A multitrillion dollar bail out. Wall street and big corporations did not in fact dressed the actual problems that were or before the crisis you had 80 percent of americans that were living paycheck to paycheck less that ive heard dollars in savings for more than apple americans and now youre telling them that theyre supposed to take a leave or its the americans without any any income so that they cannot afford rent and they can still be evicted in the middle of it and that while not providing them universal basic income or universal Health Coverage with a single payer or medicare also because of things that people in other developed countries in the world is the richest country in the world the United States other people take medicare for all for example Single Parents as they take that for granted and so now you have the absurdity of a country. That is on top of that continuing to murder people of color in the streets without cause on video and you expect people to somehow react and have no reaction to that and so you know the definition of a failed state and Political Science is a government that they also protect its people and doesnt provide basic services now in the United States more than a 3rd of families with children and no longer or food and and more than a 3rd can no longer afford shelter those who are renting you know in looking at the Public Discourse over the last few days particularly since the death of mr floyd. The mainstream liberal media and im pointing this to r. C. Right now as it is. Grabbed onto systemic racism and then and thats part of their mantra and a case i suppose could be made for that but the phrase i cant repeat that resonates with me because i think that talks of beyond race is actually a class issue but the the ruling elites do not like to to frame things in terms of class and i think need to do a very good job of doing that and im coming from this conservative perspective here because watching the elites in washington bail out the richest people in the world i think they were are no chance these people are going to go under here and im really disappointed with the g. O. P. I hope theyre not going into the lame stablish when democrats will need to put their toes didnt believe in helping working class a little better ways is its good policy is good oh it takes but its not happening r. C. Go ahead well i think that there is no i. Sure exactly could have done a better job but he got her active so what shes a wider variety of americans but what a lot of americans. Are my so if i got 1000. 00 you probably still see these protests and said. 3500. 00 you probably still see these protests i think that its highly and a little bit of spin in nature to say that this is now to turned into a class struggle i think in actual reality what youre seeing youre seeing are radical groups doing a very good job using issues as a cover for their motives and their decider justice and. R. C. Well can be true with the same time would you agree both could be true at the same time because i think there. Is theres a perspective theres an Older Americans who are you know still in a little bit of Economic Experts say that it is nearly predicated on a g. O. P. Or bailouts that would appease the american system it is a bit misguided in my accent i think. I got in trouble of the amount that they did yet i still think youd see protests and i think youd see protests not necessarily because of cost structure but because these are you know one of the worst errors and. You have one or america or any i think its all about making the claim that this anger is because of what the g. O. P. Did or didnt do is really a footnote to a whole of this year i think then in let me go back to nikki i mean this is the neil liberal model of being judged in and being judged by oh why a rate of members of society i mean we went from. The apparent murder we havent had a complete due process year of an unarmed black man in the i me up list now weve gotten to riots all across the country and i think it is left that thats the civic tragedy and it is being people are expressing an enormous amount of anger because the system isnt working for them it has nothing to do with one check or a 2nd check if the system isnt working go ahead nick. I agree the system is not working for a ball. And i think that that cannot be overstated when you have so many people in poverty at this moment and you know when you have for example for even those who when there was a there for example there was a freeze on it since and foreclosures earlier you know early on in the end amec a couple months ago but that freeze was temporary and so that is going to become you for example and you will see thousands tens of thousands of people get kicked out of their homes just like you saw in the Great Recession i mean some of the figures that i brought up earlier about a 3rd of americans with children not being able to order food anymore i mean this is a reality this is why i describe this as a state not being able to provide basic services it goes beyond that and what i want to add to this is the fact that you cannot continually tell. I think a people who have lived through centuries of slavery bent a century of jim crow and following that Mass Incarceration Police Brutality prison took for a school to prison pipeline and then say that somehow ah after decades of that one peaceful protest has not worked best somehow they are the problem or an expression of desperation that is happening now across the country you set it up very well and i and i understand the argument and its Campaign Compelling in many respects but lets go back to our see here im sorry i will have to disagree this kind of looting and violence is completely unacceptable it is against the rule of law it is it turns into a hobson war of everyone against everyone and and i find that a. Acceptable and you know watching a nike store being cleared out that has nothing to do with what happened in minneapolis again anyone it makes that claim is wrong ok now im agreeing with the nit with nate in the sense that this is a systemic issue and its being fought for one thing so that agree with you r. C. On that i want to talk about m. T. V. A little bit later but thats why i asked the question in my introduction what is the protests in a right go ahead r. S. Well see if i can and i think you know nick i think you and you are perhaps a good service to the Democratic National committee righties are talking points use i think that the way that nick is trying to construct reality is exactly what the far left wants you think they want you to think that this is all about racial inequities in our country and they want you to think that this is a had this kind of mindset that america is a Current System is a prevailing mice and among most americans well guess what it isnt like americans were serai. Or d coronavirus was unleashed. However it was. From the east so i dont think that america is a failed state when you look at failed states like i dont know places that were stabilized by drugs or if you try will or perhaps by psych degree a horn of africa those are felt states what happens and what happens and chatted and in europe when someone really needs a surgery they come to the United States united state provides much more than what is needed is much more then ever m. R. So sorry are you americans are doing fine whats happening right now is not a result any for injustice in america it is simply the result of as a result of the coronavirus and desire by a status meant our last hours to create a kind of tension going to america to create a kind of you know kind of an environment where you know. The talking points he talks maybe get a couple a swing voters to vote just for me than how they voted. I dont you go and 16 and oversight and power a few back and some you know are all you know over more its and itll be business as usual so i asked so that the meal liberal project that has not is not party specific ok i mean theyre all in on that ok and this linkletter biker audience i dont think the democratic establishment would really give mitt any time of day because i speak as a concert and this is much against the g. O. P. Establishment as i am against the d. N. C. Because im trying to reimagine politics here maybe a progressive i am a conservative but i think we can do it because the people who are separating us are the ones that want us to keep us separated and dont want to talk about a reasonable policy a lots been said here nick go ahead jim. Likewise. I actually left the Democratic Party in 2016 after watching them cheap Bernie Sanders and after having worked on his campaign actually lobbying that the n. C. Members to try to persuade them of the kinds of things that i was saying that was the job i add on that campaign and so if that is it the heel or a project is a bipartisan projects you know you have seen for decades on end that working people have not gotten a rise the minimum wage in real value in 1968 and so that is consistent through democratic republican administrations both parties that helped all control of government during this on their bill clinton we are with the democrats a crock obama with the democrats as well and that is basically why im working with an organization actually called the movement for people who are who just was out was a major new progressive up those already in the United States and that has nothing to do it with the democrats are taking her to get away from both of them because so much access and able. To see how do you respond because the interesting thing is if it and again in principle i would agree with nick and everything he said it just how he would get there thats when we get into the minutia ok and thats fine i like politics i like debate ok i like honest people ok now people are constantly luck to you in the new style because up to the do best. I agree i agree that tempted me see i agree with everything you said but i dont think youre on so youre missing the point for me re neo liberalism is a fine artist project and so is anti trump and the reason anti tribalism and you are who is some are similar is because the trunk is a popular strong Woman National service we are not trying to find a lot more in common with Bernie Sanders populous voters and you know and and dance media center. Democrats so youre right no one who doesnt is an art. Is the actual system that i think. I am an interest from trump on a bipartisan members obvious hours on end up quite strong i dont know why trump is able to use your connection. Because National Brand is something that speaks of both parties its antiestablishment and you know a lot of what i mean you know you. Personally youre just. Playing on our sleeve is that i would hope that donald trump would have taken the lead in dealing with this crisis but no he let congress do it and i found that really remarkable that he didnt want to take any responsibility for that i gentlemen im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break and after that short break you know our discussion then demick and its reaction and writing in america. Has changed american lives but pharmaceutical companies have a miraculous solution. Based drugs the people who are chronic pain patients believe that their prescription is working for them and the remedy be said to. Price at the. Close of dependency and addiction to opiates to long to use that really isnt scientifically just now study actually suggest that. The long term effects may not just be the absence of benefit but actually that they may be causing long term. Welcome back to crossfire where all things are considered im hearing about to remind you were discussing whether United States is becoming a failed state. Ok nick let me go back to you lets go back to a topic but it was just touched upon in the 1st out of the program minutes on t. V. And thats something that really really irritates me here and there is ample evidence now video footage of these a professional troublemakers from all over the country invading communities and just causing a ruckus and destruction and whipping up all kinds of. Emotions when we dont need that right now because you know i say this to anyones support and cheaper is that with every few to where every human do it you her poor and working people ok and theyre very selfish these and keep people and they are i would say the antithesis of what they claim to be bait they have a very sick mind that its my way or the highway how do you respond to that of course there are people attempting to exploit the crisis but to focus on those people is to deny the justice that actually created this systemic problem and its a beginning whether thats what i would say ok ok but it is so you would condemn though their tactics and their behavior of course and there are those who are exploiting the crisis to do biol and loot you know and that is that bedsit be condemned it doesnt you know it doesnt necessarily have to do with george lloyd there are people who are using it you know as there always are you know just like i mean but at the same time if youre going to and bad that you know i mean you have to condemn the conditions that created this in the 1st place and i think we agree there and you also have to. Condemned those who exploit crises on orders of magnitude far greater than its like explaining coronavirus past the base upward transfer of wealth in American History how did the reason i hate it really come is that its a special court with me nick is that the the middle class has been looted for 40 years ok they have experienced that here and 2 wrongs dont make a right because r. C. I am very in phatic about this think the number of stories ive been told from people that are in the know theyre up ended in minneapolis say a firefighter or i dont know if he was active or retired he was going to start his own bar for the community and it was supposed to open up a monday today but hurt the ground. And i think it was an africanamerican on top of the class a race shouldnt matter but i mean theres a who or person to pull himself up ok and the heat and then you have these thugs to go burning to the ground he didnt have insurance he says out of luck ok this is what your e. F. May buy this type of behavior because this kind of behavior is unconscionable under us history and counterproductive r. C. Its very counterproductive and you know what nick and its something that i actually said a few days ago and now i do what not many people do you ask what it meant but i was wrong it is a go i sent already condemned to hooters before we stopped the hooter a prerequisite is arresting George Lawrence murder and guess what he was arrested days ago and already has continued under the worst so i am in addition to the man how you ever went to all of our. House oh theres no room for your trunks to get beaten down by a man with a wooden plank i mean we can continue to say before we can get back we should also condone violence i. Know the long time has come for us. You know nancy and recognize that this just isnt happening on the ground discussion. On top and youre out in america its being signed shocks hijacked by whites isnt just popping by and secret in the streets its also happening i have small rules when it comes to the span of a narrative point. Being spied on by the establishment media to make this a cost trouble well no and that would they want to make it into a race struggle and i dont i dont buy it and im americas original sin is racism ok and it all is something a project that will have to work on for our entire existence but its. Like but i insisted i go back to nic here it is much more of a class issue here because there are so many myths and many more people involved the thing is looking at the reaction to the coronavirus and now the tragic events i have just come to the very same conclusion that the elites know who grabbed any answers for the problems that they have created you know why because theyre just insulated from those problems ok i mean they can or are Mainstream Media all cable you know you can have all of these you know these a talking heads on t. V. Talking about how sad and poor and terrible things are theyre 2 all earning 68 years they go back to their gated communities i mean its almost as if theyre watching a Netflix Series you know and just waiting for the next episode you had. It is as its really. The well the richest americans millionaires has increased by 434000000000. 00 during this crisis and so you have a section of society this happened and this also happened the 21st that separates off from the rat this is during you know during the gilded age or thats why when there was massive inequality right before the depression and the stock market crashed and black to say that set it was like an american a stock aristocracy and that is whats happening again when you have one family go out and am like that as the wealth of the bottom 43 percent of americans and their consult and theyre using this crisis to consolidate even more well then you do you have a segment of society that is no longer connected they do not experience its not only that they do not live the conditions of the majority of americans the mass of working class americans but they no longer even experience them or come into contact with them in their own lives like you mentioned they live in gated communities there are ferried around either by the sofa or limousines they go to the you know there are. The glass op you know massive glass Office Buildings you know in steel skyscrapers and they never have to see or encounter the ramifications of the kinds of all cities that you know im including members of congress here senators you know the average of which is about a 1000000. 00 and well and many of whom enrich themselves in the course of what office. They never have to see earth experience the consequences of the laws that they passed down the brunt of which is borne by working people you know her see if i was just astonished and go by the fact. When the lockdown started in you know 1st you had the markets crashed and all the. Which of course is a subset of all the oxygen the markets and all the markets dont really have much into the bridge person ok most people are not invested in the market it is they put so much attention into it ok and then when this stimulus or aid pa