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So im saying that russian soldiers and all using some equipment, they didnt even have 3 months ago. Many more details about the online, the website of course r t dot com, but telegram are also on telegram odyssey. The. The hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. John peter lavelle, nato is made it clear in teams. Its ukraine. Proxy war against russia as ex, essential. As such, russia to cease the conflict as ex essential it could not be otherwise. There will be no negotiated end to this conflict. One side will lose the smart money is not on fighting for nathan. The cross hatching natos fate. Im joined by my guess. Lucas gauge in brick. Hes a marine veteran author and philosopher in salt lake city. We have david pine. He is Deputy Director of National Operations for the task force on national and homeland security. And in geneva we crossed to eat at home. He is a swift journalist, writer, and politician, alright, prospect roles and effects. That means you can jump anytime you want. And i always appreciate, lets go to uh, break 1st. Lucas. Uh, theres a lot of things in play. Theres a lot of moving pieces here in the last new cycle. Zalinski still determined to retake crime me. Uh, we have the uh, billing this summit with the nato gathering in about 10 days time. And we have this prospect of a false flag being mentioned intentionally into the media. Is lot of scare mongering involved here co and one more thing the counter offensive in ukraine is not going is, is scheduled no surprise there. Whats the lay of the land, my friend, what do you see here . Go ahead. Well, i see that the russians are still doing what they are doing tactically, taking their time. Theyre not trying to put themselves in a meat grinder. And ukraine is doing the exact opposite, and theyre being pressured by nato and washington to go in full force. And as you mentioned, its not working out that well, but they have to sell the story that are going well and people arent really buying it. I see more and more people question the narrative. And, you know, ukraine has been getting very desperate doing acts of terrorism stretching back since the beginning of the war from the bombing of the bridge assessing the area davina. Now that the damn being flooded. I mean, all these things, its not assigned if someone winning the war. So russians are doing the great that theyre doing very well on the battlefield there. Ive heard people say 7 to one killed death ratios with the ukrainians with losing 7 people, one russian. So its not looking good for them and i think that the russians will went out this war just how many people before the negotiations, how many lives are lost before they sit down and actually talk peace. Thats really the question. I absolutely agree, and i an on the back of that, i would suggest that everyone go to sub stack and read John Mearsheimer slay dismissive, which is a basically reflection of lucas is lots and mine. Let me go to d. N a in geneva. We keep hearing about these different scenarios about negotiations that the ukrainians can we conquer a certain amount of land, cutting off the land bridge to you could cry me a uh theyll have a better spot at the negotiating table. But theres, theres something wrong with that assumption. What, why would russia even sit down and negotiate and table at this point . Go ahead in geneva. Yes, i dont think that the, the russia is, is now ready for on the go shelves, because for sure we have Long Distance thats. Its exactly the existence of the fact. Because if they go now for negotiation dual anywhere we continue because of quite a. Yeah, its really not acceptable, but the question is charles e, as the said theyre already doing to uh to do to, to may call on to the work on crap. Nothing to be done by the time. Yeah. So far washer, its not the time to negotiate. They can negotiate only if the recording is ready, the next to be a member of may 2, which is not the case. No, and no destroyer, where to go to you. As long as i married can scrunchy that russia is of the type fall there. That the gym i mean in the world. Well thats, thats exactly the point. Im glad you mentioned that because david, this is, you know, its, its not what you crane wants. I mean, we can listen to whats a wednesday. The is a panhandler. He just wants money and he wants prestige that he wants a wants to pump up, is a go fine or play, and people in the west, the want to do that. But david, its not what ukraine wants. Its what washington wants. Okay. And what washington wants is a strategic defeat of russia. Well, russia is not going to go along with that. And you know what in between time and in the middle is ukraine being grinded into dust . David . Yeah, so true. You know, the, the dirty secret i guess, or the secret that the western media refuses to admit is that, uh, you know, of course, russian beta ukraine. I do so after being provoked by, uh, buying the nato. But uh, putting this uh, these terms on the table since day 2 more ive been covering that in the National Interest and uh, my real wars of stack websites and most recently of september of following the next ation of uh for you probably know lost by the Russian Federation of the russia essentially stated that it is a cheap to all of its uh, nearly all of its objectives. And the remaining objectives can be obtained through a piece that goes with the on to go to the steel. And that offers the table since september, so rushes really been the side has been trying to end the war and the world would have ended it for us. You had his way back in march, march. 31st, of course has went out to the peace deal. Was signed between uh, russian ukraine which is great and then ended up completely ranking on after it was pushed to do so by the, by the ministration. And then Prime Minister of the you k worst johnson. So that would save the lives of brassel, 150000. 00 or more e radians also soldiers and civilians. And i do agree with you with lucas that you know, be pretty counter offensive. It has been going very badly with ukraine suffering, the 71 casualties, and treaty one overall more than russia during the war. So this, lori is gonna end it. Were going to do a huge piece that will make the sooner we do it, the better russia, you know, and the key i think is to uh, conclude a free and style pharmacist agreement and, and the warrant gets it for one control. Yeah, well you know, ive come across that, so im going to look into your come across, this is the korean analogy. Is that the problem with using it in this case here is that the major powers all agreed to the, to the arm assessed in, in, on the korean peninsula. I dont see, i dont see any reason world row in the world by russia has to compromise on anything. We had the minutes process. Ok. We already know what the negotiating position of the west is, is to lie. Lucas, and thats correct. And the screen is, were violated, so the russians have no reason to trust the west at all. They have to win completely in this war. And unfortunately, thats gonna take more lights on the creating. And so, i mean, of course the russians are losing as well, but not as many people as the ukrainian side. And its just a tragedy to see this unfold because it is the west pushing the ukrainians into the me credit. They dont care about your grand. Ive said it since ive comments in the beginning, this war along the guy said theyre just using his cannon fodder because they want to, we can russian with sanctions in this war and everything. Its backfire. And peter, nothing has worked at his strength and brushes economy. Its a strength of the alliance with china and other countries, and to show the world that the western hedge of monique is collapsing, nobody trust america anymore. Nobody trusts made or people question why didnt even have nato at this point. Its only causing problems and you know, people are saying that the premiums wanna join, they dont, they dont even have to join at this point because its already that the west is acting as if theyre already part of nato. So there are hardy putting troops on the ground. Busy scenario from several countries, not just ukraine, fight a rush at every one fighting russia. Yet again, im so glad. Lucas brought that up because defacto ukraine is already a member of nato. But without the article 5 guaranteed, i mean, the washington must be popping champagne bottles every day. So the payments are willing to die, but we dont have to protect them. Thats is amazing. And the arms about producers are making tons of money. I mean, this is the, the best possible outcome because the, the usaa is no obligation other than to watch, you know, the ukraine grind itself into, into ashes. Its remarkable that theyve been able to get an elite and ukraine to go along with this. And even more remarkable, gentleman, is it, youre a goes, is being led by the nose by washington, by a guy that is comatose in the white house. Go ahead and geneva. Yeah. Yeah. Youre the babies that nobody cares about to credit him. Because americans dont care about increasing that need to doesnt get to then even the quin yang goes one that doesnt care about this one citizen because those events keys are ready to fight going to the last queen and so yeah, so nobody can spend duration. They have no reason to care about good credit. Yes. Yeah. Ready to fight against the last 3. Go to recall. Quite me. Yeah. And done by us, which rush does on reset or that the homepage that for good reasons. Because the release of direction speaking because of the boss and also quietly our primary tools invited you 1014 back to the russian speaking people. And as the harsh. Im from the boss. Really a tech to buy the or inquiring and go home at the cute. There were called 14000 people refuse in their last year. So the, for the rush of the have to but that, thats also a reason why russian them to be in the, in the new, when you chose to protect the ethnic and russia speaking people the best. Dont forget it and know yes. Later, later we probably, uh, introducing us uh, the next the, during the next summit there were probably give a huge and even higher commitment to praying for fighting to do last my last the big g, but david mailed him a lot of things. I have no doubt about that, but david, but david, they will not keep the membership. David, go ahead. Yes, absolutely correct. You know, its a, its an open secret that youve created. Well, never joined data. I mean, certainly as a factory data member, but theres never been any chance for the crated joint data for many reasons. So france and germany beach of it long ago, back in 2008 until recently they helped the same position. Francis recently come around the other side of a turkey and hungry would also join germany and in between the membership at any point, even if the war was over. And it also is a requirement of nato membership that a country need to ask for approval will not have any territory dispute on any 4 groups occupying in spiritual group. And that can only be achieved with the by and praying formally seed in all uh, territory interruption control to russia. So thats the only prospect the i agree with you that for a very technical legal point of view. But i, i, i dont put it past nato breaking its own rules, but your other reasoning is actually spot on. Gentlemen, im going to jump in here. Were gonna go to a hard break. And after that hard break, well continue our discussion on natos fate. Stay with our team, the the, as soon as 2060 numerous monuments to serve you as soldiers in poland, ukraine and the Baltic States have been destroyed, all vandalize fish their stuff, but it must be the most of them. Are you what . Any muscle or even some others could i ask if i dont think so. Thats the most on that its, its the Police Government denies the rule of soviet sonya is in the victory of a naziism and is it raising historical memories of world war 2 . Is the 40 piece from your store, although it did seem to know so we regimes the trustees would remain think since peoples consciousness forever. But as long as russell phobia is profitable and brings dividends, you are willing to have a to rewrite the cost for us to uh, take up the provides. I need to see things because fox do, i need to re welcome back across the dock. Were all things are considered. Im peter in the mail. To remind you, were discussing nato state the. Okay, lets go back to look is the, the thing thats making the headlines right now and i think its a intentional war. Mongering is the possibility of a false flag. Of course, the narrative is the russians for some reason will damage or bomb a Nuclear Power plant in its own possession. I cant really understand the logic of it, and its never explained in the mainstream media. But when i hear talk of that, i understand a couple of things. Nato is losing. Im not going to say ukraine, because this is natos war now. So nato is losing. Okay. And its getting desperate. I think you probably heard of Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal talking about is a Senate Resolution that if any kind of new killer action is happens at that plant, it would be a trigger. A article 5 we action by nato remarkably blumenthal. So this is, you know, this, this is not a move out of desperation or panic. Well then why did he will use the words desperation and panic . Ok. It shows to me that they are moving up the escalation latter. Your thoughts, lucas . Yes. Anyones going to do a false flag, its going to be nato and the ukrainians, or some other people doing it like north strain pipeline. You know, all these other things that i mentioned this as a nation of their duty during the bombing of the crimea bridge. This is all, this is a sign of someone losing a war. The russians are not doing these kinds of things are not assassinating. People are not sabotaging anything. Like i mentioned the dan before. So if theres a false flag, its been a 100 percent p. Nato and its allies, you know, and thats obvious to everyone who understands how the script is played. Its always that way, you know, the United States or its alice and say, dont cross this red line. And then suddenly its crossed by the people that theyre paying, whether it be the jihadists and syria, or is another country. Its always the same set up and it works all the time. But people are starting to see that this is come on. This is, makes no sense of what with the russians do this. They wasnt just like they didnt bomb word stream to. Well, you a, i mean im glad that lucas brought it up because the scenario that we had with um, uh, the use of chemical alleged the use of a dirty bomb and syria. This is exactly the same thing that theyre trying to convince get and its warmer and a new crane. Theyre talking about it. I think its more of a ploy by the others. Zalinski res, seem to mobilize Public Opinion as a morgue goes on. And, and of course it is this that terrified the population in that country and further afield. I dont understand why as im kind of Nuclear Reaction with within the wind blow and go east and not only to the west, that doesnt make any sense here. But these people have not been making sense for a very long time. Nato is nato is very existence at stake right now. Its put all of its eggs in one basket. Yes, you know, we have to understand that its this type of deal. The shop can oh, you know, and if you look as, since the stopped in got peaceful every 2 months, you have a big event laptop such as a workshop. I found an old stream that goes all that and so on. You know, go to product to shop in the Country Convenience in the western countries. The fable foster bought into wal mad girls. So thats fine. But she wasnt going steps to do zacko or joe. Im glad to follow up that can be used as such to create such a shot. You know the 2 pro hawk. Oh, the big dresser box. Oh, for the queen. Especially neutral question. Um it is losing on the road, which is the case seems to be the name of discount or price you. So in my view is not possible to do that. So if i strike attacking just to follow up on the 2nd was that can happen. Uh, due to this, we have to do to come see dr. Do. The narrative is very important for the rest of the course of the, the, the tech from tech to do the as good as the direct tv, the dish information role as those to be kept in the west that they need to do so thought id, but such a short events. Yeah, david, i mean, in my introduction i talked about how business didnt turned into an existential war for both sides, but there was a craving choice on the part of nato. Its never been explained to western publics what the Strategic Value is of ukraine. It hadnt been