This bravado in breo, and that would be enough, i would say no, no, no, america would need to know specifics. And whats the goal . And we would have remembered peter the days of vietnam and, and were not going to fight again because of no, it, it goes to show you yet against that anything can be packaged. And if you provide as little as possible, but make sure you utilize also the social media platforms to promote things like flags and waving and anything that is either anti russian or as you put in orange, you throw that mixture in and you werent guaranteed complete and total pavlovian obeisance, and thats what were getting, natalie and elizabeth, and of course were all aware of the incident that happened in the canadian parliament. The celebration thatd be ukrainian nazi. And in, in parliament they stood up like seals in clouds. Okay. I mean these are supposed to be part of them and terry and okay, this is one of the most embarrassing fool pods ive ever seen in my life. Though i beginning to be convinced that it was actually intentional because they are trying to rewrite history and theyre using this guy in the, in taxis to, to do it. Well, what were your thoughts on that . Because this, this was, i cant believe no one knew what would they were doing. Natalie wright, this idea that russia did not fight on the same side, allied forces seems to be completely lost in the context. So if youre talking about that, this man for the ss, thoughts against russia, you would have to know then that russia and america, and canada, and the west and western europe were all on the same site. So you could replace that and say, this man actually fought against canada, this man fight against the United States. Would they still stand up or are they even listening . And so its so confusing to think about. Are they ignorant or are they sheep . And i cannot answer for that at this point. I, i just wonder, is it that the west has done such a great job with propaganda . That we have a good guy, a good guy in zalinski. And we were successful at painting him as this sort of, i dont know, you know, useful, right along side car to the trump administration, scandal of the zalinski call. So already we thought like, oh, that poor guy, he would just drag through the mind, right. And then he pops back up again as this here, when it just proves how useful you can be you or how useful it is to have a good guy. And a bad guy. And zalinski right now is being used as the personification of west. Well, well, definitely let, lets be that i agree with you, but lets be clear. I mean, hes cutting to nice paycheck for doing it as well. Okay. All right, well i, im not talking at all about his intentions. You know, you would think that somebody with maybe a bit more morals would say, i cant be used to drag in an innocent men to their death anymore. Well, i, well, im, i dont want, i want, i want to have to, i want to get that the intentionality here, because i think it all has to do with actually money. And anthony to i, what, what i think is, is very interesting. Is this event in canada, and then zalinski goes around and explains what the western canon is, is if he knows me where i live, you know, ive been in this country russian for 25 years. I remember zelinski his true calling a comedian, playing a piano without any clothes on. Okay. And now hes been reinvented as the new churchill, which is really quite extraordinary. Thats why its all a marketing deal. Go ahead, anthony. Or what . Yeah. So i mean, hes being picked out see how best of all, but hes being are pretty, youre not set a supply. It is called saddam is i create for these being sold to days. Um and they said trust again. I was looking i, they are about the door a pipe is risk for our availability. We are trying to try and see what another cause uh is allowed to stay under couple of his colleagues for the failed as having of sure, well, um, found loose and companies uh, in 2nd for america, by the use of this. How long . Um from uh, even live there are very big oil lease craving obligation. Theres a misappropriation of money. Um he still seems to get away with it because the media and the people who control media have got the confidence i think right . Good j while are the very want for should lazy when there is saw things for fade. So already weve, weve seen what happened with the canadian paulman here. Nice. Right . The industry appraisal allows us to see how much they could get. So why do we have . Yeah, but it has a shirt and very, very is somewhat position to this whole. So theres that. Oh yeah, i think ill also have to general public and ive also progressed in countries a guessing entirely if i talked with visual but they got married boys, theres very little media, which gives them a voice, a tool because even the traditional uh, so the impact your take try channels uh seems to be controlled by cable vested interest as well. But eventually i think the voice is, will get out. And uh, already best division in uh, some of the Eastern European countries, right. Kind of is their cyber full out woods. Are you clean and uh you can see about, so let me see go over confident page, but see can god around the wild side or the rooms in sales people are you guys are using uh, whos on bus . So there was a been installing wimbledon credit. Uh huh. So for former principals, i would say its getting to be under jake and uh, but then you see the people, the pay my offices, look at people i selected, stay as dispensable. So what was these prices pots be somebody else . I could try. Yeah. All right, lets, lets, lets recall, uh, i mean, how soft, gosh, really, what do you see right now . Hes languishing in prison. Okay. I want, why go, wheres he . Oh, he went back to his mothers basement. Okay. This happens all the time. Like, 0, one of the things thats very troubling here is that the landscape signed up to basically cv. And i elation of this entire country. I mean, you gotta be paid a lot of money to do that because i thats the only explanation i have is the gripped. Okay, you take the grip, going as long as you possibly can. Then you get a golden parachute lionel. I dont think that narrative is going to ever make it successfully, at least where i am. You dont want to go back to something that was said. This is about the image. This is about psychology. This is about this man. Again, no question of good versus evil. Apple did big left for right. Good guy, bad guy. I tell people this and they think im kidding. If you will have, if, if this is the last, the war a suit versus his t shirt. If he, if, if this were played in any other way going back, hearkening back to the romantic days of cash grow, going back to the idea of, of a country that didnt just murky thing called history. You know, i, i cannot tell you how today i am still bombarded with people on the right, especially right now who are using words like im in his left is marxist, a kind of communist a and confusing that with fascism or what and, and theres this, theres this hodge podge just kind of a slum, go in all the images. Theres also somebody that i tell people right now in our country, theres a big debate about the Congress Closing down and funding. And what about Student Loans . And im telling you your student loan that its in ukraine. And once i tell people im say, do you understand theres not been one hiccup . Not one second of anything. You dont even know when the money is going. Theres no audit. This is your money on the line like but the line or theres no audit when you go to natalie, real quick here. But youre, im glad you brought up the, the government shut down. Even if it does shut down, which it will. Its kabuki theater here. But the payments, the ukraine will not be interrupted. Natalie. Yes, but i want to address what you said about this. So lensky is an actor and zelinski is making money and there is corruption. And those things kind of slip through the cracks of american media. They sort of are past off as if theyre extremist pacifism, right . What i think people dont understand, and really, i think, you know, for me, that looks beyond the media narrative. But what are the facts is that the lensky allowed the people of the don boss to be attacked for 10 years . He ordered extra attacks on the don boss in 20212022 was preparing to attack crimea. And that the people there asked for russian protection and voted to become a part of russia. Those things are undeniable. They are not being presented to the west. And the rest of it is being packaged as extremist or passive as propaganda. And thats the thing that makes me so crazy is that there are facts there. So when you put zalinski on your social media or a ukrainian slide as your profile, what your saying is that i dont know, i dont care or i dont understand that this government has been firing and attacking civilians and then escalated a war in order to get natos attention and it worked as Proof Positive of your social media profile. Yes, yes. And it is a tacit acceptance of it forevermore that none of us ever voted for. Alright, im going to jump in here. Were going to go to a short break. And after that short, bracewell continue word, assess discussion on zelinski state with the the russian states. Never as tight as im one of the most sense Community Best in most all sense. And the, the same assistance must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russians cruising and split the ortiz phone next. Even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. For what question did you say they would put you on the p a session of a lot right now moving up, i give a shit a position associated with the local church. So certificate of boulevard too much and watch cool lizards was a job project. So to do that in the cause of the room and attend the want to know how that of all our other choose. Control the some of the stuff i need for you press that yesterday, which is kind of charlotte. Im with a number or something of something, but its coming up soon. Im just working on that. I will start following charter decrypt daughter. Get to a new new north Sheriff Service in law school, my mom and it says total k, i believe this looks like you did you validate the the the welcome next across. Ok, were all things are considered computer lavelle true manual discussing zalinski the. Okay, lets go back to anthony here. Um bill bill crystal, the arch neil con. You dont have to say g o p or democrat. Hes just a neo con. Hell go with uh, you know, hell go with it. Whatever. Paymaster, here the g o. P is in the name of the g o. P. Bill kristol is going to be promoting a, a commercial a goes along the lines when american arms. When america arms ukraine, we get a lot for a little. Essentially war is good. This is a campaign to kick in the forever war. I dont know how many of my guess or audience saw josh holly after a briefing, and he said the quiet part out loud. This plan is to keep the world going on forever. Anthony. Go ahead. Well, it is terrible who would have to say it sold the very suspect. So im our americas giving bobby for money, because like i said, you have lots of destruction of russia. Russian forces without spending lives of americans Service People across the street. And i pass those inside of a trade because a number of americans Service People have to. All right, thats uh, its a little bit and catch on the, on the right. But its, its not cable was the policy and after understand when drivers support. But thats how the guys free this idea sitting my desk on this phone. But then theres a sort of side, right . Yeah, theres not a mandate for a, for apple and all of the account, trees and rolls are at miss our toll free chairs supply and all this. And thats talks with us with movie 42nd 1000000000. The site is all mine country. Do you guys certainly points tree 1000000000 and ill send a loss of all the money which is different and see you they the crime bought sun is not in mine very well. So i have a for this, and they may have the 2 sided for the referendum in crime. At the top i see 3 pos, all of a sudden youre crying, but sorry to say become pause. I brought a shot by you side by not recognizable penguins even gave elections in the ukraine. Good price by the name im was im glad you brought that up because i think that the vote and the don bass inclined me. It were more valid. The referendum were more valid than the 2020 election, but now im getting ahead of it myself. Okay, thats a different topic. Litle its, its very into. Im glad that anthony brought it up because there is will, because of zalinski says there is martial law in ukraine. They cant have elections. Well, i mean, the United States had elections in afghanistan in the rack during a, a war. Uh so, and United States had an election in at 1864. 00 during the war. But so it was turned around say, well, but if you give me 5000000000. 00 by 1000000000. 00, maybe well think about it here. I mean, the graft is just outrages, lionel. Id be thinking what we are seeing right now if i could take, and im sorry to keep saying this, but this, the average american and even even those people who fancy themselves as being politically un news as to lets say the fox news contingent or anybody and if i gave them a device and every time anything that we mention, a name, a city, a dunbar, as the soleski, if ever any of this sounds remotely familiar, all they had to do was just push it button. You would see this flat line. What we are doing is this is international, political theater discussion. This has no basis. This would not even be recognizable in most areas on most ations, at most platforms here where i am. Thats the problem. This is fantastic. I thoroughly enjoy mentioning and talking about this. But this has no audience here and, and im trying to figure out why is it, is it because of the complexity . No. Is it because of the, the subject matter is its foreign. It is, is it history . Is it the School System . I dont know what it is this, this insatiable in curiosity, this level of detachment, this idea that give me a punch drunk something i to look at almost like a name brand good or evil. Got it. Im over here now. You know, how much time were talking in this country about hunter biden. Do, do you know this, this is the, this is the most you want to think about this laptop or whatever it is. I cannot believe this. This is a wall to wall and im thinking its a distraction. Well, were like, oh light. Oh, if its really quite hilarious. Actually. I Hillary Clinton so you know, we are, it was elizabeth warren, all roads lead to russia. Actually. They hauled into pretty. Wed see a good part of russia gate was invented in ukraine. Ok. I mean that, that. Ok. Natalie. Whats, whats really interesting is itd be st. Zalinski likes to go around the world stage. And so im kind of celebrity. But his poll numbers are really bad in ukraine because of corruption because corruption is, i mean, it was always there, but its really ramp and right now, i mean, and, and then his wife, i dont know, you know, what was all about that he might not run or, i dont think there will be an election because i think he wants to stay president preparatory to go ahead. Natalie. Yes, but the polls 1st and lensky were really low, even before the conflict. So this is not new. We know that this conflict has caused him politically quite a bit which and i can imagine as a mother and a wife, anything more terrifying than thinking that my family could be could scripted into a war. And i cannot vote out the leaders for a different outcome. You cannot vote in a piece leading leader, you cant. And so when they call you up, youve got to goes got to just go to die. And so the idea that zalinski may win or lose based on this war is fatuous, because he already was losing, which may be why he escalated the conflict by ordering the attacks. And i believe is lionel who just spoke about or was it, im sorry, the other guest who spoke about how the United States, they just dont know where its happening. They dont have any idea. They think the words been and key of all along. They think that everyone throughout all of ukraine has been being bombed. They dont understand where the map of these 3 regions are, how they connect to odessa. You. Uh, crimea. They because the media will not show the maps. This is one thing that i just, i check it over as a News Reporter is that they dont show the maps that would, that you dont see that the line of conflict has not moved fairly a centimeter throughout this chapter. And were only told the counter offensive through through headline youre absolutely right, the anthony. I mean, its one of the things i think weve all noticed in the last few weeks, you know, and then we had, you know, secretaries they blanket or i should call them books blitzkrieg. Now, what is that . You know, ukraine is winning. Ukraine is winning. And now its russia, it is losing russia a lot, they dont, they dont say winning for the ukrainian side anymore. Theyve shifted that there. And later in the week im going to do a program and how its all the really about china now. Theyve added that on to the narrative. Here we have shifting narratives here, but natalie is, is i right . They never give you any facts that you can, you know, um, grab around. Okay, anthony, go ahead as well as this, or im sorry say in the population of cost going back to the casualties by guy were, were talking about 5 or 600000 d credit and casual phase, which is pretty on the sustainable for the better population. But about sol caps very plots, but more suitable for because basically already democracy presided free media. They try to play style manual for adults track chevy, who crimes. So its like freedom whatsoever. And now theyve sold are outside of the pine se, uh, black truck headphones. So theres nothing left support for tolbert. None of these guys in the Mainstream Media are because it is controlled by di staples who want to want to continue on liaison canada. Theres about 10000000 refugees because a population has gone down from either 40 to about. I see a 1000000 or course the local guys are avoiding signing up for military service because right, David Charles is of them surviving or press the light box. We have a pretty terrible situation. But if you look at the money registry space spent, what can be done for the world in terms of world hunger wants to supplies you name it way were products issac, wold or should i say the west some government surprise ours are just spending money while you know, anthony, its a, its a real pity, big mouth we in hawaii. Its real pity molly. Wasnt in ukraine at the time. Okay. That they probably would be bearing much better line. Oh, i know the by the administration has already said that theyre going to bring invest 40000000. 00 in the pacific initiative. T