jerk reactions by Public Officials or corporate stooges looking to make a buck there disaster capitalism others tragically are not instead they would fall into the world of Snake Oil Salesmen looking to squeeze some fame and profit off the paranoia and fear a crisis can bring and its out of those crossroads where controversy is born and today nothing appears to be more controversial than the words and work of dr judy mccovey its and can have been lively whose new book plague of corruption restoring faith in the promise of science has shot up the bestseller lists of the New York Times and amazon while at the same time inspiring the flames. Skepticism and paranoia on both sides of the covert 19 and vaccination debates so today lets take a trip down to those crossroads of controversy and start watching the hawks. If you want to go on a city street you want to. See this. State also. Great city desolate systemic deception is so much. So joe. Welcome everybody to watching the hawks. And i dont know and joining us today is the authors of one of the most controversial books released in the time of covert 90 plag of corruption restoring faith in the promise of science and joining us today is jodi dr judy mccall but some come back and lively thank you both so much for coming on today id tell you guys are been a swirl of controversy a maelstrom i cant imagine what youre going through at this point. There are many. And can did you have any idea going into writing this book what that to make of it that the book would end up being published during the height of a Global Pandemic and become a hot selling controversial book. Never imagined that never imagined this coated in 1000 epidemic but. And we finished working on it basically in july you know its actually be released in november so getting released in april during the height of the ep and that was really remarkable we knew our book would be controversial and you know this is our 2nd book together our previous one was published in 2014 it was very popular but no reaction in the Mainstream Press so really thrilled that its got this kind of reaction and were hopeful that we get people to. In science and i you know thats the thing is i want to when i was able to have you both on the show and were able to get you on the show you know you guys about a lot of critiques of the book youve got a lot of people said you know i use of this you know they made these claims so i want to ask you about some of those things that people have laid at your feet saying hey this is not true or have accused you of essential reading up and causing problems in dr mccomas in the book as well as in the interview for him in every did for the documentary terror documentary plan democrat one of the many viewpoints that a lot of medical experts and publications are taking issue with as your assertion that wearing a mask can get you sick in the film plan demick they are quote you are saying wearing the mask literally activates your own virus or getting sick from your own reactivated coronavirus expressions and if it happens to be sars cope to the new got a big problem now as i said many scientists doctors and Media Outlets have unequivocal or stated that there is no evidence to support your claim i want to ask you how do you respond to their criticism. Lack. Of evidence now critically starting with hiv its not just your very strong a virus is that you may have. I way of vaccines over and over your i s. As i may be used to grow that act beings monkey dogs. Down in the annual flu vaccine. Around and you also have 80 percent of your viral is in digest late. John or meant by or says and when you immune suppress the mask immune suppresses it suppresses your memory for t. Cell responses their publications on mash it causes a after wearing a while like a lactic acidosis your breathing actually back your seo to your gift. Driving yourself of oxygen and this is immune suppressive activates those dormant viruses those 8 percent and your return or youre very right in time storms that are attributed to these stars coronavirus 2. Point on. The mask and the immune suppression the lack of vitamin d. I respond that theres decades of science supporting what i said and many investigators around the world since that time effort i did mean published paper after paper saying youre exactly right this. Thing that would like i mean is that something that could occur you know when someone just puts on a mask to go to the Grocery Store and back or is this something that could occur over a long term i mean you know is there like a time frame he was thats its pretty incredible if you where theres a new going to stick or you know is that something that people are going to experience just going back and forth to their store when they do put on the mask or is this something that like over time youre going to see Something Like that. Not only not. In Healthy People its not a. Very people who are among the grim. In. Been. Tracked down. Or who worked for ford in. Fact there. Was there was the grim act. Or think or the girl. Who was bringing. Along the record. For our. Children. In america have as i have been. Trying out for. Are insisting. That. All men yours is. The man who got you. Can your book and dr mike of its claims have been used by many in the key one on movement and many supporters of President Trump and other politicians to excuse Major Political bell years and actions that allow kobe 19 to claim so many lies should people be using you and dr make if its work to excuse the failures a politician. You know i really dont know how to answer that what we try and do is follow where the evidence goes and you know as far as it being that coming from the political motive i just point out the fact that robert f. Kennedy jr it wrote the forward to our books that you know i kind of say you know theres nobody more democratic than robert f. Kennedy jr judy is compelling its hali area its lean on political im tend to be more conservative but this is certainly like and everybody on board approached i know i dont think that its the left or right but i think its just trying to get to the truth. Imagine and do about it cause us that theyre going to like to see a lot of people kind of jumping on saying like oh i want to take what this person is saying and kind of politicize it in the moment is to excuse x. Y. And b. You know thats why you know you see that happen a lot across the board in here you know its interesting one more fascinating parts of the book article which you accuse the age or just the d. O. J. On the f. B. I. Of destroying your career and your reputation how exactly did these agencies tarnish you and your work and do you have the evidence to back up this because things. That we now have on the nuclear or 400. 00 and theyre going. I know where. I was you know falsely arrested for refusing to cover up the raw data data proof of our surgeons over you know our work of the past decade showing how heavily contaminated the blood supply was with mouse related and contagious cancer causing viruses monkey cancer causing viruses dont most papers were published east publications be inflammatory those cytokine storms we see in government those career of more than 50 patients spirit being exactly the mechanisms of how these things because diseases so the journals and when i use it to. Or cover up with statistics these data the journal science literally went on a 2 or 3 year which on to 1st of all i was falsely arrested in november of nov 18th of 2019 where upon the next day the science while im held in jail with no bail with no possibility of bail without a lawyer without any due process for 5 days here is the journal science publishing on november 19th 2011 that in fact there were no warrants i was arrested on felony charges of being a fugitive from justice and nobody could identify a local agency either in ventura where i live or any existed in reno nevada where supposedly my crimes occurred and they that the journal reported correctly that the warrants must have been submitted by some federal agency controlling this nobody ever had a warrant yet it and i ate from that time on an international answer institute i was held on those it said if i step down and i are in a laboratory to perform the studies replicating our work that i would be arrested so im reported to have performed those studies to have not been able to replicate my work and in fact its its a character assassination and those agencies the warrants were there 20165 years later they were still there it says im not well any fugitive from justice and i shouldnt same warrants i should j. Say those paper false charges on which my career and my life this growing and i think theres more poor were back in one. Corner and if i can just if i can john in their own beds so i have a background on some attorney and so you know ive been on judys case for 10 years and. And the d thing that has been amazing i was at her turning but i spoke with her attorneys ive looked at all the evidence and her arrest in the 2011 as without any cause you know her booking form and ventura had no charges and the warrant was just like you said it was she was a few different justice but you have to have an underlying crime like even a parking ticket nothing like it wasnt signed by the judge or a stamp by the University Rather arena which where which where some very powerful people had previously employed uni so you know what we also have to say is that you do spend over half a 1000000. 00 on legal fees trying to get a day in court her claim was how under 0 for 3 years by the by the state of nevada she has met with the f. B. I. On multiple occasions given them all the evidence has asked them to prosecute so this is not somebody who is i mean she is such a Straight Arrow ive known her for 10 years and you know she was the most honest person ive ever come across and i sometimes i think that i think the thank you and i thing i think that i got to say thank you so much for coming on today i think anybody you know people should go out check out the book make up their own come to their own conclusions but you always have to read the book 1st before you jump to conclusions the same with anything that you hear in the media supply do very much again theres a plague of corruption restoring faith in the promise of science jutted dr judy mike of its and can happen live we thank you so much for coming on today. Thanks for having us and. Art as we go to break remember you can also start watching the hawks on the man through the brand new portable t. V. App which is available now on all platforms coming up on how you bring us the latest on the nasa space x. Launch and from the job as the latest information on the race for covert 19 vaccinations they are watching the. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Isolation or community. Are you going the right way or are you being led somewhere. Direct. What is true watch is faith. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or a maybe in the shallowness. Od no team no crowd. No shots no. Action just belt speak up. Well its true no 1st. Points your thirst for action. Ah no team no crowd. No shots no. Action just belts because. You know well its true no 1st. Points your thirst for action. Baltimore maryland is known for its diversity both n. F. L. Team and produces one of the best t. V. Series a modern history the wire baltimore is also home to americas world renowned Johns Hopkins hospital but despite having many great traits the city has been plagued by scandal drugs and violence the Police Relationship with the black community is fractured at best gun violence has overtaken much of the city and the black and blue divide couldnt be greater Common Ground or shared experience arent typically things that come to mind when you think of black kids growing up in the hood and the white kids who grew up to believe them but dig deeper in a much anticipated new article 2 men from baltimores a rough and tumble east side one a young black man and the other a white cop crossed paths in an interesting way in his latest piece only a mile and a big world separated us author of the walk and outlines his baltimore experience juxtaposed with that of discrete Baltimore Police officer danny herself joining us now is author and editor at large the lawn dot com. Welcome to. They wont thank you then youre going to have me youre always a pleasure to be so your article delves into some of the gritty its parts of your life and upbringing in baltimore it paints a picture of life at the center of the world drugs what that environment was like for you and how you view how you were viewed by the outside world and you just suppose this with her soul who grew up not too far away but had what you described as a system that traditionally rewards mediocre whiteness yet he had a tragic downfall where you excelled what do you attribute this to. The system you know everything that had gone against me he kind of the head on for him so you know so my son my son a fair street one side of history could argue over you can go to jail for. Up in the street and on his side. If he was going to jail or if you got if you got a lot that a lot of times people go to prison. Discipline you where you have a clean record and then when they do you can be a lot guys like me. You know its interesting because because i think just so people understand is what kind of a guy was her soul was a colleague what was he charged with what was he convicted of like who was this guy. So as crazy because talking to his family and talking to his friends i think that he was a regular Police Officer type of Police Officer who wouldnt knock a couple of people off and. People want to streets maybe studio 50. 00 maybe to 100. 00 outlets but it wasnt Something Like that with these guys probably going to trace task force and then he started working on a way to teach is that you are. Actually still real money if you will from a knock you over the 50 type of guy who was looking 4101520000 i was so easy like a hes showing your record. To be a part of a criminal enterprise the head. Kind of bad to use the bass to go out and commit crimes and the christening of the backlash in the aftermath of all this is a lot of the it was that all of this is that it was bad it was and as i always say if its a few bad apples you know where all these great cops out here seem to friends are doing and i said anything to the feds that then you know theres a good side to go through great pain as a scribe or so a former Baltimore Police officer turned convicted felon you humanized him in many ways in the our you know in the piece you also outlined the abuses police regular pos theyre threatening behavior as you mentioned they are lawful searches at one point you mention a cop telling you that you were nothing nothing how did these exams that i was personal how did this experiences shape the lens with which you saw and in choosing to write this article what you saw. You know screams even if you accept because i could not write this article early in my career oh god now though ive been around enough and a lot of conversations with officers millions from thai officers im going to chance to really look at my own life journey through the lens of a guy you know just when. You know im out of stuff so looking back at it i think that. Early in my career what i wrote about a Police Officer is i didnt even think about the human side because they were human they were because of how to treat me and are friends now the older i have more experience it is up i have the room i have. To say to the way things happen to me theyre force me to make bad decisions and do bad things its kind of similar to the same things that happen today to force them to make bad decisions or do bad things its like ive got the luxury of being a scholar of these different books and traveling to all these different places and studied Different Things maybe if and im not im that senate he gets a pass for what he did because i still feel like its a terrible person but maybe academically if he was able to be able to have some of the experiences that ive had the maybe the way he put their black the way he looks at black people would be different the way to look at his job in himself in the context of what hes actually here to do would be different and you probably want to be in general i know. Andy ive read this piece now probably 3 times and i think why reveal it and its amazing quite revealing and you didnt you werent speaking for like that out of out of corners you dug deep speaking about your own experience and participation in the drug game what was your motivation for including that part. Because i think as a narrator it gives it gives me more credibility to be able to talk about you know im not perfect im not a perfect person i can sit on my perch you know because i sit back and i work with these young people and i do just really good work i cant sit back and act like ive never done the wrong things so people need to know what ok well hes made mistakes and he realized the error in his ways and he works really hard to change that. Difference between a person is that he still hes nice hes a gentleman right now still writing letters to the local newspaper the Baltimore Sun some of them that hes innocent even though there is mountains of mountains of evidence a lot of which are some of our hes guilty and thats just a difference of people who need to know where i was coming from and. So he can really understand why im qualified to make these are you know we got a little bit of time what were her sole arrest of the entire family based on a young rappers you tube video he used his power to attack the black community unlike most cops he actually didnt get away with it and 28 team as we mentioned he was convicted and sent to prison for schemes to rob people and cut drug deals and other crimes was this a level for Police Accountability was there any accountability that came