A concentration in their own throat to go concentration and manage it in a way that will minimize the damage to economy in fact for. Old people while. Empowering the healthy thing this is not done so i am very critical and i think that its a major failure of that and the oh well he won you lost in the end actions and netanyahu supporters would say not only has he secured massive us subsidy to israel a 142000000000. 00 to be true to 2019 but we more coronavirus later on he secured this socalled Abraham Accords with some arab or talk or sees hes secured the moving of the us embassy to jerusalem something you strongly supports sour grapes for you on this look here deception achievement im glad that the emirates and before. Went out of the closure to no it did to foam allies relationship with us and i hope that others will follow it positive development. Of course its not a we have peace its not a major breakthrough we know these people for 25 years. And we have a very very tense even relationship with them on many of enough but still its good news to see them away due to meet with us in public after the chief and his way of moving go from buffy and buffet goals for television to children is also welcomed here but nothing can cover these major kolo cell. Defeat by the corner viable from one hand and the damage to economy which goes now about to well for 17 percent of g. D. P. And our grand gunned children will have to pay for weight in a future that im a joe the bucket full. And not to mention that he loses the last of the people because he cannot give a personality sample or need for really concentrated on the series of. Cold cases about corruption well obviously he denies corruption even though hes been indicted for it and as for this is an Abraham Accords you claim then not some of the greatest developments in the middle east will donald trump seeking election in november says theyre huge step forward what do you mean theyre being relations before between israel and the United Arab Emirates and bahrain the u. A. E. Didnt recognize israel they would raise the word israel from atlases in libraries in dubai i happen to be many still far Foreign Affairs of is where 25 years ago and i met with the bus. In sherman hundreds of pieces of president mubarak at that time we met several times with abdullah bit they. Was over there on the south lawn of the white house reason ateneo heal a ship between israeli bees and see the relationship between our governments i was there for some 20 years and they still i do not deny its very positive development that they are now ready to sign a more formal agreement with south and open embassy than normalization debt good good news for the middle east its a blow to the palestinians but i hope that well find a way to make it. So also. Paid with full the prospect of. Contacts with the palestinians not the other wife not old bloke to be with the palestinians i should say the leaders have met with israeli leaders they certainly dont recognize israel diplomatically you mention the palestinians they completely reject the Abraham Accords and the deal of the century coming out of the white house is it worse now than it ever has been since camp david and before for the palestinians i hope not you know it showed the world out a way can you go forward from this blind hatred. And lead a far away do to stand in front of their own publics and tell them if there is an old model state we have to have a relationship with them thats very positive and he tells the palestinian or shows them that they were action which is all for negotiation and. Cawnpore my view is not not go for it oh if hes determined to fight there or whatever he takes and with whatever means but then the same time i strongly believe that 2 state solution is the only solution and i already stated many times that even if we take 515. 00 or 50 years after camp david when a breakthrough will be achieved you will need magnifying glass to feed the differences between what was on the table the camp david what will be agreed in hamas in gaza completely rejects this deal of the century what do you think theyre going to do next i understand that obviously israel was financing hamas youd know that israel am best moshi irans he knew you when you were deputy i. D. F. Chief what has happened with hamas from israeli financing to hamas now. Leading the struggle some palestinians would say against illegal Israeli Occupation you know we cannot replace the palestinians its somehow to happened that we we were ready to go ahead to do even though we dismantled israeli settlements in gaza i pulled out every israeli settler also and looked forward to cope with a deal with the palestinian. Authority and then the. Scenes then they accumulate to meet them look at the cover half of israel wait now. Flow may every every several years. Clash with them for some time and then. Fall forward some time with small exchanges or clashes its not good but its up there with the palestinians the opportunities there we are ready to concede the. Support the infrastructure as long as it doesnt go in the day where. We allow the qataris bait mainly the qataris to help them financially and its up to the Palestinian People we never settled with their will we will never accept always something acceptable and we are Strong Enough to fight it but i think that the the a berm accords should tell the palestinians that the time poor billy had come to have a 2nd sort about the old paradigm developing and to our right to come to terms to israel it would be better for them and i cannot deny its better for it well i dont need to remind hes a gross Human Rights Violations by israel when you are in leadership positions whether in the army or in the political as a political leader i should just ask you know why did you finance some us in the 1st place youre saying youre against terrorism but why was i must mean financed by israel anyway no we are not financing from us we just we allowed the qataris to finance them and we of course because we supply the electricity all we cannot afford it in our neighbors a major humanitarian crises we. We dont have. The gazans say we have the cool weather and weve come us with their political leaders and in government they leave 2000000 people which has their rights to have know my life. Suffering because of their own leadership and we are ready to put an end to it but its not up to us its up to the. Well israel has financed Hamas Israels ambassador to washington moshe rounds the deputy actually back then in back then was netanyahu himself Brigadier General hugh tex again israels military governor of gaza claimed that israel finances hamas what im trying to get to as to the relevance today is is israel financing islam ists terrorism throughout the middle east we saw netanyahu accused of supporting isis diane in syria against president assad we even know about israels role with iran in the iran contra scandal why does israel support islam is to violence. I think that you are totally longview you mentioned the shower an attorney out of his deputy it was so 2 years ago failed to you to go a generation ago. Are we involved in. Directly in. Contrast. Mao denial of vote and we see in iran post khomeini iran. Not to. Encourage any terrible israeli probably d. Most determined state in fighting against i mean israel obviously was part of the iran contra deal allowing weapons to be exported to iran and as you say these are historical details but how many years ago but how many is it hurted how many years ago did netanyahu meet with a legit isis diasur al qaeda sympathizers in the nato back to war against president assad of syria. I should admit they dont understand the open fictional fi story we are talking we are facing major injuries right now and you are talking about. Where i get to give you that but these only vent to you the gold totally you know i live on the wall paper now in the middle east former Prime Minister ill still be them or from israels former Prime Minister and defense minister after this break. Here thank you to all my social class Law School Class people also in a 1st class if youre born into a poor family if youre born into a minority family if youre born into a family that only has a single parent that really constrains your life chances people die lavish 15 years younger he pointed to generational poverty. Its a tough fight every day to meet your needs and the needs of your family. Welcome back im still here with a chance Prime Minister of israel ehud barak president rouhani of iran claims that there are forces supporting is the mystic stream is im obviously said the United States but he also says israel has been supporting that and many believe the abraham record accords in the preamble to a war on iraq i would not take going to hunt neal was going to make the job for the metro as. I know from the lie have been. Told things off information about. Is that totally biased and. No basis. The album called could be described as a defensive step against iranian expansion east. Regional intentions but not as they put the. Kind of face creep for fall of friends of friends of steps against iran iran of course denies it has any regional ambitions did you support Donald Trumps assassination of general custom sunni money the iranian general who up until recently had been working with u. S. Troops to defeat isis diane syria its an american operation its up to them i respect their right to act upon due judgment. Of their interest in their fighting against. Global terror all and if you ask me whether the world is a little bit safer place after suliman leave now to ease our thought i would tell you yes my answer affirmative general sulaimani was working with United States troops against isis day as netanyahu is pictured with islam ists who links to isis. Newness in the b. B. C. Here in britain found out that british support was ending up with islam ists in syria what im getting at is where is the support for islam is coming from in your region you know i dont know you and never met you but they can tell you judging from your question you have. A huge misperception of what willie happens in the middle east and im there truth to what extent it could be of value have been interviewed for we continue to to listen to your claims which i found totally disconnected from reality even. Im here all day with their names and they vent you have mentioned probably had happened im not sure this give believe iran a bluffing about retaliation for the assassination of customs and their money i dont see a value for continue to continue these below you know your right to frame the situation or the perception of the viewers of the situation upon your judgment and to ask me just to give more kind of what if occasion to it i do not accept your framing so i dont think that there is any value to continue doing. But all i was asking about was how big is the iranian threat to israel now that the United States assassinated one of their top generals i think that my english is not as good as yours but in plain english and very clear i dont believe you did do a way to continue an interview where in your own question youre too white to put an arm so. Im used to totally different interviews than i with all due respect i will ask you to end this interview will i have to ask you i mean im talking about Regional Security and the threats to israel you didnt want to be Prime Minister of israel until a few months ago im asking you about how secure israel is given the Abraham Accords given the assassination of cousin fil a money given the u. A. E. And bahrain becoming friends with israel you know i repeat it always with all due respect you have your opinion you have dont like where i know im asking for your opinion idea were in the o. T. For the brain and i know its going to i. I dont have the thin no no you dont ask my opinion i must gone for my heel gone for my of you discuss. Full of a minister. To respect my you white to fully and so your question im asking for your opinion about when israel says if intuition deeply embedded deeply deeply embedded in the open old or pinions you have yo white for having you know a penis but i am not i do not intend to cope with a boy to have death and thank you i really thank you very much for your help oto needed to talk to you about this i think. Im not sure why i. Came to it in. Former israeli Prime Minister ehud barak decided to end the interview there well joining me now for more is the editor in chief of the Jerusalem Post jack of cats check of thanks for coming back and we just spoke to former Prime Minister morocco before he left is a shadow strike do you think being prepared on iran like the one you wrote about on syria when barak was defense minister well i think that israel is always preparing for the possibility that there might be military action against Irans Nuclear facilities theres no doubt that if you were 20000. 00 you. Would pose a threat of an extension of nature to the fact that i told this dont hate their readiness or or desire 28. 00 this are off the map so israel would have to have that capability in place but i dont think were there yet because i suppose the context of why iran might want to retaliate is assassination cuz im still a money they may ram accords all manner of different geopolitical. Developments obviously iran denies any military Nuclear Capability do you think and i know youve been really critical of netanyahu hes actually become quite a good Prime Minister in your country hes succeeded in getting us support for the arguably alleged violations of International Law many resolutions he succeeded in getting gaulin israeli the embassy to jerusalem the j. C. B. Away and massive subsidy from the us to tackle coronavirus. Well i think that there are treatments and he hopes i think that there is the nuts and you know it was the statesman and you know it was diplomat and you know who knows how to work very well with other countries around the world and especially has cultivated particularly close ties and if special relationship an alliance with the current u. S. President donald trump and as a result has been able to achieve for israel a long list as some of them you mentioned Strategic Benefits i would say for israel but then theres another nixon you know the one who are more critical of who is i find to be a bit of a divisive politician i find his rhetoric to be sometimes antidemocratic i find some moves that hes made and the knesset Israels Parliament against the attorney general against our courts against the judicial system and principally and most recently his management of the Coronavirus Crisis in this country has been a complete failure sadly i say that and i wonder at times if its not as a result of the fact that the Prime Minister is very preoccupied with his own trial that is about to restart in january well see him sitting inside a courtroom 3 days a week for hours on end that is something that he definitely doesnt want to be it but this is a situation that needs a full time Prime Minister whos completely focused on the health and welfare of his citizens and i dont think that israel has that. Always been then you know denies the corruption charges he also deny that hes handled coronavirus pull income come given your editorials they know youve accuse netanyahu of wanting total chaos you sound like an iranian politician in some of your editorial for the durian post surely thats a thats a bit of a stretch i dont think im an arabian politician i think that what im doing and arent tauriel what were doing is we are holding what journalism is meant to be journalism is meant to be a watchdog for democracy that the real issue at. And is you just have to look at the numbers right and you know they pretty much speak for itself israel today has a heist an actual rate per capita much from a country that appeared in the 1st wave i respect in march and april very tough luck i should say one of the highest its not the highest more seriously is or went from a country to do very well the 1st rate for a country and now is locking down the 1st western countries locking down its just for a 2nd time with with draconian measures economy again which is already predicted by the o. E. C. D. To be taking a 6 percent drop after years of growth is going to continue more businesses will close down more people get sick where people sadly die this is not Good Management well you have a death rate in israel which is better capita than the one here in britain i should add and i suppose some light on us here to me more patriotic of course you gave a very good defense of what journalists as opposed to do that but i think one element to the abraham. Accords is palestinians have nowhere to go now theyve called it a stab in the back from the u. A. E. And bahrain whats your view as to whether saudi arabia was basically behind this deal involving theoretically trump netanyahu with bahrain in the u. A. E. Well i mean he threw a lot out of me right there so the let me just say firstly about the saudis involvement with the u. A. E. It seemed that they might have had a hand in it because it would be difficult to see the crown prince the United Arab Emirates commitments i make a move of this kind without the crown princes approval from saudi arabia and yes let me just say about the palestinians for a moment in my personal opinion israel now should be reaching out to the palestinians because were reaching out from point straight sadly there are intransigent theyre stuck in their old ways theyre theyre missing another they dont miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Began our famous diplomat once said many years ago still per. House but i would hope that maybe theyll come around to it and i hope that maybe through the arab world the pale