So it isnt that its you go the recount way rather than anything else yeah the well theres the so yes the law actually was amazingly. Enough predictions of violence and we did not happen. Theres 2 kinds of recounts that your listeners should know 1st 1st recount when its mandated by law so its a wisconsin burzum bill the election binding will inspire less than one percent then theres an automatic recount in the state pays for. Yes. There is no triggering for an automatic recount you get in or trust the recount but if you request a recount and you lose then you pay for the recount which is no use of dollars you know they have enough money to do that but in general in the last i think the study on familiar of the last 10 or 12 recounts. The total 0 change was average 380. 00 so both recounts never really changed. Yet but on the other hand this is also a pretty unusual election. Especially considering they do have an emperor of mail in ballots i mean over a 100000000 people voted early isnt that actually i mean putting trump aside isnt that actually a Pretty Healthy prudent thing when you have such a major procedural change just to go back and revisit what have or not has and im not disagreeing with you that certainly its better to recount them than to go out in the streets and protest i was just pointing out theres 2 kinds and generally or you can go back and do them their overwhelming evidence is they dont really change anything. Because theyre out by machines and ballots are their own and so its very hard and electoral process they have both republicans and democrats there when they feed them in an hour or so you switched which is a good thing meaning when you do recount it doesnt change things very often going to shoot. Now i come from a country of a low level of social trust and its a pretty rich history of electoral manipulation saw forgive me in my skepticism but i wouldnt while want that be may have votes you take on such proportions here in russia but given that the United States considers itself a translator of democratic practices for the rest of the well what do you actually like other countries to follow suit and to use the mail in both inside huge numbers i mean the name concerns that i have about privacy and integrity of the vote now my job to. How anybody else votes i think the male vote system idea in the United States where turnout is 5565 percent the idea was if you said. Not mail balance and made it easier on people that you and increased turnout that turned out not to be sometimes true but it does what you want you do as in california washington and oregon and send everybody your mailbox you can go back on it because it makes voting so much easier now we get it there was a study by a colleague of mine at stanford n. D. Hall that looked at 2 elections in the state of washington which is all mail in and because a new Standing Technology is you can do this 40000000 ballots mailed in they found maybe 14 that could end dead people and they could even be sure about those because of same names etc but only 40 so i think. I think probably mail in voting in the United States does not really dramatically affect anything i do think in the long run that as Computer Technology and face recognition thumbprint we will go to more electronic forms of. Work were not there yet because theyre too easy to act well i dont hear i disagree with that but this is what i get from American Media that the mail in vote seems to have favorite joe biden for the time being at least who has already amassed 17 saturday go into that because democrats why far fared coronavirus and were much more likely to wear face masks etc so if there is a beginning going on and you got a male ballot and you dont want to go outside and be around other people you mail it into the republican strategy was to in fact have their people go to the polls on election day then a day end of the day actually tuesday election or hurt then the vote would look as though are republican because you can count that vote for hastert and the way mail votes are counted in the United States differs dramatically say florida could start. Processing in crimea on october 14th North Carolina can start processing them earlier pennsylvania because they are even starting process until election day so it was part of the republican strategy to how to lead on Election Night as it turns out to him they do not have a lead so that didnt work and now youre getting a little drift which has been true over the past 4 elections i. E. As the mail ballots come in theyre more democrat because more democrats vote from home well joe biden is clearly leading so far but i think we can also see that trumps base has increased he has a stronger showing that he had that back in 2016 and why the that gets you 2nd athlete minorities hispanics i heard that. The black well it is higher for him than it wasnt just 1016. 00 even the jewish vote is higher how would you explain that well i think it is 1st of all its too early or too early to know because when people are going on are going to exit polls that work out that are out on the internet now in either of those polls a better actor because as you might expect i mean not coronavirus as you walk out of the voting booth you might not want to stop and ask somebody for questions well hell wait for a couple of hours in line its just to get your you know anything that you find and answering a few questions ive got exit polls. For example in 2000 when florida was the clarity on the basis of the exit polls 1st or boyish denver go or and what happened was they there were 2 way too many women stop to talk and too many men want by so dont give incomplete you cant just take whoever it is you have to have a sample and if you take too many of women are joining and so in terms of the i. I suppose im coronavirus we have no previous record on that and so those exit polls are under question. Under there under question like the polls were well it embodies and i think it will have to wait and see but i am very interested in the issue of race here because going into this election the democrats i guess that main charge against donald trump was that either he is racist or hes lying abetting racist even though the democrats themselves acting in their electoral politics will make any secret of. Claiming certain athlete groups or certain racial groups as their own in fact that racial or ethnic sensibilities have been instrumental ised and exploited and american politics for quite some time by both parties what does racism even mean in what in day amharic especially when it comes to politics well clear i mean you said well 1st of all you said trump is basically quite a bit better i mean there are more votes turned out but theres going to going to be granted interested hes going to 16. 00 to 20. 00 tony jump one and running 60 who looks very much like hes not going to win so so whatever the turnout was he may have got more turnout but he is losing this time so 2820 is a replay of 2016 is unfolding this time but it is still past us nicely and perfect benylin people voted for him so that Conference Im going through but it latches are about winning or losing and so he may not have names yet from iran and women thats a great thing but if i want to lose and you want to call out a victory right but from a politicians perspectives you run and you lose i do trust people are are happier now than they were 26 im not denying that his vote is there but if he lost this time thats different and the same thing is in regard to race i dont think we know yet but last. Overwhelmingly voted for democrats it may have been 2 or 3 points higher among black male structural and it had been 26 c. But we dont know for sure because theres a lot of we havent counted all a vote yet and the 2nd thing in regard to the hispanic vote it does learn why they feel hispanic vote are issues you just look like is more pro trump good jewish vote may may have i dont know where youre getting those numbers thats an exit poll and the number of Jewish Voters is a start through 4 percent the United States its hard to pull down polls yours or hers accurately unless youre overshoot i think there are some indications and i guess we have will have to confirm them later that. Some non wides dont consider donald trump a racist in fact you know i once used to be a student in the United States i started in kansas which overwhelmingly voted for trump i think with a 15 percent margin and you know i talked to a lot of my friends there are a lot of dissent hardworking people who had to hide that political preferences specifically because of that fears of being outed as racist as and in a focus and i know for a fact that they are not you know because ana for i know myself and i had the interactions but do you think thats going to change in an average of 4 years do your job we are trying to choose a state for years and years on the republicans are republicans he changes are not democrats where theres about 30 democrats i dont doubt are belief well i think there are many many studies supporting my claim that many people who voted for some or other reason for dont tromp celt. Secretive about that in fact i mean there is a great effort on the part of polling agencies to gather those. Local shy voters out specifically because they are stigmatised. Problem playground we asked yet there are state occasions it goes both ways if you go we asked the following question we said where your neighbors be surprised by how youre going to vote. And we did find some 1011 percent of trump voters said their neighbors would be surprised but we found counter santa biden voters saying their neighbors would be surprised and guess what was related to you lived in a rural area and you are abiding by order your neighbor would be surprised if you live in an urban area and your truck over your neighbors at least. So i dont it cuts both ways well professor brady we have to take a short break right now but maybe well be back in just a few moments they chant. Bite he claims victory but what about those who voted for trump will they say now not my president and is your facing another wave of terrorism is neil liberal ideology showing signs of exhaustion. You know personal soup wolf wheres. Your. W clubbable was you sure come who keep. Borders doesnt really matter thats the point of been moved by. You think of that when you discuss all of those who do just about because those dollars could be game we will see in the movie it is with the weve seen the whole business but its the most insidious some of put it in yes please come on and use the im. The 20th century was thing in order of revolution the Great Depression and world war was the 21st century of mental illness. Those arent my words thats what surfaced some psychiatry to tell us the only question is should we accept it as a fact. Is youll be a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safer. Tyson nation will community. Are you going the right way or are you being led to some. Degree. What is true what is right. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or remain in the shallows. Welcome back to worlds apart david brady a professor of Political Science and literature values at Stanford University as senior fellow at the Hoover Institution professor brady just before the break ever asking your questions about racism and how its been instrumental lies and politics and then the reason why focus on that so much is because i think that its become a convenient way for some american politicians especially you know where globalist leaning joe boyd and one conversation about the economy and the purpose of the state because in most countries around the world putting your country 1st is not a controversial proposition thats in fact considered to be the main purpose to all of the government. Do you think travelers have ever reason to such prominence if at Pearl National and to globalist sentiments were given fair in presentation in american politics during the previous election cycles thats its way beyond my pay grade i dont theres no evidence other than anecdotal evidence that you might cite here and there i know of no studies. That went either corroborate that or disprove it if trump leaves the white house come 2021 do you think he strand of politics not in style but in substance representing the concerns ofa rowel or suburban voters do you think that kind of politics thats trend of politics will have to remain and do you what do you think will represent it ok now or not its a great question so. I think its probably the most important question to ask about the election. Theres a problem with race the United States obviously but it is true though as there are 7 voters in the midwest and other places. Who have due to trade International Trade and globalization have lost their jobs and they have moved from the Democratic Party because they feel the Democratic Party abandoned many of them voted for obama trice because he said he was going to change things and then when they didnt change they moved to and so thats thats like my hometown my own towns one of those gangs yelling i have town you know how a lot of Industrial Work and father good job in a factory and support his family and those jobs are gone so that is a problem and i agree that you sorry i misunderstood your question i agree with you that donald trump donald trump much of downtime support d comes from that white males where high school or less education so if hed leave the white house down what happens to the Republican Party which has now changed well i think that republicans will try. They will summer i think that will be exceedingly difficult because trump is sui generous way and he struck me very its very hard to duplicate him so theres going to be that element in american politics floating around there and if the democrats get in and push too hard to politics of the left and neglect those people the ones you were just talking about and dont deal with them then thats a very bad thing you have you dont press cant talk about those people as clinton did the corals whereas barack obama now i do believe in guns and god they cant be treated that way otherwise theyre a session of the vote is going to be very upset unhappy and floating around election election so i think what happens to them is absolutely crucial and there will be a fight among republicans 1st place in the melee or democrats to see who can pick them up and. Drop trump but was uniquely able to do that hes did it usually described as unique but i want a few that big of a genius because you know as i was preparing for this conversation i came across every cent gallup hall which essentially suggested that while the majority of respondents find joe biden more appealing on that personal level theyre far more in tune with trauma or when it comes to Economic Policy and i have an impression that the democrats all the way through are sort of puzzling why people of voting for trump given his moral transgressions they put so much emphasis on his moral. Character rather than understanding that you know they damn merican electorate is behaving as it always has been behaving that is voting on the economy and thats actually the clintons message. Its all about the economists if it hasnt done a lot trying to crack that i think i think youre right not analysis when we look at the we ran sophisticated algorithms and evidence on this data we found out what we see on the coronavirus did hurt from obviously but over time peoples concerns grew about the economy and the economy and trump was seen as better for the economy than biden was and that it did in fact make the election closer and not the blue wave that was predicted and i think in large part it was it was because of the economy and by the way the same gallup poll found that despite call it 19 and all the losses associated with it then majority of respondents believe that they are now so better off than 4 years ago this is Pretty Amazing given that you know the poll that was taken after the it below downs you know we we hired as i was astounded by we did economist hugo coal which i have a deal where. We found the same thing it was i found a surge that there was 4150 percent said theyre better off now than they were 4 years ago so same same basic point. I havent had time to go back and look at that it was the case it was more republicans that said that but i havent i havent been able to go back and look but my guess is if i express hard on that. You know it will be those former democrats trump republicans midwestern states would be my guess and thats something were going to look at. The since. March and the last 2 days were several letters so i think youre probably are youre right on that the economy of the and the economy is an issue came up and drove virus struck down and thats also why the election so much closer now joe biden positioned himself as the back to normality kind of candidate but when you look at his social and economic Problems Program hes quite bold if not to say radical but at least by the americans and its not by the standards of lets say euro but what he proposes is pretty. People fund Many Americans and i mean closing oil and gas industry by 2035 College Education for low income kids x. Standing for the full care act do you think he can deliver on all those points if youre really back to the same all kind of candidate or is he actually proposing something that america has never yet seen before. Nother good question i think he cant deliver on that you know the reason he cant one of the reasons he is so appealing one night he had a Democratic Senate and the market was quite worried because the bush policies too far left and and my view is if they push those things too far out of our tree too as medicare for all. Then what would have happened is 2022 would have been like 20 sand where obama lost 67 seats in the house all of 2022 would have been worse for the democrats but with a Republican Senate is not goin