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The in San Francisco in 1900 specially the anti mosque league was formed and that sort of fizzled out because it was a social media to keep it going but back then there were objections to Wearing Masks with the same as were seeing today they said we dont believe that masks are effective and we think of that as a violation of our Civil Liberties those reasons then of the same as the reasons today when you survey people once weve been doing our research theyll say their biggest complaint is they dont think theyre affective these are the people who are hard core and the mask is i should back up and say most people are ok with Wearing Masks ery certain other studies show that 85 percent of people are ok with it theyre down with it but its those people think that ineffective and i dont like being told what to do its called psychological reactance president being here also pretty familiar with a large body of research that people tend to be concerned as the nation that there is. 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Support i think 1st of all you shouldnt get all your news from social media because social media can present a distorted picture get your news from reliable sources agree its important to critically think through things the impact on yourself and the community but you also remember that managing this pandemic involves all of us agreeing to give up our freedoms in small ways to do a number of things and no single thing is going to be a magic bullet a vaccine by itself wont be enough wearing a must quite so far be enough we have to engage in all of these things to follow what is currently understood as a best practice even Just National small little satirizes freedom and they just happen to. Be read their lives in myras recent data. A Stanford Prison Experiment in a. Way says mary. Exchanging freedom for designs is naturally. Leaning. Towards solitary well when you say to those who are deserve. So much how are you getting the power. 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Know its not new at all in fact thats a strategy thats been long been used its actually been used to help encourage people to get vaccinated against seasonal influenza its a do it for the herd idea that even if you think yourself youre impervious to get sick or stop america you do it to protect others around you and that appeal to else who is im im coming very helpful is our summer slipping by now that. Is the number one race driving. This is something that people ghastly. And one of the things that is troubling to me is that theres little discussion among the governments and you know thats true for many countries in. Very new people talking about the need. To actually be watchful of what you put into the mouth. It sounds like to me at least likely because. Offering people an easy solution and protection a young guy or that is often a german not by social interactions that actually laughter who. 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That its very politically incorrect that this is russia. Again back to the narrative of maybe narratives vary from country to country in canada the narrative is because and n. B. C. Safe so its a jewel thing you owe to yourself and your community but getting. Back to the the obesity issue that is a long term problem that is not a quick fix and so i think it would be unreasonable to insist that a person manage their obesity during pandemic when the but so many other things to manage that might be something left best to the pandemic is over but professor jeremy called your seminary law to. Be a logical. Argument and specifically hiding and sugar on. Drugs etc lisa you carry. Into. Information etc. So. If we accept. Rubles you have people. Even during the production rademacher given. These and. Its an interesting complex question im not aware of any Research Showing that a rapid diet keeps you safe from covered 19 that needs to be studied more but we also need to consider all the stresses that people are under at this point and maybe leaving the diet thing till after the pandemic but its a personal choice of course. Being better everybody owns everybody some of the ability to think about each other had im. Not just how do you contribute to society but i just struggle refining your we are doing. No wrong blatancy. Do you have any suggestions on this. Well yes blaming and shaming that been used a lot and its almost a natural human response but it just makes a bad situation even worse i mean you can take charge of your your own behavior and try to be compassionate to others but in an individual istic societies if you go around and trying to tell other people what to do that is likely to backfire. He indeed. Is the very very soon were going to ask you that. You know be told understeering that he should also you know what to eat. Well i guess you could if you wanted to but i again i dont think thats as bigger a problem as its been made out to be the obesity is linked to coexisting general medical conditions which lead to mortality and i would i would suggest that we can leave obesity till a