Economic oh i see the suffering of millions of people it is devastating. Its still not too late to do the right things but they need political will and the capacity to make decisions namely to concentrate on the place where there are ups and hes really hot it made me out of a concentration in they all told to go concentration and manage it in a way that will minimize the damage to economy and for old people while empowering the healthiest and this is not down so im very critical and i think that its a major failure of that and the oh well he won you lost in the end actions and netanyahu supporters would say not only has he secured massive us subsidy to israel a 142 1000000000. 00 to 2019 but we more coronavirus later on he secured this socalled Abraham Accords with some arab or talk or sees hes secured the moving of the us embassy to jerusalem something you strongly supports sour grapes for you on this look here deception achievement im glad to see emulates and behind. Went out of the closure to no it did to foam allies relationship with us and i hope that others will follow it positive development. Of course its not a we have peace its not a major breakthrough we know these people for 25 years. And we have a very very. Tense even relationship with them on many of enough but still its good news to go see them away to to meet with us in public after the chief winters way of moving go from buffy and both of those form tel aviv to children is also welcomed here but nothing can cover these major oh colo cell. Defeat by the corner viable from the one hand and the damage to economy which goes now about to well for 17 percent of g. D. P. And our grand gunned children will have to pay for weight in a future that im a joe the bucket full. And not to mention that he loses the last of the people because he cannot give a personality sample or need for really concentrated on the series of. Quote cases about corruption well obviously he denies corruption even though hes been indicted for it and as for these Abraham Accords you claim then not some of the greatest developments in the middle east will donald trump seeking election in november says theyre huge step forward what do you mean there have been relations before between israel and the United Arab Emirates and bahrain the u. A. E. Didnt recognize israel they would raise the word israel from atlases in libraries in dubai i happen to be many still far Foreign Affairs of were 25 years ago and i met with the bus. In sherman hundreds of pieces of president mubarak at the time we met several times with abdullah bit they. Was over there on the south lawn of the white house reason ateneo heal a ship between israeli business sees a relationship between our governments i was there for some 20 years and theyre still i do not deny its very positive development that theyre now ready to sign more formal agreement with south and open embassy than normalization debt good good news for the middle east its a blow to the palestinians but i hope that well find a way to make it. So. Paid with full the prospect of. Contact with the palestinians not the other wife not the old bloke to be with the palestinians i should say the leaders of met with israeli leaders they certainly dont recognize israel diplomatically you mention the palestinians they completely reject the Abraham Accords and the deal of the century coming out of the white house is it worse now than it ever has been since camp david and biffle for the palestinians i hope not you know it showed the world the awakening full form this blind hatred. And lead a far away do to stand in front of their own publics and tell them if there is an old model state we have to have a relationship with them thats very even it tells the palestinian or shows them that they were action which is all for our negotiations and. For my view not not go for it oh if hes determined to fight though whatever he takes and we do whatever means but then the same time i strongly believe that 2 state solution is the only solution and i already stated many times that even if we take 515. 00 or 50 of the after camp david where a breakthrough will be achieved you will need magnifying glass to feed the differences between what was on the table the camp david what will be agreed to hamas in gaza completely rejects this deal of the century what do you think theyre going to do next i understand that obviously israel was financing hamas youd know that israel am best moshi irans he knew you when you were deputy i. D. F. Chief what has happened with hamas from israeli financing to hamas now. Lead. The struggle some palestinians would say against illegal Israeli Occupation you know we cannot replace the palestinians its somehow we to help and that we we were ready to go ahead to even though we dismantled israeli settlements in gaza and pulled out every israeli settler or soldier and looked forward to cope with a deal with the palestinian. Authority and then the amassed took over and since then they accumulate to me look at which cover half of israel wide now. Follow me every every several years where. A higher profile clash with them for some time and then. Fall for some time with small exchanges or clashes its not good but its up to the palestinians the opportunities there we are ready to concede support the infrastructure as long as it doesnt go and. We allow the qataris bait mainly the qataris to help them financially and it up to the Palestinian People we will never settle and we still we will never accept always something acceptable and we are Strong Enough to fight it but i think that the the a berm accords showed tells the palestinians that the time poor billy had come to have a 2nd sort about the whole paradigm to developing and to i to come to terms to israel it would be better for them and i cannot deny tibet of. Well i dont need to remind you the gross Human Rights Violations by israel when you were in leadership positions whether in the army or in the political as a political leader i should just ask you know why did you finance a mass in the 1st place youre saying youre against terrorism but why was i must being financed by israel anyway no we are not financing from us we just we allowed the qataris to finance them and we of course because we supplied the electricity all we cannot afford it in our neighborhood a major humanitarian crises we. We dont have. Big gardens in faith we have the cool weather and weve come us with their political leaders and in god they leave 2000000 people with their rights to have know my life. Suffering because of their own leadership and we are ready to put an end to it but its not up to us its up to the. Well israel has financed Hamas Israels ambassador to washington moshe rounds the deputy actually back then in back then was netanyahu himself Brigadier General hugh tex again israels military governor of gaza claimed that israel finances hamas what im trying to get to as to the relevance today is is israel financing islam ists terrorism throughout the middle east we saw netanyahu accused of supporting isis diane in syria against president assad we even know about israels role with iran in the iran contra scandal why does israel support islam is violence. I think that you are totally longview you mentioned the shower an attorney out of his deputy it was so 2 years ago fell to you to go a generation ago. Are we involved in. Directly in. Contrast. Marginal of vote and we see in iran post khomeini iran why were not. Encouraged any tell all israelis probably de most determined state in fighting against their will i mean israel obviously was part of the iran contra deal allowing weapons to be exported to iran and as you say these are historical details but how many years ago but how many is it hurted how many years ago did netanyahu meet with a legit isis diasur al qaeda sympathizers in the nato back to war against president assad of syria. I should admit they dont understand the open fictional fi story we are talking we are facing major injuries right now and you are talking about. I will give you that but these events do you go totally. Now in the middle east full of promise ill still be them all from israels former Prime Minister and defense minister after this break. Wall street financial engineers the kleptocrats divert the money printing into their pockets at a rate that according to the Rand Corporation equals more than 50. 00 trillion dollars so that is your smoking gun thats why we have social unrest thats why we have incredible wealth and income gap thats why we have such a distorted economy thats why wages are not keeping up thats why weve got inflation ranging thats a smoking gun in the story. Welcome back im still here with the 10th Prime Minister of israel ehud barak president rouhani of iran claims that there are forces supporting islam mystic stream ism he obviously said the United States but he also says israel has been supporting that and many believe the abraham record accords in the preamble to a war on iraq i would not take a president or honey or was going to make the job for these of these metro as a kind of phony live in this whole series of information about to live in soft iran is it totally biased and. Theres no basis for eat and. Called could be described as a defensive step against iranian expansion east. Region ali tension but not as a pretty. Kind of face creep for a friend or friends if steps against iran iran of course denies it has any regional ambitions did you support Donald Trumps assassination of general qassam sunni money the iranian general who up until recently had been working with u. S. Troops to defeat isis diane syria its an american operation its up to day im only spec do i store ect upon do judgement. Over there into s. T. Into fighting against. Global terror all and if you ask me where do the world is a little bit safer place after suliman leave now to ease our thought i would tell you yes my answer. Affirmative general sulaimani was working with United States troops against isis day yes netanyahu is pictured with islam ists who links to isis. Newness in the b. B. C. Here in britain found out that british support was ending up with islam ists in syria what im getting at is where is the support for islam is coming from in your region you know i dont know you and never met you but i can tell you judging from your question you have. A huge misperception of what will be happens in the middle east and im that true to what extent it could be of value have been interviewed we continue to have to listen to your claims which i found totally disconnected from reality even here all day of the names and they vent you have mentioned probably had happened im not sure of this give believe iran a bluffing about retaliation for the assassination of customs and their money i dont see a value for continue to continue these we owe you know your right to free the situation or the perception of the viewers of the situation upon your judgment and to ask me just to give more kind of modification to it i do not accept your framing so i dont think that there is any value to continue doing 3 of it but all i was asking about was how big is the iranian threat to israel now that the United States assassinated one of their top generals i think that my english is not as good as yours but in plain english and very clear i dont believe it did. Way to continue an interview where in your own question youre too white to put in im so. Im used to totally different interviews than i with all due respect i will ask you to end this interview will i have to ask you i mean im talking about Regional Security and the threats to israel you did want to be Prime Minister of israel up until a few months ago im asking you about how secure israel is given the Abraham Accords given the assassination of kusum still a money given the u. A. E. And bahrain becoming friends with israel you know i repeat it always with all due respect you have your opinion you have dont like where am i asking for your opinion idea were in the old friend and i know its going to i dont understand no no you dont ask my opinion i must go and ask for my you dont ask for my. You discuss. Form of a minister i think respect for my white to fully uncertain your questions im asking for your opinion about where israel situation a deeply embedded deeply deeply embedded in the open old or pinions you have your wife or having your opinions but i am not i do not intend to cooperate or collaborate with this and thank you i really thank you very much for your the opportunity to talk to you but i think these. Days im not sure why your came to it in. Former israeli Prime Minister ehud barak decided to end the interview there well joining me now for more is the editor in chief of the Jerusalem Post jack of cats heck of thanks for. Coming back on we just spoke to former Prime Minister barak before he left is a shadow strike do you think being prepared on iran like the one you wrote about on syria when barak was defense minister well i think that israel is always preparing for. Military action against Irans Nuclear facilities theres no doubt that if you were 20000 you. Would pose a threat of an extension of nature to the fact i told this dont hate your readiness or or desire to win the white this are off the map so israel would have to have the capability in place but i dont think were there yet because i suppose the context of why iran might want to retaliate is assassination because im still a mommy Abraham Accords all manner of different geopolitical developments obviously iran denies any military Nuclear Capability do you think and i know youve been really critical of netanyahu hes actually become quite a good Prime Minister in your country hes succeeding in getting us support for the arguably alleged violations of International Law many resolutions he succeeded in getting golan israeli the embassy to jerusalem the j. C. P. O. Way and massive subsidy from the us to tackle covered a virus. Well i think that there are treatments and the ups i think that there is the new 10 you know it was the statesman and you know it was diplomat and you know who knows how to work very well with other countries around the world and especially has cultivated particularly close ties and if special relationship an alliance with the current u. S. President donald trump and as a result has been able to achieve for israel a long list as some of them you mentioned Strategic Benefits i would say for israel but then theres another nixon you know the one who im more critical of who is i find to be a bit of a divisive politician i find his rhetoric to be sometimes antidemocratic i find some moves that hes made and the knesset Israels Parliament against the attorney general against our courts against the judicial system and principally and most recently has management of the Coronavirus Crisis in this country has been a complete failure sadly i say that and i wonder at times if its not as a result of the fact that the Prime Minister is very preoccupied with his own trial that is about to restart in january well see him sitting inside a courtroom 3 days a week for hours on end that is something that he definitely doesnt want be it but this is a situation that needs a full time Prime Minister whos completely focused on the health and welfare of his citizens and i dont think that israel has that. Always and then you know denies the corruption charges he also deny that hes handled coronavirus pull income come given your editorials they know youve accuse netanyahu of wanting total chaos you sound like an iranian politician in some of your editorial for the jury surely thats a thats a bit of a stretch i dont think im a reagan politician i think that what im doing and arent tauriel what were doing is we are holding what journalism is meant to be journalism is meant to be a watchdog for democracy that the real issue at. And you just have to look at the numbers right and you know they pretty much speak for itself israel today has a heist an actual rate per capita much from a country that appeared in the 1st week i respect march and april very tough luck i should say one of the highest its not the highest more seriously is or one from a country that did very well the 1st way through country and now its locking down the 1st western countries locking down its just for a 2nd time with with draconian measures economy again which is already predicted by the o. E. C. D. To be taking a 6 percent drop after years of growth is going to continue more businesses will close down more people get sick where people sadly die this is not Good Management well you have a death rate in israel which is better but capita than the one here in britain i should add and i suppose some might ask you to me more patriotic of course you gave a very good defense of what journalism supposed to do that but i think one element to the khaybar have. Courts is palestinians have nowhere to go now theyve called it a stab in the back from the u. A. E. And bahrain whats your view as to whether saudi arabia was basically behind this deal involving theoretically trump netanyahu with bahrain in the u. A. E. Well i mean he threw a lot out of me right there so the let me just say firstly about the saudis involvement with the u. A. E. It seemed that they might have had a hand in it because it would be difficult to see the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates mohamed bin say i make a move this kind without the crown princes approval from saudi arabia and yes let me just say about the palestinians for a moment in my personal opinion israel now should be reaching out to the palestinians because were reaching out from point to strength sadly there intransigent theyre stuck in their old ways theyre theyre missing another they dont miss an op