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RT Watching The Hawks July 12, 2024
Actually a very interesting time because of the peoples interest theres no way these social. Numbers tonight you can. Reflect. Greetings you. From the her. Questions to doubling down on
American Foreign
policy exceptionalism to the surprise appearance of
Jeff Goldblum
sitting comfortably in white princes head the recent
Vice President
ial debates between former
California Attorney
general harris and current
Vice President
my parents were a highlight reel of modern us political discourse a great example of this was seen in how the 2 candidates battled over whose
Political Party
has created or lost more us jobs than the other in our 1st 3 years after we cut through a glacial unleashed
American Energy
this administration saw 500008 1000000 jobs created joe biden is responsible for saving americas
Auto Industry
and you fought it against it but in the age of 19 its not just about the creation of jobs here in america its also about keeping workers safe at those jobs and according to a new complaint filed by the largest trade unions in the u. S. The
United States
government has been woefully and dangerously inadequate in
Workplace Safety
in this time of code 19 the
Washington Post
reports that the
Service Employees
International Union
in the a. F. L. Cio has filed a complaint with the
United Nations
International Labor
organization in geneva charging that the u. S. Government is violating workers rights in terms not typically associated with well off countries at one point saying the bind they bind many essential workers have been placed in during the pandemic forced to risk infection or lose their jobs and potentially
Unemployment Benefits
amounts to a system of forced labor the post goes on to note that the some of the complaints harshest accusations were over the trumpet ministrations executive orders the clear again history such as meat packing essential. Compelling them to stay open even amid potential novelle coronavirus outbreaks while federal agencies including osha declined to issue an forcible safety regulations so with no help coming from our elected officials out of home due to both the democrat republican partys fealty to corporate money power and influence u. S. Labor unions are now forced to look to the
United Nations
for help. Yes my friends it is come to that which means its time to start watching the hawks. Was on a city street. There so you. See this is this joyce state. Great city this lease systemic just says please show which. Some things are just as. Well who are going to watch it i robot and i will be surprised i mean its incredible that our workers here in the
United States
have now got to go to
International Bodies
you know
International Organizations
in order to try to hope to get some kind of rights back hope to get some kind of
Workplace Safety
thats that mind blowing and having a ball and so many ways for the past what 7 decades plus we have been seen as a nation that continually progressed when it came to workers rights and its just frustrating now that were going to institutions for assistance that we usually argue on behalf of other place. To go to when they are you know major problems like this the now were finding ourselves in that exact same lurch if theres a lot about our leadership it also says a lot about how demoralizing were actually making every day work for american citizens
Richard Trumka
the president of the c. E. O. Told the
Washington Post
quote covert has laid bare what we already knew it has done. Straighted that not only is the u. S. Violating workers rights but those violations are resulting in people die it became soil rageous that we wanted to file the complaint and when you look at the numbers it is kind of frightening when you see these you know you see them in this report when you lay it out that you see complaints to osha and then 1720 days later you see a spike in coronavirus best now thats enough correlation to say people were complaining but then you know now theyre getting hit because no one stepped up no one stepped up to say what will be
Workplace Safety
guidelines everything was kind of patchwork of what ever anybody could grab no it absolutely was and the other part is that if you work in a factory or if you work with machinery or if you did any of those types of industry level jobs you were one of the last people to get p. P. Equipping and you know they and their their families everyone is hearing about how 1000 is ravaging yet they still have to keep food on the table so theyre still going into work and the devastation is just been quite severe and these organizations have not paid any attention to the mandate that the state in many cases nor you know we have a lack of it at the federal level but they have not been attentive to any of the
Science Behind
1000 either so theyre risking a lot of potential workers when you say leg of the federal its interesting because the 1st thing people think of when they with think about
Workplace Safety
is osha you know the occupation safety and
Health Administration
their job is to enforce
Workplace Safety
so you know workers can silently and honestly say hey look some of my job sites dangerous can you come in and inspect but thats one of the major problems theyre saying is the cause of this is that in the 1935
National Labor
relations act commonly referred to as the wegner act that actives like so old it now excludes farmers contractors good workers and other types of more precarious employees from any kind of labor rights labor protection rights here in this country but getting the ocean. Researchers at harvard
Boston Boston
Childrens Hospital
and the masters
Purpose Department
of public to help from that to date the federal
Occupational Safety
hell. The administration has not issued any emergency or prominent standards specific to cope with 19 exposure at the workplace they have not issued any rulings as to how youre supposed to keep your workplace safe thats just the thing even worse as of august 13th 2020 osha has issued only 4 citations related to covert 19 moreover the total number of federal ocean spectrums of any kind during 2020 has been reduced by 2 thirds compared to the same period in prior years theyre inspecting less and theyve only found 4 instances in the entire country of a workplace not taking covert seriously and putting their workers in danger absolutely and their initial. 8 conversation about that was that they didnt want to expose their inspectors to. So youre not going in because you dont want to expose your own people meanwhile you are the organization that is supposed to provide the check in the balance for these corporations or these entities that are doing things that they shouldnt for their employees and i hate to say it but that is directly because of corporate influence on our politicians on the federal level and both parties are guilty of this no one you dont see many people go out say hey we need more inspectors at osha were going to fight for this osha has been gradually chipped away and chipped away and chipped away and now the trunk administration is come in and kind of put that chipping away on overdrive but journalist i want to point this out journalist david serota writes that ultimately what the g. O. P. Wants is an entire
American Workforce
that is legally barred from suing employers financially punished for refusing to return to unsafe work places and unable to call the workplace cops when lives are put in danger thats frightening because that is kind of the corporate idea were allowed up here to do whatever we want you work for us we pay you so you are then obliged to do whatever we say while the g. O. P. Is treating workers like cogs in a wheel they dont see them as human and they are a means of manufacturing so this isnt surprising but it is really frustrating because it also you know it breaks the back the unions as well because. The
Top Administration
in g. O. P. s consistently tried to strip them of their rights as well so thats typically the last stand for workers who really are trying to get their voices heard i hope that as we turn this i hope that at some point when this country starts turning around we start actually doing things to protect lives member me and you sat at this desk back in the spring when they had that big push to get people back to work saying i know what this is this is feeding people to the nightmare that is cobra i wish people would step up and try to change this in the future will keep our fingers crossed but as long as corporations have their chokehold in washington i dont think thats going to happen. With every passing day we get closer and closer to november 3rd yes that fateful day when the
United States
of america chooses a new commander in chief and in between now and then one message is being heard all across the country from maine to sandy eggo from politician to celebrity to social
Media Influencer
and that message is to get out and vote but in the age of coded gerrymandering and held on hold trump several states have already reported voting issues that are creating new concerns ahead of our great election day arties
Rachel Blevins
joins us now with all of the gritty details thank you for coming on rachel so. Lets look at florida floridas always were those big swing states we talk about every election and water the voting issues that were seeing take place in florida well if you look back at 200 florida was the state that passed as a landmark legislation that would allow some convicted felons to vote now at the time they saw it as something that would help hundreds of thousands of residents who had served their time convicted of very dangerous crimes and were still contributing to society but even though the majority of the state was in favor of it their new republican governor was not and so he launched this mission to really go against it into got those provisions and to add new requirements to it so now in 2020 we have them saying well convicted felons can vote as long as they dont owe any fines or fees to the state well that creates a whole new host of problems obviously because you have an incentive to get those people to vote in some ways and where you can even influence their vote and then at the same time you have felons who may not know exactly what the state so they can actually get into even more trouble with the law if they do move forward with voting. And you know another topic that is on the minds of a lot of people across this country because of a lot of the conversation weve heard from
President Trump
and his acolytes is around mail in voting and absentee ballots so what is new on that front how do we prove the fact versus the fiction when weve jeff only seen a big push without especially at a time when theyre trying to limit in person gatherings or telling people hey voter early send in your bollards do all of that stuff as early as possible well weve heard from voters in states like ohio and new york saying that they requested absentee ballots but then received either the wrong ballots altogether or the wrong form the wrong address that kind of thing now those technicalities are extremely important because when were talking about those ballots were looking at places where in the 2020 primaries alone more than half a 1000000 ballots were rejected and they can be rejected because. Is your signature look a little off because youre out of the middle initial here on this forum but not on this forum it can be any number of things to especially when were looking at an election and wondering if its going to be close what its going to look like every vote counts so those concerns that were hearing now are especially important in that theyre getting taken care of getting them out of movie now as we approach election day. Only a few weeks away but how i think the biggest question is given what youve been saying and what weve all been hearing about you dont get out and vote get out and vote vote early do. Those waters early you know how was early voting playing a role in this election you know what words are look like right now well so far they say that around 5600000 votes have been cast in early voting in the 2020 alexion that is far and above what we saw in 2016 and if we look back at 2016 we see an election where the voter turnout was at a 20 year low so over the last 4 years youve really seen that message turned youve really seen you know from whether it be celebrities any time you get on facebook or instagram theyre telling you hey pressure to vote get out and vote and were also in a time where a lot of people already know exactly who theyre voting for and they know that ahead of the debates and all of that so theyre much more likely to try to make their voice heard and to hope that everything goes as planned in their ballot is accepted and do you think that there are going how do you think this is going to play out on
Election Night
weve heard that you might not get a someone actually elected in cell weeks or a month later with what you know about whats going on with the ballots and early voting how do you think thats going to affect when america will know who the next president is was certainly is going to have an impact especially because you do have states saying that theyre either going to count those ballots the day after polls close or maybe that theyre even going to wait a few days so especially when it comes to those very important battleground states that are literally looking at every single ballot it is going to play a big role and its also going to play a big role to see how those 2 candidates handle it you know youve got the president saying that. Hes already wary of all of these ballots hes already concerned about this and so it will be interesting to see exactly how those days play out and how those candidates respond our rachel thank you so much for that update on all things voting here in the
United States
thank you thank you all right as we go to break remember that you can also start watching the hawks on the man to the brand new portable t. V. Which is available on all platforms definitely go check it out coming up were joined by author and pastor daniel hill to discuss the history and future of christianity and racism the
United States
of america definitely going to be a fascinating conversation so stay tuned to watch. The. Industry comes to life in los angeles every night. Dozens of women sells their bodies on the streets many of them underage. Los
Angeles Police
reveal a taste of their daily challenge no if youre going to exploit a child here in los angeles then were going to come as you see officers going undercover as 6 workers and customers to find 6 trades. That get a list of all the. People i work with you know what i get why did i do that how lucky. We hope to be but there are here are some friends that the us are still so that the so beautiful thing to do something to see. It sure. Wasnt it was at the rally i was going to but was there with a little back to the world that. Americans love and. This was a fundamental part of how our
Political Leadership
and our country at large understood the bargain you get a hope and then you know rebel right thats the things you dont revolt if you have a stake in the system. Of the really interesting to dial it back and think about the longer deeper history what housings man in the
United States
not just that question of the
American Dream
but the bigger question of who the dream is and for. Racism
White Supremacy
and a system of government that use race before personhood isnt anything new to america in fact its what this country was founded on from the early explorers who land owned by native americans and brutalized them to a country for treatment of blacks and latinos america seems to function on racial bias and exclusion but for black america there is a particularly nasty and pervasive level of abuse domestic terrorism legal discrimination and a limp dick level hurtles institutional racism and
White Supremacy
supremacy present in the
United States
. Slavery reconstruction jim crow the
Prison Industrial Complex
a subpar
Education System
lacks
Health Care Housing
equity you name it and somehow this country has created a nearly impenetrable system of racism is to keep blacks from progressing in a nation that speaks so heavily of its christian leanings its devotion to biblical principles and touts think often the actions of whites against their black counterparts dont exactly mirror jesuss teachings does the white church deny there is a race problem are these churches complicit why do they theyve leaders stand on the sidelines a new book titled white lies 9 ways to expose and resist the racial systems that divide us moves to answer those questions and more arthur and pastor daniel hill takes a deep dive into the cultural and historical trails of racism in america he not only defines
American Foreign<\/a> policy exceptionalism to the surprise appearance of
Jeff Goldblum<\/a> sitting comfortably in white princes head the recent
Vice President<\/a> ial debates between former
California Attorney<\/a> general harris and current
Vice President<\/a> my parents were a highlight reel of modern us political discourse a great example of this was seen in how the 2 candidates battled over whose
Political Party<\/a> has created or lost more us jobs than the other in our 1st 3 years after we cut through a glacial unleashed
American Energy<\/a> this administration saw 500008 1000000 jobs created joe biden is responsible for saving americas
Auto Industry<\/a> and you fought it against it but in the age of 19 its not just about the creation of jobs here in america its also about keeping workers safe at those jobs and according to a new complaint filed by the largest trade unions in the u. S. The
United States<\/a> government has been woefully and dangerously inadequate in
Workplace Safety<\/a> in this time of code 19 the
Washington Post<\/a> reports that the
Service Employees<\/a>
International Union<\/a> in the a. F. L. Cio has filed a complaint with the
United Nations<\/a>
International Labor<\/a> organization in geneva charging that the u. S. Government is violating workers rights in terms not typically associated with well off countries at one point saying the bind they bind many essential workers have been placed in during the pandemic forced to risk infection or lose their jobs and potentially
Unemployment Benefits<\/a> amounts to a system of forced labor the post goes on to note that the some of the complaints harshest accusations were over the trumpet ministrations executive orders the clear again history such as meat packing essential. Compelling them to stay open even amid potential novelle coronavirus outbreaks while federal agencies including osha declined to issue an forcible safety regulations so with no help coming from our elected officials out of home due to both the democrat republican partys fealty to corporate money power and influence u. S. Labor unions are now forced to look to the
United Nations<\/a> for help. Yes my friends it is come to that which means its time to start watching the hawks. Was on a city street. There so you. See this is this joyce state. Great city this lease systemic just says please show which. Some things are just as. Well who are going to watch it i robot and i will be surprised i mean its incredible that our workers here in the
United States<\/a> have now got to go to
International Bodies<\/a> you know
International Organizations<\/a> in order to try to hope to get some kind of rights back hope to get some kind of
Workplace Safety<\/a> thats that mind blowing and having a ball and so many ways for the past what 7 decades plus we have been seen as a nation that continually progressed when it came to workers rights and its just frustrating now that were going to institutions for assistance that we usually argue on behalf of other place. To go to when they are you know major problems like this the now were finding ourselves in that exact same lurch if theres a lot about our leadership it also says a lot about how demoralizing were actually making every day work for american citizens
Richard Trumka<\/a> the president of the c. E. O. Told the
Washington Post<\/a> quote covert has laid bare what we already knew it has done. Straighted that not only is the u. S. Violating workers rights but those violations are resulting in people die it became soil rageous that we wanted to file the complaint and when you look at the numbers it is kind of frightening when you see these you know you see them in this report when you lay it out that you see complaints to osha and then 1720 days later you see a spike in coronavirus best now thats enough correlation to say people were complaining but then you know now theyre getting hit because no one stepped up no one stepped up to say what will be
Workplace Safety<\/a> guidelines everything was kind of patchwork of what ever anybody could grab no it absolutely was and the other part is that if you work in a factory or if you work with machinery or if you did any of those types of industry level jobs you were one of the last people to get p. P. Equipping and you know they and their their families everyone is hearing about how 1000 is ravaging yet they still have to keep food on the table so theyre still going into work and the devastation is just been quite severe and these organizations have not paid any attention to the mandate that the state in many cases nor you know we have a lack of it at the federal level but they have not been attentive to any of the
Science Behind<\/a> 1000 either so theyre risking a lot of potential workers when you say leg of the federal its interesting because the 1st thing people think of when they with think about
Workplace Safety<\/a> is osha you know the occupation safety and
Health Administration<\/a> their job is to enforce
Workplace Safety<\/a> so you know workers can silently and honestly say hey look some of my job sites dangerous can you come in and inspect but thats one of the major problems theyre saying is the cause of this is that in the 1935
National Labor<\/a> relations act commonly referred to as the wegner act that actives like so old it now excludes farmers contractors good workers and other types of more precarious employees from any kind of labor rights labor protection rights here in this country but getting the ocean. Researchers at harvard
Boston Boston<\/a>
Childrens Hospital<\/a> and the masters
Purpose Department<\/a> of public to help from that to date the federal
Occupational Safety<\/a> hell. The administration has not issued any emergency or prominent standards specific to cope with 19 exposure at the workplace they have not issued any rulings as to how youre supposed to keep your workplace safe thats just the thing even worse as of august 13th 2020 osha has issued only 4 citations related to covert 19 moreover the total number of federal ocean spectrums of any kind during 2020 has been reduced by 2 thirds compared to the same period in prior years theyre inspecting less and theyve only found 4 instances in the entire country of a workplace not taking covert seriously and putting their workers in danger absolutely and their initial. 8 conversation about that was that they didnt want to expose their inspectors to. So youre not going in because you dont want to expose your own people meanwhile you are the organization that is supposed to provide the check in the balance for these corporations or these entities that are doing things that they shouldnt for their employees and i hate to say it but that is directly because of corporate influence on our politicians on the federal level and both parties are guilty of this no one you dont see many people go out say hey we need more inspectors at osha were going to fight for this osha has been gradually chipped away and chipped away and chipped away and now the trunk administration is come in and kind of put that chipping away on overdrive but journalist i want to point this out journalist david serota writes that ultimately what the g. O. P. Wants is an entire
American Workforce<\/a> that is legally barred from suing employers financially punished for refusing to return to unsafe work places and unable to call the workplace cops when lives are put in danger thats frightening because that is kind of the corporate idea were allowed up here to do whatever we want you work for us we pay you so you are then obliged to do whatever we say while the g. O. P. Is treating workers like cogs in a wheel they dont see them as human and they are a means of manufacturing so this isnt surprising but it is really frustrating because it also you know it breaks the back the unions as well because. The
Top Administration<\/a> in g. O. P. s consistently tried to strip them of their rights as well so thats typically the last stand for workers who really are trying to get their voices heard i hope that as we turn this i hope that at some point when this country starts turning around we start actually doing things to protect lives member me and you sat at this desk back in the spring when they had that big push to get people back to work saying i know what this is this is feeding people to the nightmare that is cobra i wish people would step up and try to change this in the future will keep our fingers crossed but as long as corporations have their chokehold in washington i dont think thats going to happen. With every passing day we get closer and closer to november 3rd yes that fateful day when the
United States<\/a> of america chooses a new commander in chief and in between now and then one message is being heard all across the country from maine to sandy eggo from politician to celebrity to social
Media Influencer<\/a> and that message is to get out and vote but in the age of coded gerrymandering and held on hold trump several states have already reported voting issues that are creating new concerns ahead of our great election day arties
Rachel Blevins<\/a> joins us now with all of the gritty details thank you for coming on rachel so. Lets look at florida floridas always were those big swing states we talk about every election and water the voting issues that were seeing take place in florida well if you look back at 200 florida was the state that passed as a landmark legislation that would allow some convicted felons to vote now at the time they saw it as something that would help hundreds of thousands of residents who had served their time convicted of very dangerous crimes and were still contributing to society but even though the majority of the state was in favor of it their new republican governor was not and so he launched this mission to really go against it into got those provisions and to add new requirements to it so now in 2020 we have them saying well convicted felons can vote as long as they dont owe any fines or fees to the state well that creates a whole new host of problems obviously because you have an incentive to get those people to vote in some ways and where you can even influence their vote and then at the same time you have felons who may not know exactly what the state so they can actually get into even more trouble with the law if they do move forward with voting. And you know another topic that is on the minds of a lot of people across this country because of a lot of the conversation weve heard from
President Trump<\/a> and his acolytes is around mail in voting and absentee ballots so what is new on that front how do we prove the fact versus the fiction when weve jeff only seen a big push without especially at a time when theyre trying to limit in person gatherings or telling people hey voter early send in your bollards do all of that stuff as early as possible well weve heard from voters in states like ohio and new york saying that they requested absentee ballots but then received either the wrong ballots altogether or the wrong form the wrong address that kind of thing now those technicalities are extremely important because when were talking about those ballots were looking at places where in the 2020 primaries alone more than half a 1000000 ballots were rejected and they can be rejected because. Is your signature look a little off because youre out of the middle initial here on this forum but not on this forum it can be any number of things to especially when were looking at an election and wondering if its going to be close what its going to look like every vote counts so those concerns that were hearing now are especially important in that theyre getting taken care of getting them out of movie now as we approach election day. Only a few weeks away but how i think the biggest question is given what youve been saying and what weve all been hearing about you dont get out and vote get out and vote vote early do. Those waters early you know how was early voting playing a role in this election you know what words are look like right now well so far they say that around 5600000 votes have been cast in early voting in the 2020 alexion that is far and above what we saw in 2016 and if we look back at 2016 we see an election where the voter turnout was at a 20 year low so over the last 4 years youve really seen that message turned youve really seen you know from whether it be celebrities any time you get on facebook or instagram theyre telling you hey pressure to vote get out and vote and were also in a time where a lot of people already know exactly who theyre voting for and they know that ahead of the debates and all of that so theyre much more likely to try to make their voice heard and to hope that everything goes as planned in their ballot is accepted and do you think that there are going how do you think this is going to play out on
Election Night<\/a> weve heard that you might not get a someone actually elected in cell weeks or a month later with what you know about whats going on with the ballots and early voting how do you think thats going to affect when america will know who the next president is was certainly is going to have an impact especially because you do have states saying that theyre either going to count those ballots the day after polls close or maybe that theyre even going to wait a few days so especially when it comes to those very important battleground states that are literally looking at every single ballot it is going to play a big role and its also going to play a big role to see how those 2 candidates handle it you know youve got the president saying that. Hes already wary of all of these ballots hes already concerned about this and so it will be interesting to see exactly how those days play out and how those candidates respond our rachel thank you so much for that update on all things voting here in the
United States<\/a> thank you thank you all right as we go to break remember that you can also start watching the hawks on the man to the brand new portable t. V. Which is available on all platforms definitely go check it out coming up were joined by author and pastor daniel hill to discuss the history and future of christianity and racism the
United States<\/a> of america definitely going to be a fascinating conversation so stay tuned to watch. The. Industry comes to life in los angeles every night. Dozens of women sells their bodies on the streets many of them underage. Los
Angeles Police<\/a> reveal a taste of their daily challenge no if youre going to exploit a child here in los angeles then were going to come as you see officers going undercover as 6 workers and customers to find 6 trades. That get a list of all the. People i work with you know what i get why did i do that how lucky. We hope to be but there are here are some friends that the us are still so that the so beautiful thing to do something to see. It sure. Wasnt it was at the rally i was going to but was there with a little back to the world that. Americans love and. This was a fundamental part of how our
Political Leadership<\/a> and our country at large understood the bargain you get a hope and then you know rebel right thats the things you dont revolt if you have a stake in the system. Of the really interesting to dial it back and think about the longer deeper history what housings man in the
United States<\/a> not just that question of the
American Dream<\/a> but the bigger question of who the dream is and for. Racism
White Supremacy<\/a> and a system of government that use race before personhood isnt anything new to america in fact its what this country was founded on from the early explorers who land owned by native americans and brutalized them to a country for treatment of blacks and latinos america seems to function on racial bias and exclusion but for black america there is a particularly nasty and pervasive level of abuse domestic terrorism legal discrimination and a limp dick level hurtles institutional racism and
White Supremacy<\/a> supremacy present in the
United States<\/a>. Slavery reconstruction jim crow the
Prison Industrial Complex<\/a> a subpar
Education System<\/a> lacks
Health Care Housing<\/a> equity you name it and somehow this country has created a nearly impenetrable system of racism is to keep blacks from progressing in a nation that speaks so heavily of its christian leanings its devotion to biblical principles and touts think often the actions of whites against their black counterparts dont exactly mirror jesuss teachings does the white church deny there is a race problem are these churches complicit why do they theyve leaders stand on the sidelines a new book titled white lies 9 ways to expose and resist the racial systems that divide us moves to answer those questions and more arthur and pastor daniel hill takes a deep dive into the cultural and historical trails of racism in america he not only defines
White Supremacy<\/a> and gives real world context but also speaks to the ideology that makes it so hard to root out and give step specifically for the church on the work they have to do in teaching equity standing with black people and making america live up to its ideals. Hill is a
Racial Equity<\/a> advocate pastor of
River City Church<\/a> a more multiethnic congregation to congo and is on a mission to lead
Church Leaders<\/a> the yawn the racism deeply embedded in the
White Evangelical Church<\/a> daniel hill joins us now to discuss his book it takes all
White Supremacy<\/a> for biblical lands welcome daniel. Who i mean. So you and i go way back were both chicago people i know of your church quite a bit and youre someone who leaves this massive most high
Cultural Church<\/a> in what is one of the well it is americas most segregated city chicago youve seen promise that are the results of community vestment a bias criminal
Justice System<\/a> the results of redlining how are these things addressed in your church and how does your congregation live out the examples that you set out in your book. You know thats a big question. I think if youve heard the analogy right of. If theres babies being coming down to the stream of a river and you try to help the babies are coming down but at some point you have to go upstream if youre out why the babys right over the water in the 1st place i would say that that describes the full range of a lot of were trying to do as a church is try to support folks who are trying to navigate what you call those im excited hurdles and you know trying to walk with folks as they do that but then at the same time were trying to take a deeper look at the foundations at the roots of what has led to these
Racial Disparities<\/a> in the 1st place and to really equipped people to be true tellers that can really uproot the ideology of
White Supremacy<\/a> from everywhere that it lives its interesting you know i i want to ask you this because it comes up a lot especially now with the election and all of that and you see a lot of you know evangelical white churches and
Church Members<\/a> or politicians or belong to you know talking about you know their connection with god and jesus and all that but historically speaking you know
White Evangelical Church<\/a>es have not had the greatest of records when it comes to
Race Relations<\/a> in this country you know they upheld slavery. They backed jim crow. Back agree just and im just sentencing at times and they constantly have ignored the rights of black people throughout up until now in present day you know do you think there is hope for those
White Evangelical Church<\/a>es who have this nasty history. You know up is there hope for them to get better when it comes to racism in this country. Well i agree with you and all those things you said and despite the touch reputation that comes with that word even joke along one of them im a white image of a pastor and so i see 1st and all that i think there are many of us who dream deeply that thats both our history and our current reality but you know there are those of us who have seen the kind of profound sin both historically and in present times and are doing our best to name that to repent of and confess of a
Leader People<\/a> in a different direction so i have to hope that the very core of my faith is not a matter of being the center you are you can find redemption and so thats my hope for those of us in the white evangelical community as well. And then you in your book you try to when you talk about this this recognition of evil i think that thats a thats a big thing in the christian charge in general all the evils of the world as opposed to be fighting against not just your role as a christian but the jellicoe church has largely not made any noise about societal problem of
White Supremacy<\/a> or recognizing that as been a central evil why do you think its so important right now in this nation at this point in this nations history and what advice would you give
Church Leaders<\/a> who are grappling with how to speak to their congregation on this touchy issue. You know when im with white pastors were doing this work id remind them that we have to take a historical viewpoint of it and the reality is christianity in america is really unique as opposed to other places because its part of our origin story
White Supremacy<\/a> christianity grew up together here in the
United States<\/a> and so this is a new for
White Christian<\/a> to be turning a blind eye towards what supremacy as you did that powerful introduction. We had to learn how to look the other way during colonialism and genocide we had to look the other way as slavery became kind of the norm for building our economy and so seeing drained into our system of coming to believe deeply in jesus and somehow learning to look the other way when it comes to black suffering and so i dont think thats a representation of jesus at all i think a clear view of jesus demands that we tell the truth and deal with this but unfortunately christians have learned how to coexist where they think about personal faith and some are able to turn a blind eye to black suffering is that hard to find that hard and you find that you know pretty rampant in the evangelical or in the white evangelical community where it says where they kind of is that hypocrisy is how rampant is that in your in your ventures in kind of dealing with this. Where i think its rampant you know i think in every circle we are all having to deal with kind of some of the brainwashing that comes with
White Supremacy<\/a> and so i think in
White Christian<\/a> circles particularly i have a joke on more conservative spaces theres been this kind of i would almost call it a propaganda that has treated things like racism and
White Supremacy<\/a> black lives matter so like that they treated it as need labeled as kind of leftist social movements that arent directly relevant to their faith and so once a waitress comes to believe that they just stop thinking about it and so the best of even joke with them as i have grown up and it is that there is this view that god is beautiful and loving and its revealed god self through the bible and through the person of jesus and that when we follow and when you know were most alive when were loving our neighbor and so what im trying to say is like you know you missed it very early on right to love jesus to hate
White Supremacy<\/a> and thats kind of the core message in every white circle on minutes that to love jesus to hate
White Supremacy<\/a> and thats a new unfortunates a new idea in a lot of spaces but the good news is a lot of people are hearing that going oh well i do love jews so i guess that means i need to learn to hate
White Supremacy<\/a> as i can solve everything better communicate and starting point is to start thinking like that most awfully do i want to ask this too as do organizations like the
Southern Baptist<\/a> convention and other groups have an imperative to change i mean weve already seen the s. P. Moved to change its name and and released a statement during the
George Floyd Protests<\/a> you know do you feel the church is moving forward or is this more kind of performative walking is just to make sure no one points a finger at them. It will be both you know i think theres were seeing fits and starts and some of it i think that nick a lot of it i think is temporary and then we revert back to our bad patterns my word and whites but you know i think we need a
Critical Mass<\/a> of
White Christian<\/a>s or need to try to change i mean i think we should be active but you know theres a biblical image in the
Old Testament<\/a> sackcloth and ashes where once our community recognized how evil the their day was and how they participate in it they would wear 2nd at the mashes as a sign of their repentance for participating in the evil and so really what im hoping for i dont know what a
Critical Mass<\/a> to be 20 percent 30 percent 40 percent but i think what is a
Critical Mass<\/a> in the white church just even acknowledge our complicity with this evil and to repent of their complicity i think is going to change the tenor of the conversation and you know whites from shell still be a monster in a day to take on but thats where im really hoping a large percentage of the white church will begin it with kind of having their own sackcloth and ashes moment about how profound
White Supremacy<\/a> is how evil it is and how complicit weve been in giving it safe haven. And daniel churches are known to be the most segregated place in america pacifically on sundays but every other day of the week so thank you for you know leading this multicultural charge of yours but also for you know speaking out against one of the societal ills and again from knowing you for a while i know that this isnt something that you just jumped on today you have been about this for years now and i think that your book could have the opportunity to showcase a lot of how the church can actually step forward. And thank you mission is very meaningful and thank you very much for coming on the day and talking to our audience about this and then look forward to having you on in the future so that its important to you know hear this message about you know how to balance their faith you know with
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