Big enough to work terry and 1st is someone who actually understands what a democracy is how it functions and even has ever read the constitution what were seeing with joe biden is someone who they think that america 1st and foremost is yusuke joe biden is local jail to a lot of people hes someone she was part of the most successful Democratic Administration the past 6 years and hes also someone shuai knows how to unite United Nations and right now in the midst of a Global Pandemic in the midst of an economic crisis he is someone who is also waded through an economic crisis before he is the orchestrator along with president obama of the relief packages after the crash of 2008 so i think that with him people are seeing someone who is in stark contrast to what President Trump is doing not only in terms of unification but also someone who is not making flat out racist statements someone who is not objectifying women someone who is not out here being the antithesis to all. Things democracy and all things democratic and i think that that is something that speaks more to people than anything else is their referendum on donald trump absolutely but i think that just by saying that that is the only reason or you know part and parcel black people are getting out to vote i think that that is a little bit too broad of a statement as i made several mistakes over and over and over again to be someone who believes wholeheartedly in what hes doing Small Business needs so many unforced errors it is remarkable ok but let me let me stay with you here let me rephrase it here joe biden just as it is this likable as Hillary Clinton i think thats what it gets down to because trump hasnt been able to put a label on joe biden that sticks because like you said he has a likability quotient that is very difficult to challenge and i think hes an empty suit and i dont see anything to be proud of when the in the Obama Administration but most importantly for joe is hes not likable joe react to the last of us. Disagree with that and as well joe biden is not a likable candidate i mean when you talk about the contrast between President Trump and him you know you know his growth limon you have to look at joe biden his grown up children and as something that plays a huge part in whether people especially in a black or Latino Community on a vote for him especially you know with that crime bill still pending on the books i mean hes going to have to do some type of you mustnt have a restitution on a set of eyes and mass incarceration for black america and hes going to have to explain how why he so easily have he talked he would children. Ok im ok but then i think ive got standard you can accuse donald trump of the same thing and you know if and that can be an element and maybe that is something that will make people think or they pull the lever but that has nothing to do really with policy and thats what i really want to stay with your this character defamation stuff i guess and doesnt move the needle i dont think with anyone here michel let me go to you you know policy wise i mean if you look at trump in the polls he started he started collapsing with the kind of the coronavirus and his administrations response to it and i dont in my opinion and im a conservative joe dont misunderstand im a conservative ok but it seems to me that theyre playing catch up now in trying to deal with this pandemic and of course it has been grossly politicized by all sides go ahead in washington and i think that you make a very good point up until coronavirus hit and we saw President Trump go from having daily briefings to now pausing and having no briefings to coming back and having more briefings his disillusionment and excitement about a drug that has been proven time and time again not to work in protecting people against coronavirus were actually saving lives and hydroxy clark which is him making several statements about not wearing a mask and himself not modeling wearing a mask and just being someone to ignore it even his own task force when it came to the steps necessary to reopen schools when it came to the steps necessary to ensure that everyone had the p. P. T. That they needed were watching time and time again in a Global Crisis where the president needs to be someone who is that unifier but also someone who pays attention to and understands the science were seeing this president not do that and utilize his isolationist policies not only to pull out a lot of the a lot of the unifying missions when it comes to health care we see what he how his reaction is with the World Health Organization we see him not listening to other nations state leaders who have come together on trying to fight coronavirus. This is a united front because of the populism that this president exemplifies because of his isolationist policies he cannot see the forest for the trees and it is really causing more and more people to die we just saw a report what last week they showcased how initially he was absolutely fine with not following a lot of the guidelines or not even talking about them because he thought that the states that were going to be the most affected or states they were democrat democratically won when you assume that people can die in democratic led states and you can just blame governors thats a problem hes present the United States not just president of the red states ok we just heard something that i want to explore because something that ive been thinking about a lot i think that all of us would agree that trump ran is a populist in 2016 and he won ok he won the only needed look toral votes to win the presidency ok joe has governed as a populist because i dont think he has go ahead you know what i dont think there is any correct way to govern especially in a time like coronavirus. You could do a better job just agree with that thats when you see real leadership real leadership when you have a challenge for all the country for every citizen irrespective of what letter you put at the end of your last name or you have to be a leader of all go ahead absolutely and i absolutely agree with that and like i said before there are things that he could have done better there are things that his ministration have done better especially one time like coronavirus but i will say this the media doesnt give him a fair shot i mean when he tries to shut down travel to Foreign Countries they call them a race and they call them all types of names you know and you can make that assumption and he can blame governors from things that are happening and in states but less you got a horny as an example gavin newsom shut down our statements as minor he opened Gavin Newsome did you know a 1000000000 dollar do you get mass in china you know and so when you look at these type of bans when you consider them. Information especially when it comes to wear and mask what type of mass we are if mass even a fact if you know you have to put that on the head of the leadership now president of has his ideals are how he filled balloons to go just like every other governor not in their day when it comes to managing states the overall you know leadership of the overawed already comes from a governor so i have been theres a group with mrs cross on that when the governors are there has a distaste president trying to make recommendations but he controls what happens fairly each individual state. Lets go back to. Washington are you disappointed how this pandemic and the reaction to it has been so politicized because you know all lives that red state right here and i really pains me when we talk about red states and blue states were dealing with a pandemic because a pet pen demming doesnt discriminate between red and blue states here in is there any neutral ground on this series and theres nothing theres no neutral ground in american politics right now go ahead no absolutely and youre right the pandemic doesnt discriminate the policies happen to there are very few policies across this country that are race neutral and we know that over time weve seen it extrapolated across the whole where there are blacks latinos who consistently are hit hardest when things like this pandemic occur or any type of economic upheaval but when it comes specifically to coronavirus the expectation was that from the top and the president is at the top that you would have a leader who was able to get a piece by piece plan and a strategy around how states would handle this be in Constant Contact with state leadership give a guy point because you are the leader of the greatest nation on earth you are that leadership model youre supposed to model yourself after what you would expect citizens to do and what we saw time and time again was trump mistake those opportunities we saw him stand in front audiences and just not tell the truth we saw him ignore the science we. Saw him speak against things that his own Pandemic Task force what is giving other alternative information for thats a problem because it will lacked a lot of trust it made people confused the reason why we have such a push against mask Wearing Masks right now is because the president for the longest did not wear them and he actually tweeted out aggression and support for those who were marching in stomping on state capitals with weapons so that they didnt have to wear them so when we see a president take those types of names in the wrong direction and we consistently see the coronavirus case its up to over and over and over again it begs the question are we a leaderless nation and youre right i think you said this a few moments ago moments of crisis or when you see true leaders rise what weve seen is this president all over and over again at a time where in all honesty the whole world is seeing a crisis in the United States is typically where people look for motivations where people look for this guy pose and right now thats just not what were seeing were seeing countries bar the United States in our state if you look around the world the United States is a lot of europe is one of the worst performers in dealing with this and demi are ok my forbes and well the whole issue of opening up of schools its really only in the u. 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Personally as a conservative im very disappointed that the white house hasnt taken but the dealing i mean 1st of all we had the 1st round of stimulus bailout and of course it went to some of the richest people in the world people that didnt even need the money ok and that goes across the board whatever your political affiliations its the one percent they got relief ok the stock market so far is ok what im really upset is that you know mix with Mitch Mcconnell he comes into washington for a couple weeks you know somebody might do something maybe we will maybe we wont and then well go on vacation here there are millions in millions of people facing a crisis right now a really huge one particularly when wrenching that issue is you know is coming up people who are not being able to pay their rent here why hasnt donald trump got into the oval office told the networks we have a National Emergency and this is what the president. United states one son and i dont care what you think mcconnell you better get back in your seat and we get to figure this out because millions and this is only going to get worse this is no movie were for america if youre going to look if its going to be a long term jump ok where is the leadership right there because it seems to me that there is this is an ideal moment in this Election Campaign for trying to go left of by and say were going to bail out the middle class and working class people he ran as a populist but he doesnt govern as warm go ahead. To agree with his cross and earlier which he said that our black and brown communities are economically disadvantaged and this is you know true coronavirus them before coronavirus these are some of things that we have to go through on the law every day now when you x. Out come the president has in you know joe biden to say this is what we need to do i have a lot of questions i would like to x. And another question i would like to ask because i cant even the aster we have to reach out so its ministration we have actually not come you never visited any black and broke a music show that you actually care about what it is we go through on a regular basis i mean we are were economically disadvantaged at every every turn when it comes to education when it comes to the lack of Economic Development when it comes to having quality jobs in our community and when it when it comes Affordable Housing or even tell you know youre innocent most of those communities are run by democrats yes this is absolutely correct that is why this you know what im not going to say that democrats are the problem and i will say that people who are leadership positions in the Democratic Party are the problem i mean i look at areas like South Central los angeles the 40 there in their shoes whos been governed by Maxine Waters for over 40 years i mean people have gotten comfortable without getting anything from their representatives which means they fell to hold them accountable which is why many more people stand up especially young people is that enough to run for these. Office positions that where we dont have to ax these questions we can be the answer to these questions ok but they can what do you think what can donald trump to attract the support. Of people of color black black communities where you are here i mean it seems to me that in there he seem it seems to me that donald trump is kind of lost his mind this touch because he couldnt he could fight off you know this russia impeachment need crain all of that nonsense he was able to do it but when it came to business here he seems to have lost his touch it seems to me and the administration is listless and you know what really angers me going to for a conservative to conservative is that he continues to listen to these libertarians around him you know mix the regulate this get a tax cut our job is done lets go home that is a recipe for a mcgovern rout style rout in november here were done no youre not youre done for your friends and your donors but youre not done for the American People and and i and thats what and thats why i will so sorely criticizes the administration because i dont see any proactivity concierge treatment for the rich but no we cant spend the money you know if you spend hundreds of billions of dollars on the military all the time but you can spend it on Middle America then whats the point go ahead continue joe well this is this is about leadership that we see in the inner cities on a regular basis whether to present is a democrat or republican they never stepped foot into our cities theres been very little progress in legislation thats been passed to economically empower communities of black or latino so this is something that i see on a daily basis that i know maybe know the you but i think you know to have a republican in office i mean you know spread that leadership around to the urban areas that i have no. You know no no positive there is a way of people chipping know if you have the president in some rounds themselves with people concerned with the stock market got to these worried about how start america doing which is no litmus test to how 98 percent of the people not of states ok but is just absurd ok and i cant understand why he cant break out of that bubble ok and his friends are fine theyre always the good to be fined ok. Lets go back to washington only in your mind your supporter of joe Joe Joe Biden that is how do you think he would deal differently with this crisis go ahead mischa joe biden is a believer of science he is someone she knew as brett the policies he is someone who has a. Doctor on call when it comes to understanding a lot of Different Things particularly like she was in the Obama Administration while they were fighting zico while they were fighting a lot of several other pandemics that didnt necessarily affe