Hello and welcome to cross talk were all things are considered im Peter LabelleAmerican Media greed nearly in lockstep avoiding to practice journalism again ideology trumps common sense reality and after the election how many voters will say not my president. To discuss these topics and more im joined by my guest george samueli in budapest he is an author and a you tuber abacab goal and here in moscow were joined by Dmitri Bobbitt shes a political analyst and editor at interest me internet media project hi gentlemen crossed up rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated where lets go to georgia in budapest 1st well george this is the last time well be doing this format before the election here and i think for me since this programming cross talk in general is a lot on the media you know irrespective of the outcome on tuesday then the media really acquitted themselves into the deplorable way this election cycle because we have at the very very end and im not saying you know we like this october surprise of the hunter by laptop i mean lets just put that aside here its. As a news story in the media for the law for the most part there are some exceptions but for the most part refused to recognize this is a fact that it is important for people to make decisions about their political future they talk a lot about outside meddling if the media is meddling in the selection george yes youre absolutely right. In pots theyve been intimidated by the Clinton Campaign and by the democrats since 2016 so theyve been accused of having publicized the disclosures the wiki leaks and helping. Trump when i was helping the kremlin so just to be you know fans of the media i think theyve been scared of touching this because again they think of trump wins then they will be blamed for this picture but that doesnt excuse the refusal to invest in something that is clearly news because here we have the man who presumably or this according to the polls will be the next president of the United States was using his name to enrich his family and he was his family was in business with some very dicey people helping the Chinese Government which after all but going to be one of the big issues of the coming decade america has. A rivalry competition whatever with china and here with here is this man was going to be the president who is ready seems to be batting for the other team. Helping the Chinese Government to infiltrate itself within American Life through bidens family that is a very very big deal for the media just to ignore it is simply a series there are leaks of. You know essentially what they have done is theyve suspended their professionalism what little they handed it and they suspended commonsense and any sense of ethical behavior in it shows their partisanship i mean theyve shown their colors to everyone here they dont want to look into a real story because the russia gate hoax was a hoax ok this has forensic evidence ok so theyre suspending any kind of ethical. Sense whatsoever in a george were not theyre afraid i dont care if theyre afraid that this is not about being afraid its about whats truth what is real go ahead well its very interesting that george sat in the media is afraid of being bullied and for trumps victory you know that reminds me or pathetic terry and societyis you know where if something functions then the media is blamed for long enough attention or for you know some how could you know with any means and we have credit bought during the elections 20162020 part of there i would see more. Absurd and against and so i have just recently read in the Foreign Affairs there is an article headlined an american style prime to accept their adversaries narrative of doubt the author is more or rosenberger and heres how the story begins Russias Internet Research Agency crammed into link company that executives in who are a parishioner organized religious war thing support of president elect drum and in protest against him but event and had been demonstrations called trump is not my president drew as many as 10000 people to the streets so this is just amazing i mean that not just accuse jewels or you know of a creator. More than financial economy and then also organize in the Great Depression in 130 in the same way you know this. Publication Foreign Affairs if you loose russia will both help in trying to win and then organizing and really against you you know this is just amazing what theyre suggesting and the same story here i mean bidens connections to china and to you know the we door world moskos matter i mean these are facts you know when they write for example that these allegations or unclear provenance this is against again the Foreign Affairs a recent new york 4 story evolved by them some hard to information on clear provenance well the provenance is very clear to anybody instead you know we have seen this man in france and block you know on certain questions saw Tucker Carlson very interesting information ok you may think whatever you want about 20 probably instead he doesnt seem like a very see when you character to me but at least you know pay some attention but the reaction from the Mainstream Media was who cares about the son of a biden hes our sob and by then thats why you can be excused for everything you know but we have heard that this was not the american way i mean the americans have been teaching us here in russia in hungary in poor they have been teaching us for 30 years this is not the american way and now we see that this is the american way against a guy thats information again its the suspension ok suspension of any kind of ethical behavior of common sense of logic george you know since dealers brought it up at the Foreign Affairs article i mean another another publication that i used with miers. I mean reduced to click bait ok and there mongering. Its really shameful but george you want i just program tucked in the summer of 201400 by working for but recently i mean we talked about articles that were published by politico i mean if this story has been around for a long time and the the American Media makes it sound like its a complete myth but think the same media reported upon it ok and actually threw up some red flags which the Vice President s im doing here and now in the last couple of weeks ever since this story broke or that the next level of the story broke they said they make it sound like its come out of nowhere and its russian implement this information but in 2000 summer of 2014 they didnt make that claim did they go ahead joe yes yes that no thats exactly right it was reported now admitted. It was it wasnt reported in any way in which russia gate has been reported and so this is what often happens in the media that they report something they you know theres one story about it that theres no follow up and b. Forget about that but then they can say well we didnt report it look heres a story from 2014 in which we actually reported it but yeah but wheres the the energy and those neal that you poured into hunting down. The trunk of the geisha. The charisma case is a very serious one because here we have definitely points towards joe biden because biden was clearly into being and a criminal investigation all the companies that he was a director at the time that he was the point man on the board of directors or what the board of directors the board of directors yes. He. Did this while he was the point man on your grade and you know he got rid of the prosecutor he brought in somebody who was clearly not qualified to be a prosecutor and within months. The case against barisan was closed down so here there is something very much to investigate because this directly points toward biden but instead the media have repeated a talking point oh everybody wanted this prosecute the riot it wasnt just biden oh the big case against the barisan there was goldman it wasnt really being investigated but just repeating talking points instead of doing any Serious Investigation because there is plenty of evidence showing that that committee was being investigated at the time the bidens in the building. And that the case was brought to an end so you. Know definite motive behind bidens intervention and lo and behold a few months later the case against morrison was close but george v. You know they didnt want to put any effort into that story but they put all their effort into a nonstory in job that they all created themselves ok i mean the irony here of things that are no a ball again as opposed to things that are completely invented by Anonymous Sources you know they the malpractise committed by the media surrounding the bite family its not going to go away i mean they think that everyones going to fit get know and theres enough information out there as ive said to george that apple is that you know you can call these people you know get in these even give them a call and say this is true or not ok and oh we have evidence that a Wire Transfer i mean you do you admit this wire trend i mean its completely different then the rush again hoax because there was no evidence in this case or so a trail had been apparently all around the world. Oh oh yes and i would cite several concrete examples i mean there was a team will report to us from the main. The American Media king to prague because there are some engagements that there was a meeting is there in prague over russian intelligence official with some people from trans complain and it transpired that these media never took place actually knew the russian intelligence official was there nor drums people. They did interviews with broadwell if they didnt they didnt need a new one from russia that then the same story about mana for allegedly needs in a haunch will have been immediate with the songs in london and this Ecuadorian Embassy which never happened but there have been dozens so logical so about that right and here we have a situation there was a meeting and there was a Money Transfer and serious stony buildings in flesh and blood underneath your questions why waste it on 3 of the questions for dr carson because you already felt there was a campaign against you as being the russian agent so decided he decided to come clean you can give your answers you know if Tucker Carlson interviewed him you can also interview right no one is interviewing him because its not in their narrative i mean the problem with that if theyre in the press is that it is all the interested in narratives that feed its a gender i mean with ukraine again ok maybe a lot of people didnt like that prosecutor victor short can call home well by them going treadle but there were aerial bomb being of the socalled separatists c. D. s and even got to jump into the ceiling breaking into the heart break and continue on in our discussion and some real estate party. Well the pandemic no certainly no borders and is blind to nationalities. Has emerged we dont observe the we dont look like seeing the whole world beats to the. People. Judging. Commentary prices please listen to. We can do better we should. Everyone is contributing nature our own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenge is creating the response has been masked so many good people are helping us. It makes us feel very proud that were in it together. Welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered im curious about remind you were talking about the upcoming election. Put it was go back to georgia in budapest on this program in december of 2016 ouster the election of donald trump i asked my viewers if the force regime change catalog playbook that the u. S. Has played around the world with a vengeance since the breakup of yugoslavia if that playbook has been brought to the United States and i think in fact equally yes its been brought to the United States and what were getting here is a projects. By those that want to make sure the trump is not reelected is that they themselves are meddling in this election they are the ones that are creating confusion theyre the ones that. Rely upon conspiratorial ideas and what it does is it is destroying. Confidence in institutions and in the idea of democracy itself go ahead george yes indeed and what were seeing now is the classic a regime change operation that weve seen in other countries we have the polls putting out ridiculous numbers you know with double digit leads by them which suggests a massive landslide and then we have the newspaper story is already you know anticipating who will be in the Biden Cabinet and the drumbeat is that the election is in the bag but trump has been defeated and that sure that result not mean. Gerry lies short on if it happens on tuesday night the trump is one or that its inconclusive and that theres going to be fights in the courts then there will be a drumbeat a consensus that trump stole this election or the trump is in the process of stealing the election but hes the dems to challenge votes in the courts is really an attempt to steal the election and then you have to wonder whether what happened in other countries will in happen in the United States that would be riots in the streets the the democrats may as well refuse to do anything about them and then you have to wonder about the deep state what would happen if lets say the military refuse trumps order to send in the National Guard to bring in to put an end to the riots could happen i mean you know who he doesnt enjoy huge amount of loyalty within the pentagon they say no we dont really consider you the legitimate president were not going to send in the National Guard what happens if it was a rebellion within the department of justice and said no were not going to go file claims in the courts challenging these counts and then there will be the drumbeat and you can you even wonder whether math wrong and michael will step in and say well i think President Trump should do the right thing and step down. Because i hear about saying its going to happen but its quite quite possible that theres an aria for the coming days but this scenario has been played out when you look at what happened in what was called yugoslavia with milosevic look what happened in ukraine with the you know kobe its ok because the trigger as you mentioned the trigger is. We have to question the good bilin of the of the election thats their thats their playbook take once you can get good people that we need to question the outcome of the election thats when they go in full blast ok because youve already destroyed the. Any sense of legitimacy its you know how do we remedy it thats what they always do ok and its almost always or by definition beyond any kind of constitutional decision you have to felipe ok deemer are we going down the right out there because i am absolutely convinced the kind of manipulation that the u. S. Employees trends changing regimes are bron the same thing is being done now against the American People oh absolutely and its i think its a case of some kind of do you mind on your mind just just because the whole country has for many years have been living in fear every time that action was coming and that was the case in yugoslavia that was the case in ukraine recently that was the case in belarus knowledge and mary comes up basically are basically tried you know asked to create their own medicine and it started not withdrawn but started with obama in 2016 because i think a bomb are well thats my opinion he was the warmest president in u. S. History because he destroyed several very important rules rules that i would call institutions in a ways it was under obama that special services for the 1st time would involve full scale in there in the Media Campaign you know they were mentioned in the media all the time you know in 2016 you know cormier was accused of releasing information on clintons case to cause to be elections or you were supposed to minimize by the democrats and then he was lionized by the democrats when he went against wrong so special services would involved in the political process big under obama for the 1st time i dont remember any president s before that a bomb and not only indorsed his partys candidate you openly can paint against their position candidate in 2016 remember how obama pub. Promised the 7 members that prompt would not be the next american president i mean i mean who the hell was mr obama to promise it to foreign aid post to be decided by the voters ok make it good use do it this guys going to be a condor not at the party of years of america. So when i read in the Foreign Affairs im dodging on that i mentioned as a result us society may be all the more susceptible to foreign attempts to saul dollop of both the integrity of the democratic process well i mean the democratic press or basically the Mainstream Press sympathizing with the democrats lets be clear about that that the Mainstream Press sympathizing with the democrats has been so in dollars during all of these years they accused trump of not accepting defeat if hes defeated they cure strom or preparing not to leave the white house if he is defeated you know you remember all these stories you remember how well trump made an irresponsible statement about it he is leaving office but then the democrats you know peddle did so many times so yeah youre right its the same playbook you know my being is that people should not fear elections bob under this new idea what would we have a situation when every direction is a risk so ok elections should be completed should not be inspired in future in people and they are inferior now you know i mean it should be a risk it shouldnt engender fear but you know that that. Assumes george that the authorities the people who run the country the professional manager rea