And the potential Foreign Policy differences under a bi ministration will also talk about how many major American Cities are on track to receive an influx of federal Law Enforcement even after seeing protesters getting shelled into secret police vans. First here is anders lees interview with Norman Finkelstein mr vaghul stand by given joining us here for having me on i want to begin by asking about recent developments or non developments if you will in israel at the start of the summer Prime Minister netanyahu had planned to annex a large portion of the occupied west bank a little beginning on july 1st but so far israel has been executed on this why do you think that its. A big leap to reducing the. Number of. Those on d the map stick to the one so the israel was distracted Prime Minister. In the history of the code. Or since or. Our legal problems swarms are there. Learned that there is a case tending in the International Criminal court regarding through those crimes in the west bank and gaza spanking East Jerusalem and gaza and right now where the shore a critical decision or was coherent true charo cheering for in this case and. Who. Goes ahead with an extension it will almost certainly result in criminal court washing and investigation into early crimes. So i think hes. Sincere speculation. My guess is. The foreign minister. This is from the master. Of those targets are. Inserting. The old way of the. U. C. C. Since you. Well speaking of the i. C. C. Your most recent book entitled i accuse is about the International Criminal court i was wondering if you could give us some insight as to how the i. C. C. Avoids investigating israel for International Law violations. Some very uncommon here and it is tearing through a situation right know that im not sure how many of those who actually. And sometimes. Charges next and so you can and you can stuff in the guards who herald the. There are only 21 the 2 were quote situations for the International Criminal court that shirt suits you where you should serve to these rules so may 2010 the humanitarian convoy those are gone. And theyre not injured immediately and then 10 injured d later on. The im seeing cinci secure and soon. Dismissed the situation the referral its cold and sinister refer to browns. Insists ition gras to be tomorrow and then our a. C. C. Need investigation there are several stages in our e. C. C. In sequence for instance the preliminary examination 2nd is the investigation for a minute for. The trial when there were no. The 2 cases before the incident. From the never union examination. The 2nd one what it was. Called the state of house. And. Refers who is really crimes in the west bank. Settlements. Crimes in go and so. On an instruction jury operation for terror. For a team here the prosecutor for reasons i wont go into no lets appearances she switched some points instead some warning israel shes not supporting the palestinians. And this case you asked how do you get her out and i can see you see the geisha especially given the men and the who is really crimes and the arabs where you get into technicalities i dont see see is not a universal core. Its based on jurisdiction being you know and you needed ready to know who are my instincts so that they may for example who go in the i. C. C. And say we have a situation youre in want you to investigate. Crimes. Crimes of aggression brought against you not of the. Have occurred here or a state can join and. Then make a referral based on the situation and thats not. The evidence since another thing and just thus far in this thing and now the questions come forward who are is howards. And its not its knowing it cant name her and the 2nd remaining question is whether more. I. C. C. In unison has an youre its notion its just a request. To action sorry is your estimation the question then is jurisdiction over what her if a crime committed in a. Area now its not really in the states jurisdiction then they can refer crime to i mean c c so the question is why does the terrorist its not me and thats where murder is currently 7. And she prosecutors. Its my considered opinion. Palestine it is a state. So so might consider. The territory of the state is there were spent on experience alone. However her i really no evidence that the so i didnt. Name the territory is controversial its true it was you know claiming. The entire or her. Territory so she was. PreTrial Chamber just basically the core. Of the core the judges. So she charitable and he see them through Trial Chamber right and out of this is. The end of august well hear what the t. C. Does seem one of the preacher sites. Is their farm a motel or her. Also the p. P. Seeing maybe his aim to weigh in on the question is. A state. Well on the question of of the state or not a state of palestine youve been a longtime supporter of a 2 state solution and youve also been critical of those in the b. D. S. Movement who support one by National State citing among other things Public Opinion im wondering if i could get a reaction to the recent piece in the New York Times by peter biner to a mainstream voice or certainly was at one point calling for one biNational State has Public Opinion started to shift on this issue and has your opinion changed. Him or her in the end there is no basis in the current. Forces for instance who should start i dont see any difference is in the globe who most who. Are responsive. Responsive to. The men who see. Locals who are those. Its not its more bird who. Is entirely. An option but at least there is a willingness among the International Community to entertain the r. And b. I dont see any movements there anymore and. Not surprisingly the us is not supported by the russian. And we shouldnt try to trim the side by making it amenable or our will to western or its this important ones. That need to and he. Or she smokes and its a routine so far as i can discern from what hes written he supports one. In which jews have equal rights but its in our state it is very adamant there. And shoes are far and so. And its our. Mission to the same. Right its not right its not exactly that were but they dont have the saying and i dont know im into that and its the indigenous population so he supports one. In which your equal rights but its not their state. By marriage to him and its important. All and i mean you know as you. And me design isnt indicated sitting there. Now and zionism as an ideology as he gets among american jews. Those who are. And they get a protracted war but anyone. Can go on for years and years and years. More of course or so and then the community property. Says no call. So if youre going to try ringback its another step in the. Alienation of strange men. Astray shooting also the porch or the floor or the stranger in the merchant ship to some. Of the other boat warmest even their truth. There is no one to stay or to stay under this was a good chunk there right now the only thing in the political agenda is one and the. Other says shouldnt tune in. To believe in my opinion those grown weaker there still will be putting on. Everything the inhuman illegal immoral. Or criminal. Got an item on the agenda and insert the operatives small numbers in our them to mobilize their own israels. Investigation and hopefully indictment by the International Criminal court though they are totally. On you just the sort of see a movie one much to a 2 state agree with. They are. Meaningless destruction we have to go to a short break but just about are that all were back to tonight episodes are available on the free streaming app portable t. V. At that portable t. V. Flashed out low and all the segments of our shows are Still Available at youtube dot com flashback to tonight but for the full episodes go to portable t. V. Also to join our free email west had the word were gak that. 33777 ill be right back with more. A more robust war over wont be one in which we move business as usual but guess what. Weve prepared for. A lot cheaper reduced mobility its a lot cheaper than having. The sudden fullest and illegal takeover of a government by a small group. So rather than revolution results soldiers could that small group the corporations when you have a tiny group of people who have all the power you have to have some means to make sure the rest of us dont get together and take it back. These are sacrificing some places that capitalism exploited and destroyed for profit and left behind misery poverty environmental devastation and so you see things like Voter Suppression building more prisons you seem gerrymandering all sorts of undemocratic practices for wealth use of that world for wealth for the stroke theres no question that the. Same wrong. Roles just dont all. Let me. Get to shape out of disdain become educated and in the game equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart. Just to look for common ground. Join me everything on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business im showbusiness ill see them. Right. Welcome back to redact its an i. V. I paid im Natalie Miguel and fairly cap now we go to the rest of andor lees interview with Norman Finkelstein sly i want to get your thoughts on one Political Force or someone who certainly was a Political Force at one time and thats an old nemesis of yours Alan Dershowitz for those who arent familiar you debated him on democracy now and exposed a book of his being largely fraudulent and profit plagiarized and then surely coincidentally you happened to be denied tenure a couple years later whats your reaction to his recent fall from grace in light of his relationship with geoffrey epstein. The low crime sure if you want more money suppose i dont turn again the particular. Jerram expression of this show and. The pleasure from some of the oh. So torment. Tend to be imposed and very far. There are things that. Serve the poor well for him for me is there. Nothing you. Or i mean the news of the war its. Not. You know these are connected and so in appeals he knew the right people to contact the press was a good appeals where im told he isnt public where you take a shit if youre going to be appeals or. I was in a certainly by virtue of the start of this perjury you know its being senior most professor ringback skeel and starts there. Are more school and it was dubbed header in. A shoreham and more minutes in the former made his reputation no more look for free on extinction came along the floor he was swapping for donald trump the guy was a complete already. You know was a logical argument there in the whole were in all books. Including me just chronically in the audience the incessant nonstop. Well i mean its that i dont accept his your intention of harm her. Heart in any way publicly distance itself from anything he said its nonsense why not just line and trim you know not hers that was using his name in cool or when palestinians were mean to archer and he in using his name and using instead of 3 to not syria was engaging in torture hes personally whole by his ashen its for the torture anyhow its neocons but seem clear about the facts and i dont know if thats very well. President there she once is never and still are carrying wired similarly lawyer thats all just nonsense every time. Hes in should noons i have any program hes the same this is similar in means a lawyer really can show me this record in civil or a means ive gone through everything hes rare. Im just a reader this through so little or no you are a few weeks which will be classified under the it should so anyone who arent varies is there any better thing out its the best the surgeons everything needs there is no record of support and Civil Liberties now have the right to defend the few morons to some classes for it as a similar period. Since the word perry and i once were everything is relative each to me did a pro bono or financially basis youre in her case you know. Still on the op and you claimed i dont know how much there is no i never asked angela davis whether it was true but he clearly i mean are my right side and. You know h. M. O. s koenigs there are things he wins about things and who ignores many big claims about being about in the 60s. Many patients and there are you about the most famous who are were in concert or miserably so. Its not the truth its all of this in the bouncer who you can see his commitment to Civil Liberties now hes suing everybody for libel to try to stop you know the chaser interest cd its gotta see him get his comeuppance but you issue is maybe for the full scope of his is misstates from all over the euro. Im not. Surely live to the moon these are real. Anything or mean or worse or women. Think. You. Really do have to wait for them. Or you may be or rio. The shots are in. Israel im shouldnt trivialized on the road where i live im sorry we could go on for 4 hours but i want to thank you for joining us to really appreciate it long time all of yours Norman Finkelstein thank you very much you up for this white house has a special back and making a tense situation even worse as evidenced by the presence of federal troops in cities like Portland Oregon and new york city to round up protesters an unmarked van but while what the leaders across the country publicly decree they use the federal troops some of those same leaders to welcome a federal Law Enforcement presence with open arms under a White House Initiative called operation relentless pursuit. And while operation relentless pursuit sounds more like what Brett Kavanaugh nicknamed his friends when they tried picking up women at parties its actually a White House Initiative to add even more police to over policed cities to address Violent Crime and Drug Trafficking in fact about 2 weeks before the death of george floyd in minneapolis our government began doling out money for operation relentless pursuit to the tune of 61000000. 00 in funding for local police and in each case local democratic mayors have authorized their Police Departments to work with federal Law Enforcement to conduct investigations and apprehend suspects in cooperation with the local u. S. Attorneys office never mind the fact that some of these cities probably dont need more a lot of horsemen if their existing officers like the ones in Baltimore City are making headlines already for jeep big toy guns the plan on suspects just in case they shot an unarmed person or getting caught planting drugs on suspects and body can footage or becoming the 1st city to be monitored by Police Surveillance planes tell us activists social scientists and the like have repeatedly said that Community Investment is how you reduce crime yet even the cities that appeared of finally grasped this have yet to fully divesting Police Powers even minneapolis well the Minneapolis City Council has voted to dismantle the citys Police Department and reallocate Police Funding following George Floyds death that would be applied to Minneapolis Park Police force whose armed members have trained with the citys Police Department yet are part of a park system which meant tames its very own force of Police Officers to patrol more than 6000 acres of parkland within the city one of whom was present at lloyds killing when i think part ways i think of cops on horses and i think horses are the last creatures we need to be teaching implicit bias because of a can a they are only one syllable away from sounding out the words. And just because those cops cover the park system doesnt mean they dont need an overhaul as the outlet grist pointed out and 2018 minneapolis per police held for somalia American Teens at gun point after a bogus 9 11. 00 call and the park police and many apple this isnt the only one under scrutiny a federal u. S. Park police here in d. C. Is facing a lot of heat for hurling pepper balls and stagger balls at protesters in Lafayette Square outside of the white house in a move that u. S. Park Police Claims was more about clearing protesters the put up around a perimeter fence and less about making way for the president to pose outside a nearby church and hold a bible upside down as he wondered whether the Burning Sensation he felt was from the residual tear gas in the air or the fact he was standing so close to a church but considering the u. S. Park police already have a reputation for not wearing body cameras and day to day patrols it was even more suspicious when it was discovered that the park police did not record their radio transmissions during the Lafayette Square operation on june 1st if a federal Law Enforcement agency doesnt follow standard protocol during a highly publicized prote